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My Citrine ring turns out be be sapphire??

Discussion in 'Colored Gemstones' started by LoveRed, May 16, 2018.

  1. LoveRed
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    by LoveRed » May 16, 2018
    A9E6E71A-7B97-4115-9329-3F26574312DA.jpeg CEED4711-82BD-478C-811B-D85B83109F79.jpeg A7E7FCFB-FB22-4B1A-973A-A30EEAC81161.jpeg 7FEF397C-B650-49B4-8850-2C6C9C639AEA.jpeg D470AADD-7C9D-4599-9BB1-5C66E678123F.jpeg I have an old large ring gotten from a lady who would go home to Poland and buy Russian jewelry from women trying to get out of Russia. So it is pretty orange but saw orange looking citrine online. The ring has a very substantial setting, fancy gallery and is between 18-20karat . Went to a couple pawn shops hunting and we started talking stones. He had a tester that has a needle that goes higher as the stones move towards diamond. This registered as sapphire surprising us both. Must be synthetic? But awfully nice setting for fake stone. Input appreciated.!!
     
  2. Allgems
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    by Allgems » May 18, 2018
    Regarding the setting, it looks more like a Soviet era ring, and at that time people (both in Soviet Union and communist Poland) did not have enough financial resources to buy natural gemstones, yet women still wanted beautiful rings, hence cubic zirconia used instead of diamonds and colorfull glass nad created gemstones in beautiful and large settings.

    Are you sure gold is such high karat? Typical Soviet gold found in Poland is 14k (stamped 585 or 583). It has a very special shade of reddish pink (due to high copper percentage) that was only made in Soviet Russia.

    In communist Poland, those reddish gold large stone rings were very recognizable as coming from across the east border, people liked to buy them for investment and gifts (also a kind of status symbol at that time). After the communist time, this jewellry was considered gaudy (maybe also too much of a reminder of the painful era) and nobody wanted to wear it any more. In past 10 years or so there is a trend for some fans to start collecting this jewelry again. Also, recently I saw at least one company in Poland that makes and sells replicas of vintage Soviet jewelry.

    Regarding the stone, maybe it is an orange hydrothermally grown corundum?
    "In the late 1980s and 1990s, Russia became a significant producer of these synthetic (beryl) gems and is still a major supplier of hydrothermally grown gemstones such as synthetic beryl and synthetic corundum, along with others like synthetic diamond and synthetic alexandrite."
    More here:
    https://www.gia.edu/gem-synthetic
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tairus
     
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  3. LoveRed
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    by LoveRed » May 19, 2018
    thank you for all the great information!
     
  4. PrecisionGem
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    by PrecisionGem » May 19, 2018
    I wouldn't put much stock in that type of tester on a colored stone. A simple refractive index measurement would be much more conclusive.
     
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