Need help - 0.9 ctw RB H&A

[XVN]

Hi all,

This is my first post on this forum. I am currently looking for a stunning diamond for my bride to be and I am torn between these three diamonds from Brian Gavin Diamonds.

These are approximately 0.9ctw G VS2 true Hearts and Arrows Signature. One of them is D color, but with strong fluorescence (blue signature). Could you please help me choose between them?

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.908-g-vs2-round-diamond-ags-104071029002
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.903-d-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104067041023
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.931-g-vs2-round-diamond-ags-104071029014

Many thanks!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I'd choose the .93 ct stone because it just sounds closer to a carat (and has the slightest larger diameter). I would only choose the blue fluorescent stone if she is familiar with florescence and has said she prefers it for her diamond. I love it and prefer it, but most jewelers for some reason look down on it. So other people, because of lack of knowledge, might also look down on it. The D does also appear to have an inclusion in the center, and that would bug me even though I am sure I'd have to use a loupe to see it.

 

[XVN]

Thanks for your piece of advice !

 

[Lorelei]

I'd choose the .93 ct stone because it just sounds closer to a carat (and has the slightest larger diameter). I would only choose the blue fluorescent stone if she is familiar with florescence and has said she prefers it for her diamond. I love it and prefer it, but most jewelers for some reason look down on it. So other people, because of lack of knowledge, might also look down on it. The D does also appear to have an inclusion in the center, and that would bug me even though I am sure I'd have to use a loupe to see it.

Hi xvn,

My thoughts are similar to those of my esteemed friend, DiamondSeeker above. You could pick any of those and not get it wrong but if it comes to the crunch, I would also choose the .93ct too. I also love fluorescence and if the stone was for me, I would definitely be interested but as it's a D too, as DS rightly mentions, some might think the fluorescence to be undesirable even though I personally don't agree with that sentiment. If your GF has seen a medium or strongly fluorescent diamond and loves the effect, then that's different, otherwise I would consider faint or negligible fluorescence when picking a diamond. G .93ct therefore gets my vote too.

 

[teobdl]

XVN-just a couple questions to maybe save you a few thousand dollars on this purchase (about 40% off the price you're looking at).

Is there any reason not to dip below 0.9 ct? The diameter is virtually the same for many 0.85-0.89 ct and you would save at least 1K by dipping below 0.9 for no noticeable difference in size.

Is there a reason to get a G color? Almost no one can tell the difference between G and H, especially when set. I would not recommend going from G to I color, but G to H is definitely okay.

Currently, BG has a 0.85 ct H VS2 for $4600 http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.847-h-vs2-round-diamond-ags-104055908012... This diamond would visibly look almost exactly the same. **edited by moderator. NO promotion of sales on the forum please per our terms of service**

 

[XVN]

Hi Lorelei and Teobdl,

Thanks for your answer. Indeed, fluorescence could be a drawback for me especially if the stone is already graded as D.

Teobdl, if indeed there is no noticeable difference btw a 0.85 and a 0.9 ctw, would there be a big difference btw a 0.85 and a 0.93 ctw ? Anyway, I agree with you from examples I looked at that H and G color are almost the same, and that the BGD H&A that you suggest is interesting and even better cut than the ones I checked (according to HCA and H&A pictures). So yes, I'll consider it as well, especially when taking into account the price factor.

Regarding your selling offer, I'd rather have stone and setting bought at the same time as I do not live in the USA

 

[teobdl]

6.0X vs 6.2X would be very, very slightly noticeable if side by side, but not if you blinked between seeing them. The BG linked above is 6.08mm; mine is 6.15mm; the 0.931 ct is 6.24 mm.

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[Lorelei]

Hi Lorelei and Teobdl,

Thanks for your answer. Indeed, fluorescence could be a drawback for me especially if the stone is already graded as D.

Teobdl, if indeed there is no noticeable difference btw a 0.85 and a 0.9 ctw, would there be a big difference btw a 0.85 and a 0.93 ctw ? Anyway, I agree with you from examples I looked at that H and G color are almost the same, and that the BGD H&A that you suggest is interesting and even better cut than the ones I checked (according to HCA and H&A pictures). So yes, I'll consider it as well, especially when taking into account the price factor.

Regarding your selling offer, I'd rather have stone and setting bought at the same time as I do not live in the USA

Just to say I agree with Teo, there would be no appreciable size difference between .85 and .93 cts unless you viewed them unset side by side and even then the difference visually would be slight, if you think your GF might prefer that you bought a diamond that was a bit closer to a carat, then that's what I would suggest.

 

[Ella]

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[XVN]

As Lorelei indicated, blue fluorescence can be appealing as a near colourless diamond could appear whiter. To stay within the initial budget, what would you think of this one :

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.022-h-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104068959042#

It seems to possess nice arrows patterns, desirable H colour (close to initially wanted G colour, thanks teo !) and no visible inclusions. Hearts patterns are not described. HCA results indicate 1.4.

Thanks for your advice, again !

 

[teobdl]

It's not universally true that flouro makes a diamond appear whiter. You need certain lighting. And the uv spectrum of the light source can't be too strong otherwise it turns the blue color.

Still, if it's still within budget the diamond you linked is certainly the biggest and it's nice to get over 1 ct and stay within budget.

 

[Lorelei]

As Lorelei indicated, blue fluorescence can be appealing as a near colourless diamond could appear whiter. To stay within the initial budget, what would you think of this one :

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.022-h-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104068959042#

It seems to possess nice arrows patterns, desirable H colour (close to initially wanted G colour, thanks teo !) and no visible inclusions. Hearts patterns are not described. HCA results indicate 1.4.

Thanks for your advice, again !

It is important to note that blue fluorescence is said to make a diamond appear whiter only when the lighting is right, i.e UV light, I don't believe it has any appreciable effect without, unless the experts handling many diamonds have any comment on that? Depending on the amount of UV light and the strength of the fluorescence, as an example, I have a faint and a medium and both show an almost faint violet-ish glow in some lightings which is very pretty, not really a definite blue, just an undertone.

The above is a lovely diamond and the medium blue might be an asset in H colour, ask Brian or Lesley what effect the fluorescence has on the stone, it could be a super choice.

 

[XVN]

Hi,

The more I inquire into diamonds, the more I get lost.
Just talked to Jamie yesterday from BGD, who confirmed that diamonds were indeed eye-clean and that fluo would make diamonds appear whiter under natural light regarding BG Blue Signature.

So my final thoughts are btw these following diamonds :

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.024-i-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104070945010#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.094-i-vs1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104071675012#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/3/
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.022-h-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104068959042

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.847-h-vs2-round-diamond-ags-104055908012
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.926-i-vs1-round-diamond-ags-c-104070939054#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/0/

Please help, I really want to make the right decision !

 

[tyty333]

Hi,

The more I inquire into diamonds, the more I get lost.
Just talked to Jamie yesterday from BGD, who confirmed that diamonds were indeed eye-clean and that fluo would make diamonds appear whiter under natural light regarding BG Blue Signature.

So my final thoughts are btw these following diamonds :

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.024-i-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104070945010#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/1/
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.094-i-vs1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104071675012#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/3/
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.022-h-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104068959042
I would go with the H if your budget allows other wise the 1st one because it is the least expensive and you
hit the 1 carat mark. They are all very nice choices though.[/b]

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.847-h-vs2-round-diamond-ags-104055908012
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.926-i-vs1-round-diamond-ags-c-104070939054#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/0/

Please help, I really want to make the right decision !