Need help to ID ring please. And advice on 2 options so far

[BigHenry]

Ok so I am shopping around right now and have a couple options, the second option I will need some help to ID. The first option is a Christopher Designs ring that is 1.1cttw with a .57 center stone. The center is GIA Gcolor si1. It is pretty clean to me looking with a loupe. Pics arent the best but it has the center and smaller ones around it, then a few on the band. Sticker says $6,700 and the guy says he can do it for $4,800. forgot what kind of gold 14k or 18k. Thatt price is without the wedding band

Option 2 is what I am trying to ID if anybody has seen the setting before, it is being sold at a custom jewelery shop but it had some kind of stamping on the inside of the band so I figured it might be common. It looks like a tension ring but there is a little piece under the center stone that holds it all together. The stones on the side are channel set, 3 on each side and some very small ones on the front and back edge of the channel if that makes sense, 14k. Still waiting on full specs of stones but shop said they sell GIA/AGS/ some other ones, and some that aren't certified but the owner is a certified gemologist is what I was told. The picture shows it with a 1/2ct center stone. For a .71Ct center G SI1 would be $4600, or a .89ct H SI1 for $4850. It seems like the price difference should be a little more from what I have researched but again, still waiting to hear more specs of stones.

Thanks for all your help in advance

 

[Christina...]

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I'll take a look around and try to find the setting for you, but first I wanted to mention a few things. It's great that your shopping for GIA and AGS stones, but be sure that your looking at only excellent and ideal cut grades from these two labs. The cut is going to give you the amazing bling! So, the most important characteristic of the diamond is the cut, then personal preference and budget will help you determine the color clarity and size.

There are many jewelers who sell uncerted diamonds and then tell their customers that it's ok because they are graduate gemologists. Being a GG means nothing in this case. A novice can grade a stone, call it whatever they want and sell it as such, so don't fall into this trap. I don't want to suggest that you can't trust this particular jeweler but the fact is, having a diamond graded isn't costly and the value of the diamond increases with the report, so there is usually a reason that they aren't sending for grading and it's probably because they think they can sell it for more without one. However, if you find one that your interested in, you could ask that it be sent for grading and that if it comes back with a similar grade as he indicated that you will purchase the stone and pay for the cost of the report. Keep in mind that it would be normal and likely that the jeweler and the lab will defer by a grade or two and this wouldn't indicate that the jeweler was being dishonest. Just something to keep in mind. OK, now I"m off to try and ID your setting for you.

 

[Christina...]

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Hhhmmm, I really really thought that it was a Steven Kretchmer setting but if it is I'm having trouble locating this particular design.



I remembered seeing this one, so I thought that I would post but it's not as beautiful as the one you posted.
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/contemporary-rings/14k-White-Gold-Three-Stone-Diamond-Ring.html

This is some of Steven Kretchmers work, it's possible that it is his design and it's just not listed here, so if you continue to have trouble locating it, you could call and inquire about it.
http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/jewelry-designers/steven-kretchmer-jewelry/rings/


I'll keep looking though. There are people here that are amazing at locating specific settings so don't give up yet, they will be along.

 

[BigHenry]

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I'll take a look around and try to find the setting for you, but first I wanted to mention a few things. It's great that your shopping for GIA and AGS stones, but be sure that your looking at only excellent and ideal cut grades from these two labs. The cut is going to give you the amazing bling! So, the most important characteristic of the diamond is the cut, then personal preference and budget will help you determine the color clarity and size.

There are many jewelers who sell uncerted diamonds and then tell their customers that it's ok because they are graduate gemologists. Being a GG means nothing in this case. A novice can grade a stone, call it whatever they want and sell it as such, so don't fall into this trap. I don't want to suggest that you can't trust this particular jeweler but the fact is, having a diamond graded isn't costly and the value of the diamond increases with the report, so there is usually a reason that they aren't sending for grading and it's probably because they think they can sell it for more without one. However, if you find one that your interested in, you could ask that it be sent for grading and that if it comes back with a similar grade as he indicated that you will purchase the stone and pay for the cost of the report. Keep in mind that it would be normal and likely that the jeweler and the lab will defer by a grade or two and this wouldn't indicate that the jeweler was being dishonest. Just something to keep in mind. OK, now I"m off to try and ID your setting for you.

Thanks for all the good info One thing that I thought was strange is that they said they look at the color first and then the cut but the diamonds mentioned were H/G color. He did measure a few stones when I was there, The 1/2ct stone was about 5.2mm and a .89ct that was about 6.2mm and the .71 was around 5.8mm. We saw loose stones at a mall store that were .72 and 5.3mm. Then again I am no expert but compared to what I have seen this shops stones looked way bigger than the mall stores for the weight.
The bottom setting actually has a small circle of metal directly under the diamond that connects everything so it isn't just empty under there like regular tension rings I've seen. He said the stone is more secure that way.

They do custom stuff there, he said they have the machines in back that make the molds and all of that so it could be possible that he designed it and he stamped it with something, I should have remembered what it said. Im just trying to compare to see if it is a good price I guess.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

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Are these two styles that your girlfriend has told you that she loves? Because these are two VERY different styles and I think a girl that loves one of them probably will intensely dislike the other!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

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Here is a stone to compare once you get specs on the stones you are looking at. This one is .57 G SI1 and ideal cut for $1757.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2680232.htm

And here are some halo settings to compare with #1:

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/styles/1?category=ER&style=Halo

 

[BigHenry]

Are these two styles that your girlfriend has told you that she loves? Because these are two VERY different styles and I think a girl that loves one of them probably will intensely dislike the other!

the first one she really liked, then she really liked one at Jared but I didn't want anything from there. Then she saw the last one and fell in love with it. She would probably fall in love with at least one ring at any store but the second one is how she describes her dream ring. The main thing with the first one I guess is if Christopher designs is any good or not.
Will probably end up going with the second one if we can get the stone lined up. Hopefully I will hear back from him tomorrow.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

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If she hasn't looked at many rings yet, I would worry just a little about buying that second one. I think there are SO many more choices when you look at ring designs online such as on that Gabriel and Co site. Also, this thread starting with the most recent posts and going backwards would be a great thing for her to look through. I am just afraid particularly about the second ring that the style may not be one that is timeless.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-forum-engagement-ring-folder-eye-candy.5429/page-261']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-forum-engagement-ring-folder-eye-candy.5429/page-261[/URL]

 

[Gypsy]

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I would have the Christopher Designs one custom made with a few tweaks. BGD has been doing quite a few rings in that style (larger cluster halo recently). ERD could do it nicely too.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

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I would have the Christopher Designs one custom made with a few tweaks. BGD has been doing quite a few rings in that style (larger cluster halo recently). ERD could do it nicely too.

I agree.

 

[BigHenry]

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If she hasn't looked at many rings yet, I would worry just a little about buying that second one. I think there are SO many more choices when you look at ring designs online such as on that Gabriel and Co site. Also, this thread starting with the most recent posts and going backwards would be a great thing for her to look through. I am just afraid particularly about the second ring that the style may not be one that is timeless.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-forum-engagement-ring-folder-eye-candy.5429/page-261']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-forum-engagement-ring-folder-eye-candy.5429/page-261[/URL]

style not timeless as in she will get tired of it? Or it will be out of style? She likes a thick band and just one ring instead of a normal size band and a second wedding band. She only likes round diamonds, hates solitaires, says they look too plain. She didn't really like the first one in the pics but when she saw it she liked it. This is the one at Jared that she loved http://design.jared-diamonds.com/engagement-rings/settings-with-sidestones/ring/item_58-5872.asp

 

[Gypsy]

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Let's start with some basics. What is your budget and what do you want for it?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

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If she hasn't looked at many rings yet, I would worry just a little about buying that second one. I think there are SO many more choices when you look at ring designs online such as on that Gabriel and Co site. Also, this thread starting with the most recent posts and going backwards would be a great thing for her to look through. I am just afraid particularly about the second ring that the style may not be one that is timeless.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-forum-engagement-ring-folder-eye-candy.5429/page-261']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-forum-engagement-ring-folder-eye-candy.5429/page-261[/URL]

style not timeless as in she will get tired of it? Or it will be out of style? She likes a thick band and just one ring instead of a normal size band and a second wedding band. She only likes round diamonds, hates solitaires, says they look too plain. She didn't really like the first one in the pics but when she saw it she liked it. This is the one at Jared that she loved http://design.jared-diamonds.com/engagement-rings/settings-with-sidestones/ring/item_58-5872.asp

Well, certainly this ring is not for me, it is for her, and you should get what she loves. But that second ring (like the Jared one) is not exactly a popular style right now and I do think it has the potential to be really out of style at some point and she might really get tired of it. BUT, the second picture you posted appears to be a much better quality setting than the one from Jared's, so good for you for finding it!

 

[BigHenry]

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Let's start with some basics. What is your budget and what do you want for it?

I would say in the $4-5k range. I'm not a fan of this tradition at all but of course she doesn't see it the same way I do lol. She would be fine with a piece from a mall store I'm sure but to me that seems like a waste if it is supposed to last forever. I dont want to buy a cheap piece only to regret it in 2 years and buy something good then. So I guess what I want out of it is a nice ring that she will love with a quality diamond in it. Of coarse for her the more carats the better right???? I explained to her that the 1/2 carat good looking one was damn near the same width as the .70 crap rock at jared and I think she is getting the idea of it now. Now its more like she picks the setting and I am in charge of picking the stone.

 

[BigHenry]

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If she hasn't looked at many rings yet, I would worry just a little about buying that second one. I think there are SO many more choices when you look at ring designs online such as on that Gabriel and Co site. Also, this thread starting with the most recent posts and going backwards would be a great thing for her to look through. I am just afraid particularly about the second ring that the style may not be one that is timeless.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-forum-engagement-ring-folder-eye-candy.5429/page-261']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-forum-engagement-ring-folder-eye-candy.5429/page-261[/URL]

style not timeless as in she will get tired of it? Or it will be out of style? She likes a thick band and just one ring instead of a normal size band and a second wedding band. She only likes round diamonds, hates solitaires, says they look too plain. She didn't really like the first one in the pics but when she saw it she liked it. This is the one at Jared that she loved http://design.jared-diamonds.com/engagement-rings/settings-with-sidestones/ring/item_58-5872.asp

Well, certainly this ring is not for me, it is for her, and you should get what she loves. But that second ring (like the Jared one) is not exactly a popular style right now and I do think it has the potential to be really out of style at some point and she might really get tired of it. BUT, the second picture you posted appears to be a much better quality setting than the one from Jared's, so good for you for finding it!

That is what she noticed as well. The material seems to be much better quality of the ring and the side stones also look much better than the Jared ring.

 

[Gypsy]

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Let's start with some basics. What is your budget and what do you want for it?

I would say in the $4-5k range. I'm not a fan of this tradition at all but of course she doesn't see it the same way I do lol. She would be fine with a piece from a mall store I'm sure but to me that seems like a waste if it is supposed to last forever. I dont want to buy a cheap piece only to regret it in 2 years and buy something good then. So I guess what I want out of it is a nice ring that she will love with a quality diamond in it. Of coarse for her the more carats the better right???? I explained to her that the 1/2 carat good looking one was damn near the same width as the .70 crap rock at jared and I think she is getting the idea of it now. Now its more like she picks the setting and I am in charge of picking the stone.

Your budget is low for a lab graded 70-80 point stone in a large halo like that.

Regarded ungraded stones.

Being a gemologist is not a guarantee of character, integrity or honesty. Or frankly competence. Think of having major surgery done-- do you go with just any doctor or do you go with the best in your area? And how do you know they are best? Well there is a medical board. Well, with gemologists and appraisers there are no boards to regulate them and the majority of people have no knowledge of jewelry quality and can't judge whether their jewelry quality is any good. So how do you know the quality of your stone? That's where the labs come in. A GOOD jeweler wouldn't even try to sell you on an uncertified round brilliant over a lab graded one.

Lab grading costs 350. If they can lab grade a stone, if there is NO difference in quality between the ungraded and the lab graded, then why don't they lab grade it for a cheap 350 in price and then charge more for it? Do they want to lose money? Are they stupid? No. They aren't. Ungraded diamonds are that way because they sell for more money that way. PERIOD. There is more profit in keeping them ungraded. You know why? Because they are only sold to ignorant customers that the jeweler can hood wink with promises of 'similar grading to labs' and 'same quality.' But the reality is if the stones WERE the same quality then they would have been sent to a lab so they could charge more.

And if it's important to your lady to have a traditional ring, then it should be important to you. Do you think I really care whether or not the NJ Devils win the Eastern Conference Finals? Nope. But I happily go to Costco and stock up on husbands favorite snacks, record the program and sit there and root and cheer and get excited every time someone bleeds. Why? Because I love him and it's important to him, so it's important to me. I don't expect praise for it, and I don't ask for it. It's just what you do in a relationship. I would wager that the majority of men who shop for diamonds think they are a waste of money and think the money could be better spent elsewhere.

The ring with the halo will cost close to 7.5-8k to get it in a quality that will stand up to wear and with a nice quality center stone of about 70 points.

The other setting will be cheaper, so your budget would work better for it.

Personally, if you can't comfortably up the budget then you need to keep looking for a setting that she loves that's in a style that's more affordable.

 

[BigHenry]

Re: Need help to ID ring please. And advice on 2 options so

Let's start with some basics. What is your budget and what do you want for it?

I would say in the $4-5k range. I'm not a fan of this tradition at all but of course she doesn't see it the same way I do lol. She would be fine with a piece from a mall store I'm sure but to me that seems like a waste if it is supposed to last forever. I dont want to buy a cheap piece only to regret it in 2 years and buy something good then. So I guess what I want out of it is a nice ring that she will love with a quality diamond in it. Of coarse for her the more carats the better right???? I explained to her that the 1/2 carat good looking one was damn near the same width as the .70 crap rock at jared and I think she is getting the idea of it now. Now its more like she picks the setting and I am in charge of picking the stone.

Your budget is low for a lab graded 70-80 point stone in a large halo like that.

Regarded ungraded stones.

Being a gemologist is not a guarantee of character, integrity or honesty. Or frankly competence. Think of having major surgery done-- do you go with just any doctor or do you go with the best in your area? And how do you know they are best? Well there is a medical board. Well, with gemologists and appraisers there are no boards to regulate them and the majority of people have no knowledge of jewelry quality and can't judge whether their jewelry quality is any good. So how do you know the quality of your stone? That's where the labs come in. A GOOD jeweler wouldn't even try to sell you on an uncertified round brilliant over a lab graded one.

Lab grading costs 350. If they can lab grade a stone, if there is NO difference in quality between the ungraded and the lab graded, then why don't they lab grade it for a cheap 350 in price and then charge more for it? Do they want to lose money? Are they stupid? No. They aren't. Ungraded diamonds are that way because they sell for more money that way. PERIOD. There is more profit in keeping them ungraded. You know why? Because they are only sold to ignorant customers that the jeweler can hood wink with promises of 'similar grading to labs' and 'same quality.' But the reality is if the stones WERE the same quality then they would have been sent to a lab so they could charge more.

And if it's important to your lady to have a traditional ring, then it should be important to you. Do you think I really care whether or not the NJ Devils win the Eastern Conference Finals? Nope. But I happily go to Costco and stock up on husbands favorite snacks, record the program and sit there and root and cheer and get excited every time someone bleeds. Why? Because I love him and it's important to him, so it's important to me. I don't expect praise for it, and I don't ask for it. It's just what you do in a relationship. I would wager that the majority of men who shop for diamonds think they are a waste of money and think the money could be better spent elsewhere.

The ring with the halo will cost close to 7.5-8k to get it in a quality that will stand up to wear and with a nice quality center stone of about 70 points.

The other setting will be cheaper, so your budget would work better for it.

Personally, if you can't comfortably up the budget then you need to keep looking for a setting that she loves that's in a style that's more affordable.

Thank you for this helpful information.

Maybe you got them mixed up or I didn't explain correctly. She doesn't want a "traditional ring" She wants the second ring. The first ring with the Halo is a .57ct 1.1cttw. That one is GIA certified from Christopher Designs.
The second one is the one that she absolutely loves. The center stone in the picture is 1/2ct. The price like that was around $2,800 I believe. They quote me $4,600 for .71ct and $4,850 for .89ct. I am still waiting to here back on all the specs and grading

Edit: In regards to the uncertified stones selling for more. Do you mean just more profit? Like the price would be the same as a certified stone they are just making more profit do to not sending it for grading.

 

[Gypsy]

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Edit: In regards to the uncertified stones selling for more. Do you mean just more profit? Like the price would be the same as a certified stone they are just making more profit do to not sending it for grading.

Yes, they make a great profit by keeping the stones ungraded than they would make by getting it graded. That usually means there is something wrong with it that they don't want a lab report testifying to the facts of it.

 

[BigHenry]

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Edit: In regards to the uncertified stones selling for more. Do you mean just more profit? Like the price would be the same as a certified stone they are just making more profit do to not sending it for grading.

Yes, they make a great profit by keeping the stones ungraded than they would make by getting it graded. That usually means there is something wrong with it that they don't want a lab report testifying to the facts of it.

Thats crazy, I would think that they would be way cheaper since everybody wants certified stones. Hopefully the ones he quoted me were graded

 

[Gypsy]

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Edit: In regards to the uncertified stones selling for more. Do you mean just more profit? Like the price would be the same as a certified stone they are just making more profit do to not sending it for grading.

Yes, they make a great profit by keeping the stones ungraded than they would make by getting it graded. That usually means there is something wrong with it that they don't want a lab report testifying to the facts of it.

Thats crazy, I would think that they would be way cheaper since everybody wants certified stones. Hopefully the ones he quoted me were graded

The only grading that is a true value is GIA or AGS. Do not accept anything else.

 

[Gypsy]

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[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/[/URL] This is why EGL, IGI or any other certification is a false value.

EGL is also the only lab that pre-certifies. That means that a cutting house or wholesaler can submit diamonds for pre-grading, and that is cheap and tell them basic information. If they are happy with that precertification then they purchase the more expensive actual full report. Which is why EGL is very soft on grading. They have no incentive to be strict or accurate. If they inflate the diamond grading they sell more certificates, they sell more certificates they make more money. There is a reason GIA and EGL stones cost more. They are accurate.

Also cut is important. Please read through this tutorial https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds

 

[BigHenry]

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Edit: In regards to the uncertified stones selling for more. Do you mean just more profit? Like the price would be the same as a certified stone they are just making more profit do to not sending it for grading.

Yes, they make a great profit by keeping the stones ungraded than they would make by getting it graded. That usually means there is something wrong with it that they don't want a lab report testifying to the facts of it.

Thats crazy, I would think that they would be way cheaper since everybody wants certified stones. Hopefully the ones he quoted me were graded

The only grading that is a true value is GIA or AGS. Do not accept anything else.

This is exactly what the guy with the christopher design ring told me as well as what seems to be the standard opinion on pricescope

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/ This is why EGL, IGI or any other certification is a false value.

EGL is also the only lab that pre-certifies. That means that a cutting house or wholesaler can submit diamonds for pre-grading, and that is cheap and tell them basic information. If they are happy with that precertification then they purchase the more expensive actual full report. Which is why EGL is very soft on grading. They have no incentive to be strict or accurate. If they inflate the diamond grading they sell more certificates, they sell more certificates they make more money. There is a reason GIA and EGL stones cost more. They are accurate.

Also cut is important. Please read through this tutorial https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds

Thanks for the first link, very interesting read. I could really see it when we looked at loose stones. One jeweler was showing me sI1 with GIA that looked pretty damn good to me. At another place I saw SI1 that you could see inclusions from a foot away. Jared had a bunch of IGI stones that were SI1 and even VS2 that didn't look very good.

 

[Gypsy]

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There you go. We have nothing to gain by lying to you. We get no commissions, kick backs, or discounts. We just do this because it's our idea of fun. Sounds to me like the Christopher Designs vendor has been honest to you and they seem to care about you as a customer. And the other jeweler has shown that they don't care about you as a customer but only care about their bottom line. So... if it were me an I was shopping locally, I wouldn't give the other jeweler my time or my business.

 

[Gypsy]

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https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/egl-certification-are-any-of-them-ok.142863/ This is why EGL, IGI or any other certification is a false value.

EGL is also the only lab that pre-certifies. That means that a cutting house or wholesaler can submit diamonds for pre-grading, and that is cheap and tell them basic information. If they are happy with that precertification then they purchase the more expensive actual full report. Which is why EGL is very soft on grading. They have no incentive to be strict or accurate. If they inflate the diamond grading they sell more certificates, they sell more certificates they make more money. There is a reason GIA and EGL stones cost more. They are accurate.

Also cut is important. Please read through this tutorial https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds

EDIT.. That's supposed to read : GIA and AGS. Not EGL Oops.

 

[Christina...]

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I 100% agree with Gypsy. I think it's great too that you understand the importance of diameter of the stone and how it relates to the ct weight and overall appearance of the diamond. The fact that this particular vendor brought that to your attention means that he interested in selling you a well cut diamond, sadly there are many jewelers who are not.

If it were me, and I knew that my gf loved both of these settings, I would buy from the CD store, specifically because they seem more honest. That's who I would want to do business with. I also think that a .5-.75ct diamond will have a significant impact in a setting like that. It will appear much larger on her hand. I'm not familiar with the quality of their settings, and that's important, but I also don't think that you need to spend $7-8000.00 for a custom hand forged setting either. It is true though, that when selecting a setting that has lots of melee (the teeny tiny diamonds in the setting) that quality and craftsmanship is important as these stones have a tendency to fall out even in the best made designs, but it's possible to find quality work for less.

 

[Phdecorate]

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I can't speak to option 2 but the Christopher Designs that I have seen in person are beautiful. I was very interested in a cushion cut halo by him at one point and the setting alone to fit a 2 carat was almost 5k. Someone I know has a Christopher Designs emerald cut halo 5 ct and it is unbelievable. Is the center diamond in the ring you saw a Criscut diamond? It is his signature - patented extra facets to change the cut a bit. Just wanted to chime in on what I believe to be the quality of a CD design.

I know this is way out of budget (out of mine too!!) but here is that ring I saw, just to give you another example of his work

 

[BigHenry]

There you go. We have nothing to gain by lying to you. We get no commissions, kick backs, or discounts. We just do this because it's our idea of fun. Sounds to me like the Christopher Designs vendor has been honest to you and they seem to care about you as a customer. And the other jeweler has shown that they don't care about you as a customer but only care about their bottom line. So... if it were me an I was shopping locally, I wouldn't give the other jeweler my time or my business.

that's why trying to find the second setting. The second one she likes much more than the CD ring.
Who knows though, when I get all the details they might have quoted me for GIA stones since I had showed interest in them when I was in the store. Or worst case maybe they will sell just the setting.

 

[webdiva]

Re: Need help to ID ring please. And advice on 2 options so

There you go. We have nothing to gain by lying to you. We get no commissions, kick backs, or discounts. We just do this because it's our idea of fun. Sounds to me like the Christopher Designs vendor has been honest to you and they seem to care about you as a customer. And the other jeweler has shown that they don't care about you as a customer but only care about their bottom line. So... if it were me an I was shopping locally, I wouldn't give the other jeweler my time or my business.

that's why trying to find the second setting. The second one she likes much more than the CD ring.
Who knows though, when I get all the details they might have quoted me for GIA stones since I had showed interest in them when I was in the store. Or worst case maybe they will sell just the setting.

You may be able to find a setting like the 2nd one somewhere else, or have it made. With the caveat that tension settings are not ideal for an everyday ring like an engagement ring. I would also warn that you should take your time and she should try on dozens of different styles of rings to get a true feel. Go to some place like Robbins Bros (leave your cc at home!) to see different styles. Buying an engagement ring is a journey and our tastes sometimes change because rings look different on everyone's hands and because we're presented with options we've never seen before. I think you can find a ring she loves in the budget you need, with more time and research.

 

[BigHenry]

Re: Need help to ID ring please. And advice on 2 options so

There you go. We have nothing to gain by lying to you. We get no commissions, kick backs, or discounts. We just do this because it's our idea of fun. Sounds to me like the Christopher Designs vendor has been honest to you and they seem to care about you as a customer. And the other jeweler has shown that they don't care about you as a customer but only care about their bottom line. So... if it were me an I was shopping locally, I wouldn't give the other jeweler my time or my business.

that's why trying to find the second setting. The second one she likes much more than the CD ring.
Who knows though, when I get all the details they might have quoted me for GIA stones since I had showed interest in them when I was in the store. Or worst case maybe they will sell just the setting.

You may be able to find a setting like the 2nd one somewhere else, or have it made. With the caveat that tension settings are not ideal for an everyday ring like an engagement ring. I would also warn that you should take your time and she should try on dozens of different styles of rings to get a true feel. Go to some place like Robbins Bros (leave your cc at home!) to see different styles. Buying an engagement ring is a journey and our tastes sometimes change because rings look different on everyone's hands and because we're presented with options we've never seen before. I think you can find a ring she loves in the budget you need, with more time and research.

Is this still considered a tension setting though? there is metal connecting the ring directly under the stone. The jeweler said it has the look but it is not and so the stone is a lot more secure. He said they don't like to do tension settings for various reasons.

 

[BigHenry]

Re: Need help to ID ring please. And advice on 2 options so

Also whenever we go into a store she is always looking for something the style of the one from Jared and the second ring I pictured so that is for sure the style she is set on. but it just seems that there is not a wide selection of ring like that since it isn't common