Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX GIA

[firsttimer90036]

First timer here. Just looking for some help on finding the right stone for an E ring. Looking for

1.5-1.6 CT
Round
H
SI1
Ex Ex Ex
GIA Certified

Budget: $12,000-$12,500 on the high side

Thanks again! This has been a lengthy search and has yet to bear any fruit.

 

[ame]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

First timer here. Just looking for some help on finding the right stone for an E ring. Looking for

1.5-1.6 CT
Round
H
SI1
Ex Ex Ex
GIA Certified

Budget: $12,000-$12,500 on the high side

Thanks again! This has been a lengthy search and has yet to bear any fruit.

Lower color than you're wanting but a STEAL.
http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-default&id=34

 

[firsttimer90036]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

First timer here. Just looking for some help on finding the right stone for an E ring. Looking for

1.5-1.6 CT
Round
H
SI1
Ex Ex Ex
GIA Certified

Budget: $12,000-$12,500 on the high side

Thanks again! This has been a lengthy search and has yet to bear any fruit.

Lower color than you're wanting but a STEAL.
http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-default&id=34

I am considering dropping down to an I color. Think there is a huge difference in appearance between H and I? Any recommendations?

 

[ame]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

First timer here. Just looking for some help on finding the right stone for an E ring. Looking for

1.5-1.6 CT
Round
H
SI1
Ex Ex Ex
GIA Certified

Budget: $12,000-$12,500 on the high side

Thanks again! This has been a lengthy search and has yet to bear any fruit.

Lower color than you're wanting but a STEAL.
http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-default&id=34

I am considering dropping down to an I color. Think there is a huge difference in appearance between H and I? Any recommendations?

Not significant enough to avoid an I. Side by side you'd notice it. But face up, not likely.

 

[Gypsy]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.59-carat-i-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-286971

What do you guys think of this stone?

Would it be bad for me to go from an H down to an I?

Need some help here! Thanks

Use this: https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca Anything under 2.5 is a pass from a vendor with idealscope images-- under 2 for those that don't offer idealscope images (HCA test is pass fail, only use on GIA stones, not AGS, and any score under 2.5 is fine. None is better than another). If the stone passes then you ask for an idealscope image from JA. Also, I think I Color is lovely. And a great value.

Here's my usual post for reference:

HCA is not a selection tool. It's a rejection tool. And it is pass fail. Anything below 2 is pass. 2.1-2.5 is a maybe. Over 2.5 is a fail.


No score is better than another under 2 (2.5 from a vendor that offers Idealscope images, like JA). It is pass fail. But again. NOT a selection tool. It is a rejection tool.

The entire purpose of faceting a diamond is to reflect light.
How well or how poorly a diamond does this determines how beautiful it is.
How well a diamond performs is determined by the angles and cutting. This is why we say cut is king.
No other factor: not color, not clarity has as much of an impact on the appearance of a diamond as its cut. An ideal H will out white a poorly cut F. And GIA Ex is not enough.
So how to we ensure that we have the right angles and cutting to get the light performance we want?
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-cut
Well one method is to start with a GIA Ex, and then apply the HCA to it.
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/holloway-cut-advisor
The HCA is a rejection tool. Not a selection tool. It uses 4 data points to make a rudimentary call on how the diamond may perform.
If the diamond passes then you know that you are in the right zone in terms of angles for light performance.
Is that enough? Not really.
So what you need is a way to check actual light performance of your actual stone.
That's what an idealscope image does. https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/firescope-idealscope
It shows you how and wear your diamond is reflecting light, how well it is going at it, and where you are losing light return. That is why you won't see us recommending Blue Nile, as they do not provide idealscope images for their diamonds. James Allen and WF do.

The Idealscope is the 'selection tool'. Not the HCA.
So yes, with a GIA stone you need the idealscope images. Or you can buy an idealscope yourself and take it in to the jeweler you are working with to check the stones yourself. Or if you have a good return policy (full refund minimum 7 days) then you can buy the idealscope, buy the stone, and do it at home.


Now if you want to skip all that... stick to AGS0 stones and then all you have to do is pick color and clarity and you know you have a great performing diamond. Because AGS has already done the checking for you. That's why they trade at a premium.

 

[ame]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

There's a LOT of stones that would fall in your radius that either Wink at HPD could get you if you contacted him, or any of our fine vendors could get in for you. Have you contacted him or any of them? If that J doesn't do anything for you--contact him and see if he has something that meets your requirements.

 

[RockyRacoon]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

First timer here. Just looking for some help on finding the right stone for an E ring. Looking for

1.5-1.6 CT
Round
H
SI1
Ex Ex Ex
GIA Certified

Budget: $12,000-$12,500 on the high side

Thanks again! This has been a lengthy search and has yet to bear any fruit.

Check out this option:

E color (!), over 1.5ct., top-notch cut, verified eye-clean, AND at your budget after Pricescope discount:

1.504ct, E, SI2 (verified eye-clean)
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.504-e-si2-round-diamond-ags-104064814013

 

[Roqsteady]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

First timer here. Just looking for some help on finding the right stone for an E ring. Looking for

1.5-1.6 CT
Round
H
SI1
Ex Ex Ex
GIA Certified

Budget: $12,000-$12,500 on the high side

Thanks again! This has been a lengthy search and has yet to bear any fruit.

Check out this option:

E color (!), over 1.5ct., top-notch cut, verified eye-clean, AND at your budget after Pricescope discount:

1.504ct, E, SI2 (verified eye-clean)
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.504-e-si2-round-diamond-ags-104064814013

This is a pretty sweet deal for a 1.5 ct E color if it is indeed eye-clean. I'd almost snatch it up for myself! But even though I know it's a magnified image, those 2 big black dots (one on the side, one a little deeper in the center) would bug me... I'd wonder from what distance it would be eye clean.

 

[firsttimer90036]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

There's a LOT of stones that would fall in your radius that either Wink at HPD could get you if you contacted him, or any of our fine vendors could get in for you. Have you contacted him or any of them? If that J doesn't do anything for you--contact him and see if he has something that meets your requirements.

His contact info please? I would love to contact him.

 

[firsttimer90036]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

First timer here. Just looking for some help on finding the right stone for an E ring. Looking for

1.5-1.6 CT
Round
H
SI1
Ex Ex Ex
GIA Certified

Budget: $12,000-$12,500 on the high side

Thanks again! This has been a lengthy search and has yet to bear any fruit.

Check out this option:

E color (!), over 1.5ct., top-notch cut, verified eye-clean, AND at your budget after Pricescope discount:

1.504ct, E, SI2 (verified eye-clean)
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.504-e-si2-round-diamond-ags-104064814013

This is a pretty sweet deal for a 1.5 ct E color if it is indeed eye-clean. I'd almost snatch it up for myself! But even though I know it's a magnified image, those 2 big black dots (one on the side, one a little deeper in the center) would bug me... I'd wonder from what distance it would be eye clean.

Too much $$$$.

 

[firsttimer90036]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

First timer here. Just looking for some help on finding the right stone for an E ring. Looking for

1.5-1.6 CT
Round
H
SI1
Ex Ex Ex
GIA Certified

Budget: $12,000-$12,500 on the high side

Thanks again! This has been a lengthy search and has yet to bear any fruit.

Check out this option:

E color (!), over 1.5ct., top-notch cut, verified eye-clean, AND at your budget after Pricescope discount:

1.504ct, E, SI2 (verified eye-clean)
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.504-e-si2-round-diamond-ags-104064814013

Where/what is the Pricescope discount?

 

[RockyRacoon]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

First timer here. Just looking for some help on finding the right stone for an E ring. Looking for

1.5-1.6 CT
Round
H
SI1
Ex Ex Ex
GIA Certified

Budget: $12,000-$12,500 on the high side

Thanks again! This has been a lengthy search and has yet to bear any fruit.

Check out this option:

E color (!), over 1.5ct., top-notch cut, verified eye-clean, AND at your budget after Pricescope discount:

1.504ct, E, SI2 (verified eye-clean)
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.504-e-si2-round-diamond-ags-104064814013

Where/what is the Pricescope discount?

BGD gives a discount exclusively to Pricescope members. Reach out to them, to find out the final cost, after discount.

 

[firsttimer90036]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

What do you think of this diamond?

 

[Dancing Fire]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

What do you think of this diamond?

Too deep.

 

[firsttimer90036]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

What do you think of this diamond?

Too deep.

Help me out. What do you mean by that exactly? I know you mean the depth, but what constitutes "too deep" in your eyes? Thanks!

 

[ame]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

There's a LOT of stones that would fall in your radius that either Wink at HPD could get you if you contacted him, or any of our fine vendors could get in for you. Have you contacted him or any of them? If that J doesn't do anything for you--contact him and see if he has something that meets your requirements.

His contact info please? I would love to contact him.

http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=contact

I'd email him--he's super good with email. But he's also quite charming on the phone.

 

[firsttimer90036]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

What do you think of this diamond?

Too deep.

62.8% seems to be right on the border. No?

 

[firsttimer90036]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

What about this diamond?

 

[firsttimer90036]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

What about this diamond?

SEE ABOVE

 

[WinkHPD]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

What do you think of this diamond?

Too deep.

62.8% seems to be right on the border. No?

It's not the total depth, although that is well past what I like, it is how it got there.

A 41.4 pavilion angle, even when paired with a corresponding 35.5 crown angle simply is too steep and deep to be truly special. You must remember that GIA hardly ever meets a stone it doesn't like and is perfectly happy giving around 40% of all diamonds cut today their X cut grade. Throw in the VG rating and you have over 60% of the stones in production graded in the top two grades.

Someone said it really well a couple of weeks ago, "A GIA X is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get."

In my opinion, this diamond has gone well across the border, and not to the good side. If this was Star Wars, Yoda would be calling out, "Luke, come back to the light."

 

[firsttimer90036]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

What do you think of this diamond?

Too deep.

62.8% seems to be right on the border. No?

It's not the total depth, although that is well past what I like, it is how it got there.

A 41.4 pavilion angle, even when paired with a corresponding 35.5 crown angle simply is too steep and deep to be truly special. You must remember that GIA hardly ever meets a stone it doesn't like and is perfectly happy giving around 40% of all diamonds cut today their X cut grade. Throw in the VG rating and you have over 60% of the stones in production graded in the top two grades.

Someone said it really well a couple of weeks ago, "A GIA X is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get."

In my opinion, this diamond has gone well across the border, and not to the good side. If this was Star Wars, Yoda would be calling out, "Luke, come back to the light."

Great Wink, I appreciate your experience and insight. Can you help me find something better? That would be so great! Thanks!

 

[ame]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

What do you think of this diamond?

Too deep.

62.8% seems to be right on the border. No?

It's not the total depth, although that is well past what I like, it is how it got there.

A 41.4 pavilion angle, even when paired with a corresponding 35.5 crown angle simply is too steep and deep to be truly special. You must remember that GIA hardly ever meets a stone it doesn't like and is perfectly happy giving around 40% of all diamonds cut today their X cut grade. Throw in the VG rating and you have over 60% of the stones in production graded in the top two grades.

Someone said it really well a couple of weeks ago, "A GIA X is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get."

In my opinion, this diamond has gone well across the border, and not to the good side. If this was Star Wars, Yoda would be calling out, "Luke, come back to the light."

Great Wink, I appreciate your experience and insight. Can you help me find something better? That would be so great! Thanks!

Go to his website and contact him through the contact information. He cannot help you on the forums.

 

[Gypsy]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

Oh for the love! Why do we post information for you if you aren't going to read it.

GO UP TO MY LAST POST. READ THE THING. CLICK ON THE LINKS. AND READ THOSE TOO.

Alternately, call WINK, and he can help you.

 

[firsttimer90036]

Re: Need Expert E Ring Help: 1.5-1.6 ct Round H SI1 EX EX EX

Oh for the love! Why do we post information for you if you aren't going to read it.

GO UP TO MY LAST POST. READ THE THING. CLICK ON THE LINKS. AND READ THOSE TOO.

Alternately, call WINK, and he can help you.

AHAHA.

I apologize, hard to sort through all of the expert details and lengthy explanations and one word answers without explanations. I am trying to absorb it all little by little.

My name is "FirstTimer" for a reason. : )