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hello everyone, i found this diamond and setting on blue nile and wanted to know if it is a good deal or not.

the diamond is ($358):
0.31 CT
Round/Ideal Cut
D Rating on Color
SI2 Rating on Clarity
GIA Certified.

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-d-color-si2-clarity_LD01296213?filter_id=1

the setting is ($325):
18K White Gold
4-Prong

http://www.bluenile.com/solitaire-diamond-engagement-ring-setting_3074?filter_id=1

Adding up to a grand total of $683 for the ring. What does everyone think of it?

Also, i''m really leaning towards buying online, but the only thing that scares me is taking care of the ring. i.e. taking it in for inspection/cleaning every 6 months. Where do all of you guys take your rings to get it inspected/cleaned? Or what if the ring needed to be refinished or re-setted in the future?

thanks in advance!
 
Date: 1/18/2009 9:48:06 AM
Author:Baloney
hello everyone, i found this diamond and setting on blue nile and wanted to know if it is a good deal or not.

the diamond is ($358):
0.31 CT
Round/Ideal Cut
D Rating on Color
SI2 Rating on Clarity
GIA Certified.

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-d-color-si2-clarity_LD01296213?filter_id=1

the setting is ($325):
18K White Gold
4-Prong

http://www.bluenile.com/solitaire-diamond-engagement-ring-setting_3074?filter_id=1

Adding up to a grand total of $683 for the ring. What does everyone think of it?

Also, i''m really leaning towards buying online, but the only thing that scares me is taking care of the ring. i.e. taking it in for inspection/cleaning every 6 months. Where do all of you guys take your rings to get it inspected/cleaned? Or what if the ring needed to be refinished or re-setted in the future?

thanks in advance!
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Hi Baloney,

The table is a bit larger than some we see, but the angles are the important thing, unfortunately I can''t read them on my monitor, would you mind posting the crown and pavilion angles for me please?
 
hmm, it doesnt seem to have the crown/pavilion angles listed. im sorry, im new at this lolz.
 
im sorry Lorelei, after close examination of the GIA report from what i could make out, the Crown angle is 24.0 or 34.0 degrees (not really sure, cant really make it out). the Pavilion angle is 41.0 degrees.
 
thanks shady!

what do you think about this diamond?

im thinking about purchasing this tomorrow ASAP.

if this diamond isnt as good of a deal as it seems, can anyone link me some alternative diamonds?
 
I would personally be a little afraid to buy an SI2 without seeing magnified images of the stone. And Blue Nile stones are not in-house for someone to really look at it while speaking with you. I don''t think you''ll do much better on price, though.

You might want to look at James Allen because I think their prices are sometimes better than BN. Stick to ideal cut and it''ll make the search easier.

Example:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1092303.asp $410 plus $250 setting= $660
 
Date: 1/18/2009 11:19:59 AM
Author: shady71

Date: 1/18/2009 9:52:49 AM
Author: Lorelei

Hi Baloney,

The table is a bit larger than some we see, but the angles are the important thing, unfortunately I can''t read them on my monitor, would you mind posting the crown and pavilion angles for me please?
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Here is the GIA report http://www.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=16998412&weight=0.31
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Shady, thanks!

Baloney, the diamond has a good angle range so it is worth consideration if you don''t mind the larger table. As to the clarity, in that size SI2 could be completely eyeclean so check with BN, tell them your expectations - for example if you don''t want to see any inclusions from any angle at close scrutiny, make sure they know that so they can give you an accurate description.
 
so the only thing that throws this diamond off is the clarity huh? otherwise it would be perfect.
 
Date: 1/18/2009 2:21:26 PM
Author: Baloney
so the only thing that throws this diamond off is the clarity huh? otherwise it would be perfect.
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Not as ideal cut as the ones I listed, but it could be a very nice stone if totally eyeclean.
 
I think I''m going to take my chances. If it turns out to be not as eye clean then I can always just return it right?
 
True about the return policy. You seem to be pretty set on that stone, and it''s not a bad price, so I hope you like it! Otherwise, I would suggest going down in color to get a larger stone. In a well-cut RB, the average person won''t be able to tell the difference between D and G-H when the diamond is mounted (and that''s a conservative estimate). If budget is a concern, I would personally favor getting the largest ideal cut stone you can find within the color and clarity you''re comfortable with. For me (not very color-sensitive), that means I-K in color and SI1-SI2 in clarity if verified eye-clean.

As for inspection/cleaning, I''ve found that local jewelers are generally willing to do it, even for rings that you didn''t buy from them. I guess it''s kind of a courtesy to other jewelers? Who knows, but they usually will do it.
 
Date: 1/18/2009 2:20:53 PM
Author: Lorelei


Date: 1/18/2009 11:19:59 AM
Author: shady71



Date: 1/18/2009 9:52:49 AM
Author: Lorelei

Hi Baloney,

The table is a bit larger than some we see, but the angles are the important thing, unfortunately I can't read them on my monitor, would you mind posting the crown and pavilion angles for me please?
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Here is the GIA report http://www.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=16998412&weight=0.31
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Shady, thanks!

Baloney, the diamond has a good angle range so it is worth consideration if you don't mind the larger table. As to the clarity, in that size SI2 could be completely eyeclean so check with BN, tell them your expectations - for example if you don't want to see any inclusions from any angle at close scrutiny, make sure they know that so they can give you an accurate description.
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even though the table is at 60%, would it make a big difference to an unaided eye since its such a small stone?

i thought that blue nile doesnt have their diamonds on hand o look at?
 
Date: 1/18/2009 3:01:56 PM
Author: Baloney

Date: 1/18/2009 2:20:53 PM
Author: Lorelei



Date: 1/18/2009 11:19:59 AM
Author: shady71




Date: 1/18/2009 9:52:49 AM
Author: Lorelei

Hi Baloney,

The table is a bit larger than some we see, but the angles are the important thing, unfortunately I can''t read them on my monitor, would you mind posting the crown and pavilion angles for me please?
Click to expand...
Here is the GIA report http://www.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=16998412&weight=0.31
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Shady, thanks!

Baloney, the diamond has a good angle range so it is worth consideration if you don''t mind the larger table. As to the clarity, in that size SI2 could be completely eyeclean so check with BN, tell them your expectations - for example if you don''t want to see any inclusions from any angle at close scrutiny, make sure they know that so they can give you an accurate description.
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even though the table is at 60%, would it make a big difference to an unaided eye since its such a small stone?

i thought that blue nile doesnt have their diamonds on hand o look at?
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It could give the diamond a different personality, a larger table can give the illusion that the diamond is a little larger for its weight, however it can be a trade off and you might get less fire with it, but it still could be an attractive diamond. You can read up here more on table size.

http://diamonds.pricescope.com/tablesize.asp

I think what BN do is ask the supplier who has the diamond to check concerning the eyeclean factor on request.
 
Date: 1/18/2009 2:59:10 PM
Author: jstarfireb
True about the return policy. You seem to be pretty set on that stone, and it''s not a bad price, so I hope you like it! Otherwise, I would suggest going down in color to get a larger stone. In a well-cut RB, the average person won''t be able to tell the difference between D and G-H when the diamond is mounted (and that''s a conservative estimate). If budget is a concern, I would personally favor getting the largest ideal cut stone you can find within the color and clarity you''re comfortable with. For me (not very color-sensitive), that means I-K in color and SI1-SI2 in clarity if verified eye-clean.

As for inspection/cleaning, I''ve found that local jewelers are generally willing to do it, even for rings that you didn''t buy from them. I guess it''s kind of a courtesy to other jewelers? Who knows, but they usually will do it.
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yeah i am pretty set on the stone, but i think ill take a look at some larger stones and see what i find. thanks for your input jstar!
 
Date: 1/18/2009 3:19:15 PM
Author: Lorelei

It could give the diamond a different personality, a larger table can give the illusion that the diamond is a little larger for its weight, however it can be a trade off and you might get less fire with it, but it still could be an attractive diamond. You can read up here more on table size.

http://diamonds.pricescope.com/tablesize.asp

I think what BN do is ask the supplier who has the diamond to check concerning the eyeclean factor on request.
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thats a good point lorelei, but i dont think i''d be trading it off.

im just going to call BN and ask them to check if its eyeclean or not, then ill go from there i guess. ill let you know what happens, thanks alot for your help!
 
Date: 1/18/2009 3:31:34 PM
Author: Baloney

Date: 1/18/2009 3:19:15 PM
Author: Lorelei

It could give the diamond a different personality, a larger table can give the illusion that the diamond is a little larger for its weight, however it can be a trade off and you might get less fire with it, but it still could be an attractive diamond. You can read up here more on table size.

http://diamonds.pricescope.com/tablesize.asp

I think what BN do is ask the supplier who has the diamond to check concerning the eyeclean factor on request.
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thats a good point lorelei, but i dont think i''d be trading it off.

im just going to call BN and ask them to check if its eyeclean or not, then ill go from there i guess. ill let you know what happens, thanks alot for your help!
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You are most welcome, let us know how you get on!
 
just got off the phone w/ BN. they said that the diamond has a small inclusion in the center of the diamond. and that i would be noticable with an unaided eye.

the lady also recommended me that i drop down to an F color to raise up the clarity level to at at least a VS2 for engagement ring diamonds.

i found these 2 alternative diamonds. what do you think?

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-g-color-vs2-clarity_LD01450647?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=1\

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-very-good-cut-f-color-vs2-clarity_LD01440285?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=1
 
Date: 1/18/2009 5:33:45 PM
Author: Baloney
just got off the phone w/ BN. they said that the diamond has a small inclusion in the center of the diamond. and that i would be noticable with an unaided eye.

the lady also recommended me that i drop down to an F color to raise up the clarity level to at at least a VS2 for engagement ring diamonds.

i found these 2 alternative diamonds. what do you think?

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-g-color-vs2-clarity_LD01450647?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=1

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-very-good-cut-f-color-vs2-clarity_LD01440285?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=1
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No, neither of these is good. I definitely agree with dropping to G color, though. I''ll take a look at BN if that is the only place you are considering.
 
Date: 1/18/2009 11:09:07 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Best choice, in my opinion:


http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-h-color-vs2-clarity_LD01426755?filter_id=0


Other good choice:


http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-g-color-vs2-clarity_LD01430311?filter_id=0


possible but don''t see the cert:


http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-h-color-vs2-clarity_LD01485454?filter_id=0
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im leaning towards your 2nd choice.

why isnt the G/VS2 diamond that i chose any good?
 
Date: 1/19/2009 2:57:43 AM
Author: Baloney


Date: 1/18/2009 11:09:07 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Best choice, in my opinion:


http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-h-color-vs2-clarity_LD01426755?filter_id=0


Other good choice:


http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-g-color-vs2-clarity_LD01430311?filter_id=0


possible but don't see the cert:


http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-h-color-vs2-clarity_LD01485454?filter_id=0
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im leaning towards your 2nd choice.

why isnt the G/VS2 diamond that i chose any good?
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It has a steeper pavilion angle Baloney, ideally you want between 40.6 or 41 degrees.

Thats a shame about the other diamond but don't worry, your diamond will come along!
 
 
hey diamondseeker! i was just about to purchase the 2nd diamond that you posted for me but i guess it was sold already!! damn! lolz.

can you recommened me another diamond(s)?
 
Date: 1/19/2009 11:06:08 AM
Author: Baloney
Lorelei, how about these diamonds?

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-g-color-vs2-clarity_LD01434373?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=1

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-g-color-vs1-clarity_LD01312833?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=1

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-g-color-vs1-clarity_LD01468172?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=1

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-f-color-vs2-clarity_LD01312982?__fun_frm=i&filter_id=1

i plan on buying today! quick replies are greatly appreciated!
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I think we can do better than these, I will have a hunt around.

Here you go.


http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1193985.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-signature-ideal-cut-h-color-vs2-clarity_LD01435287

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-g-color-vs2-clarity_LD01449881

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-g-color-vs2-clarity_LD01479797

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-g-color-vs2-clarity_LD01436620
 
thanks for your help lorelei!
 
Date: 1/19/2009 11:12:55 AM
Author: Baloney
hey diamondseeker! i was just about to purchase the 2nd diamond that you posted for me but i guess it was sold already!! damn! lolz.

can you recommened me another diamond(s)?
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Unfortunately there are tons of lurkers on here and stones need to be reserved quickly once the recommendations are made.

I'd really recommend going with the first one I posted (the H VS2). H in ideal cut will be very white, and that one was a little larger in diameter than the others. I honestly posted all the G-H VS2's that I thought were close to your budget and were ideal cut stones. If you want to drop to SI1, then I can look again. But if it was me, I'd go with the H VS2 I listed first. My diamonds are H, by the way, and I am very happy with them.

Really, it has an almost perfect cut:

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-ideal-cut-h-color-vs2-clarity_LD01426755?filter_id=0
 
I would buy from an online vendor that will let you upgrade in the future if you want to. Whiteflash, GOG and I think James Allen all have upgrade policies. GL!
 
Date: 1/19/2009 11:20:05 AM
Author: Miss Fortune
I would buy from an online vendor that will let you upgrade in the future if you want to. Whiteflash, GOG and I think James Allen all have upgrade policies. GL!
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I checked WF and GOG for him but their prices were too high on the small stones. I did list some good ones from James Allen that I think were definitely worth considering, but he must only want to deal with BN.
 
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