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Need Advice - Wife lost her 24 yr old diamond ring

jesjammin

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Hi folks, I am hoping you all can help me out with a difficult situation. My wife of 24 yrs lost the diamond ring I gave her in 1991, and she is devastated. The good news is that we did have ring insurance, but it now looks to be somewhat low in value. The diamond I gave her originally was an Original Radiant Cut .85 VVS1 color H, and best guess it had an about 1.10 - 1.2 dimension. It was set on a custom band. It was insured at $6500 total. I got her to look at settings over the weekend, and she gravitated toward a white gold solitaire setting with channel diamonds on the sides. She has 2 things she wants me to promise when I get her a new ring. First, she is adamant that we are not spend more than the insurance coverage (I want to get her something a little bigger but I respect her reasoning). Second, she wants it to be a squarish cut, no rounds (similar to what I originally got her). So, based on local prices I see for settings it looks like I have around $4500-4700 to spend on a loose diamond. For sure the original stone had the "bucket of ice" look, and she still is fine with that look, but I showed her both radiant cuts and cushion cuts online and she was fine with a squarish cushion style. We both also liked the more symmetric Jubilee and Brellia cuts of the cushions we saw.

I am leaning toward a cushion because in the several days of diamond education I gave myself it seems the cushion is easier to get some level of confidence on brilliance and fire compared to most of the pure radiants I am seeing. Seems like the radiant's are a crap shoot as too whether it will pop or just sit there due to such poor cutting of these stones. I noticed that both David Gavin and GOG has some level of certification (ASET & DiamXray, etc) on the "cut" for their cushions so I have a better feeling for buying them sight unseen and ultimately how it will look when mounted.

I obviously still have a ton to learn, but I want to get her the best I can for the money we have, so any advice on cuts, diamond sources, etc would be much appreciated. Right now I would say I am leaning toward a cushion .85 - 1 carat, VVS - VS1 (if eye clean), anything between D - G (a little worried about H or above for a cushion set on white gold), prefer a more symmetric style like Jubilee or Brellia, more squareish versus roundish. Am I on a good track or missing something in my analysis, and do ya think I can get a high quality cushion like this with my budget?

Thanks

John
 
I am sorry to hear about the lost ring, but I think you are very much on the right track! Either Good Old Gold's cushions or Brian Gavin's would be outstanding! You do not need VVS. Get VS1-VS2 and get as much size as you can. As far as color goes, I'd probably prefer G-H in a cushion, and that is FINE in white gold! In fact, there are people here with much lower than J color set in white metals!

I strongly advise you to choose a diamond and then buy the setting from the diamond vendor so they can send you the ring complete. I'll look and see what diamonds are available in their stock.

But first let me get this straight...is your insurance company sending you a check for the lost ring so you can buy anything you want?
 
Awesome, thanks DiamondSeeker. Yea, eyeclean is what I really want, so clarity is flexible if I can be sure there are not noticeable inclusions. Also good to hear that H is not problematic, I noted at least one comment here about cushions being more color sensitive when set. And on the insurance question, that is our understanding from our local agent where we purchased the standalone ring coverage from. That said, we have not yet formally submitted the claim. We plan to do that Monday.
 
I really think you'll be quite safe to go to H in that size. In most lighting, it's pretty tough to readily tell a G from an H apart, even when they're right next to each other.

GOG has very good options in the H color range at your price point. Also, don't rule out the non symmetric signature modern cushions. If you get a video made, ask to have a modern cushion thrown in so you can see the real life differences. I think you'll find that when the shot is not exactly perpendicular (it never is in real life), then it's hard to appreciate (see) the symmetry of a brellia vs non-symmetric modern cushions anyway. It's a matter of taste, but it's worth exploring.

This would be nice http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11122/
 
jesjammin|1393823001|3626245 said:
Awesome, thanks DiamondSeeker. Yea, eyeclean is what I really want, so clarity is flexible if I can be sure there are not noticeable inclusions. Also good to hear that H is not problematic, I noted at least one comment here about cushions being more color sensitive when set. And on the insurance question, that is our understanding from our local agent where we purchased the standalone ring coverage from. That said, we have not yet formally submitted the claim. We plan to do that Monday.

Ah, so great that you have that kind of policy!!!

We can help you with the setting options once you decide on a diamond. Both vendors have fine quality settings and I am certain we can help you find one in the style she likes.
 
teobdl|1393823048|3626246 said:
I really think you'll be quite safe to go to H in that size. In most lighting, it's pretty tough to readily tell a G from an H apart, even when they're right next to each other.

GOG has very good options in the H color range at your price point. Also, don't rule out the non symmetric signature modern cushions. If you get a video made, ask to have a modern cushion thrown in so you can see the real life differences. I think you'll find that when the shot is not exactly perpendicular (it never is in real life), then it's hard to appreciate (see) the symmetry of a brellia vs non-symmetric modern cushions anyway. It's a matter of taste, but it's worth exploring.

This would be nice http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11122/

The SI1 had me a little nervous. Those of you with GOG experience comfortable with their "certified eye clean" commitment? I had been eyeing this one, but admittedly it is a little below my lower size limit:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11562/

Thoughts on this or Brellia style in general? Are there any other reliable online sources for Brellia or Jubilee cushions?
 
Ok, so right now I think I have the following on my short list:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11725/ - my first choice, good size, specs, and ASET seems ok (to me anyhow)

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11562/ - like the Brellia look and ASET, but sightly small

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11122/ - BIG, and nice in small picture, but ASET looks less refined (again, to me). I would put this one in video with the others just to see if it looks good live.

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d.../0.718-f-vs2-cushion-diamond-ags-104068042002 - this one is a bit too small but I will call to discuss options with them.

Any recommendations on who to talk to at either GOG or BG?

thanks...
 
I really like the idea of getting the 3 GOG cushions on video! Come back and post them here! I prefer working with Jonathan when he is available, but his son David has been working in the diamond department as well, so maybe one of them can help you. The diamond in my avatar is from them, and I have been so pleased working with them several times! They are closed on Monday and will reopen Tuesday.

I saw #11122, but I prefer the VS clarity and the ASET on the other stones.
 
jesjammin|1393824842|3626264 said:
Ok, so right now I think I have the following on my short list:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11725/ - my first choice, good size, specs, and ASET seems ok (to me anyhow)

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11562/ - like the Brellia look and ASET, but sightly small

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11122/ - BIG, and nice in small picture, but ASET looks less refined (again, to me). I would put this one in video with the others just to see if it looks good live.

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d.../0.718-f-vs2-cushion-diamond-ags-104068042002 - this one is a bit too small but I will call to discuss options with them.

Any recommendations on who to talk to at either GOG or BG?

thanks...

Definitely get a video made for those 3 GOG options, and request different lighting environments. They really are 3 different flavors of a modern cushion, and it's nearly impossible to get a feel for how light plays inside them without actually seeing it.

You can even speak with them to see if they recommend other options instead of what you have listed there.
 
Thanks for the suggestions. I am definitely open to all the advice I can get for such a major decision as this. I will reach out to the GOG folks tomorrow. I am also going to call JamesAllen and explain what I am looking for. I really like their large selection stones and they definitely seem to give you the most stone for the $ (i assume because they are't carrying the stones themselves), I just wish they had more detail on the way the cushions listed are cut.
 
Buying a cushion from a place like JA is going to be a lot more difficult because you can only choose three stones max for them to provide ASET images, whereas Good Old Gold has chosen the better cushions for their inventory with all images already provided (and they will call in more stones if they don't have what someone wants in stock) and BG has had excellent ones cut specifically for their inventory. I am not seeing any price advantage either. The .91 H VS1's that look halfway decent are $4060 and they face up smaller than the .91 at GOG making the one at GOG the better buy, in my opinion.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/0.91-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-sku-35795

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/0.91-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-sku-251055
 
Hey folks, sorry for the delay in posting. The insurance company ended up requiring a full investigation due to the value of the policy. No problems though, just a ton of additional delay. The good news was that final payout was actually higher than the what the policy listed as the value, so I guess I can't complain much about the delay. In any case, my wife was able to find a nice band and ring setting at a local place, and I ended up getting a larger diamond than I originally planned from Matt at GOG. He did a good job assisting me with info and videos, so I am happy with the experience. I finally settled on a G VS2 1 carat modern cushion. It was not an uber symmetric cut like I originally considered though. I ultimately could not justify the extra cost of Brellia or Jubilee, but I thought the one I picked had good symmetry and the ASET/DiamXray looked very good to me. Here it is:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10911/

I will post pics of the final setting once it is done.

thanks for the help...
 
Very nice stone! Make sure to keep up the insurance on this one too! :wavey:

And we'd love pictures of the final set on her hand!
 
That is a beautiful stone! I am so glad you had a good insurance policy that allowed you to replace the old ring with something really nice!


And yes, we would love to see pictures!
 
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