Need opinions on GIA 1.5ct transitional

[Eelh77]

Maybe 3rd times a charm!? How do you guys think this one looks?? It’s the top diamond in both hand pics. Thank you!

 

[foxinsox]

It’s got an amazing high crown so should be a good fiery stone. It looks pretty good. How do you feel about it? Have you seen it in person? How will you set it?

 

[sledge]

High crowns are good only when paired with the proper pavilion angles. Unfortunately this is not a very complimentary crown/pavilion angle combo (37/40.6) to get the most fire from a stone.

This is not a stone I would recommend you buy.

Other oddities:

• The stone is VISIBLY out of round, 7.27 x 7.40mm
• Symmetry is not very good
• Girdle is all over the place, extremely thin to slightly thick
  • Potential structural issues on extremely thin areas?
• Borderline deep cut @ 62.5%
• Table is very small @ 52%, although with correct crown/pavilion angles would be very fiery (see Tolk diagram below)
• Star facets only 35%
• Cutlet is not pointed, but rather "small"

As mentioned earlier, Tolk diamond is based on small 53% table, but with a 34.5/40.75 angle combo. Also, in diagrams it shows 0% girdle, which is impossible. You don't want too thick girdle but some is required for proper cutting. Too thin and it causes structural issues.

http://niceice.com/tolkowsky-ideal-cut-diamonds/

 

[crbl999]

Pass on that one. Poorly cut stone. Use this as a cheat sheet.

54-57 table
60-62.4 depth
34-35 crown
40.6-40.9 pavilion
75-80 LGF

You want to make sure the crown and pavilion compliment each other. 35/40.6 or34/40.9.

 

[flyingpig]

First, the AGS chart and HCA are not designed to evaluate trannys. They are for MRBs.
Second, the diamond in question is not a tranny in my book. Plus, I am not a big fan of diamonds with such small table with 40.6 PA. It produces to much contrast.
I personally find a tranny with a bigger table and shorter LGH more desirable
example.
https://www.jewelsbygrace.com/2-25ct-transitional-cut-diamond-gia-j-vs1

While I can understand how one can be attracted to this particular stone, I rather go for a tranny with a larger table and fat arrows, or a well cut MRB. I don't know what the cutter was trying to achieve with this stone. The facet patterns are just unappealing and the culet does not blend in well.

 

[Lovesparklesparle]

First, the AGS chart and HCA are not designed to evaluate trannys. They are for MRBs.
Second, the diamond in question is not a tranny in my book. Plus, I am not a big fan of diamonds with such small table with 40.6 PA. It produces to much contrast.
I personally find a tranny with a bigger table and shorter LGH more desirable
example.
https://www.jewelsbygrace.com/2-25ct-transitional-cut-diamond-gia-j-vs1

While I can understand how one can be attracted to this particular stone, I rather go for a tranny with a larger table and fat arrows, or a well cut MRB. I don't know what the cutter was trying to achieve with this stone. The facet patterns are just unappealing and the culet does not blend in well.

I tend to agree sorry. It doesn’t appeal to my tastes personally.

 

[sledge]

First, the AGS chart and HCA are not designed to evaluate trannys. They are for MRBs.
Second, the diamond in question is not a tranny in my book. Plus, I am not a big fan of diamonds with such small table with 40.6 PA. It produces to much contrast.
I personally find a tranny with a bigger table and shorter LGH more desirable
example.
https://www.jewelsbygrace.com/2-25ct-transitional-cut-diamond-gia-j-vs1

While I can understand how one can be attracted to this particular stone, I rather go for a tranny with a larger table and fat arrows, or a well cut MRB. I don't know what the cutter was trying to achieve with this stone. The facet patterns are just unappealing and the culet does not blend in well.

Sorry for the bad misinterpretation. The GIA certificate provided for review stated "round brilliant", so it seemed applicable.

FYI, the cert for the JBG stone is also attached for comparison. It is much different.

 

[LLJsmom]

I would request an indoor and outdoor video (in sunlight and shade) of the tranny. You just never know.

 

[Eelh77]

Thank you all!! Love the opinions. Don’t want to make a mistake on such an expensive purchase. I’m new to the diamond world so I appreciate every piece of advice and all of your knowledge. I’ll keep looking as most seem to agree that this isn’t a good pick.

 

[mrsgreeneyes]

Sorry for the bad misinterpretation. The GIA certificate provided for review stated "round brilliant", so it seemed applicable.

FYI, the cert for the JBG stone is also attached for comparison. It is much different.

GIA can be quite hilarious in how they categorize old cuts. But yeah, HCA is not going to apply to the oldies.

 

[lovedogs]

If you are looking for a tranny cut, I'd start with JbG. She has some amazing options.

 

[flyingpig]

Some oldies do not meet GIA's definition of circular brilliant or old european brilliant. So, they get graded as MRB.

This particular stone is clearly out of round. It is neither a well cut MRB, tranny or OEC. The culet is weird and there is very little attention in polish and symmetry. As mentioned, the girdle is also too thin. To me it is just a poorly crafted diamond, that is marketed as "oldie" "tranny".

Recently, I saw someone advertised his 95 Chevy Cavalier as "classic" and "vintage".

 

[Lovesparklesparle]

If I were in the market for a transitional it would look something like this.

 

[Lovesparklesparle]

Is your stone from ivy and rose/mydiamondzone?

 

[Lovesparklesparle]

This is for sale on instagram