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Tekate

Tekate

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I am.


European 99.8%
Sub-Saharan African 0.1%
East Asian & Native American < 0.1%

of the European I am 74.6% English&Irish
French & German 4.2%
Scandinavian .5%
Eastern European 7.0%
Broadly European 2.8% (I think that is I'm from everywhere man!) :)

I have less than 4% Neanderthal.

i'm quite the mutt.
 
Haha @Tekate you are hardly the "mutt" or as I prefer "mixed" breed. All my rescues are mixed and they are the best!:appl:
My results were 99.9% Ashkinaze. I wish I was more mixed as that would be way healthier!

  • Ancestry Composition
    • European 100.0%
      • Ashkenazi Jewish 99.9%
      • Broadly European Less than 0.1%
    • East Asian & Native American Less than 0.1%
      • Native American Less than 0.1%
  • Maternal Haplogroup J1c
  • Neanderthal Ancestry Fewer Neanderthal variants than 73% of customers
 
My daughter is adopted-she has been in touch with her birth mother, but that does not shed a great deal of light on the roots of her ethnicity. She is rather proud of being "100% Colombian" by birth, but would like to do one of these kits. I worry about privacy. Once one does this, one's DNA is "out there". I wouldn't do it. But should i advise my daughter not to?

I believe privacy issues were discussed on Pricescope in the past. Was it in the thread Kate couldn't find?

Deb :?:
 
Deb, that is why I won't do it. I have read, though I don't know if it is true, that they have complete control of your DNA and can do with it what they wish. That insurance companies are interested in having peoples DNA. I find it a little bit concerning that you have no way to opt out regarding what happens to it.
 
@missy, what is Ashkenazi? Is that from the tribe of Asher?
 
missy said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews
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I would think that a company that purports to do a DNA analysis of the roots should be able to analyze the roots of what makes up one's being Ashkenaze! A person of Ashkenaze Jewish heritage does not come from Mars. If part of the heritage is European and part is Asian or from the sub-Asian continent, the company doing the analysis should break it down. How lazy can they get? I would be furious simply to be told I was Ashkekenaze. That's not rocket science if one knows who one's grandparents are and one is an Eastern European or German Jew.

Why can they tell what percentage of a person is Neanderthal and not what percentage of an Ashkenaze Jew comes from "The Levant" and what from "German and France" and what from "Eastern Europe"?

My husband, a Sephardic Jew, has blue eyes and light brown/sandy blonde hair. If I were to see his DNA (which I never will) I would like to know where that came from. I don't want to be told he is a Sephardic Jew. He was born and bred in Italy. His parents grew up in Turkey (what was once the Ottoman Empire) after Ferdinand and Isabella threw the Jews and Moslems out of Spain. His parents spoke Ladino (a form of ancient Spanish) at home, a relic of having once been in Spain. But where did the blue eyes and light hair come from? Crusaders?

AGBF

Deb :read:
 
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I was tested a while back. All I remember is a little French and a little cave man, but mostly Irish and Scottish. As a former geneticist, I take these kit tests with a grain of salt.
I am adopted and early on decided looking into the past was fruitless, and lost any interest in the family tree. By the time my persistant DD found my birth family, I was in my 50’s I didn’t really care all that much. After communicating with my birth family I felt very lucky to have been adopted!
But the tests can be fun, and conversation starters!
 
You are not a "mutt" to me @Tekate. :lol:
 
I can certainly understand why people would not do it.. after all it is DNA..

It also was stated that my mom's Halogroup was rare. Of course I've yet to read exactly what that means. (other than the obvious).

I found interesting that my 8th grandmother back was sub-saharan African.
 
I got tested years ago, so my DNA has been out there for a very long time, back in the day they wanted more african american's to join and it was free so I totally did. I had nothing to lose really. But even before that I did cancer study which at the time DNA testing was in its infancy.

@Tekate Generally most will have something from Africa, even in the smallest amounts. wouldn't it be great if we were related? I have something like 1100 family members on there:lol-2:

My results are from the older chip, and I remember hearing they made adjustments

78.8% Sub-Saharan African
16% European
5.2% East Asian & Native American

Then of course those are broken down even further.
Both of my parents were born in the American South, so my numbers are not surprising.
I found plenty of people from my mom side of the family but a few from dad.

You can also take the raw data and upload on GEDMatch. https://www.gedmatch.com/login1.php The breakdown can get a little freaky over there...like I saw some Pygmy:lol:
 
AGBF said:
I would think that a company that purports to do a DNA analysis of the roots should be able to analyze the roots of what makes up one's being Ashkenaze! A person of Ashkenaze Jewish heritage does not come from Mars. If part of the heritage is European and part is Asian or from the sub-Asian continent, the company doing the analysis should break it down. How lazy can they get? I would be furious simply to be told I was Ashkekenaze. That's not rocket science if one knows who one's grandparents are and one is an Eastern European or German Jew.

Why can they tell what percentage of a person is Neanderthal and not what percentage of an Ashkenaze Jew comes from "The Levant" and what from "German and France" and what from "Eastern Europe"?

My husband, a Sephardic Jew, has blue eyes and light brown/sandy blonde hair. If I were to see his DNA (which I never will) I would like to know where that came from. I don't want to be told he is a Sephardic Jew. He was born and bred in Italy. His parents grew up in Turkey (what was once the Ottoman Empire) after Ferdinand and Isabella threw the Jews and Moslems out of Spain. His parents spoke Ladino (a form of ancient Spanish) at home, a relic of having once been in Spain. But where did the blue eyes and light hair come from? Crusaders?

AGBF

Deb :read:
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Yeah I also find it disturbing they use anything besides geographic location.
So if one person is a jew another is Aryan. :blackeye:

Groups like religion and race are slippery slopes.
Creepy indeed.
 
luv2sparkle said:
Deb, that is why I won't do it. I have read, though I don't know if it is true, that they have complete control of your DNA and can do with it what they wish. That insurance companies are interested in having peoples DNA. I find it a little bit concerning that you have no way to opt out regarding what happens to it.
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+1

It's not just insurance companies I'm worried about.
Employers could use this data to not hire people who are genetically-predisposed to develop certain illnesses.
I doubt they can do this today, but perhaps the'll learn how to recognize in DNA how to predict things like IQ, tendency to commit crime, becoming a troublemaking vs. a nice subservient employee.
I've read they suspect being politically right or left lies somewhere in the genes.
Then there are nefarious pursuits of our increasingly-creepy government. :knockout:

This whole thing horrifies me.
I'm astonished anyone sends their DNA off to Big Data and even pays them when they send it in! :doh:
I expect a Hollywood film any day in which this all develops into a horrible future for all of us ... except of course the 0.1% who own everything.
 
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@Arcadian
thanks! when I first saw the .1% sub saharan African, I thought myself, this is why I feel so akin to African Americans and Africans.. then I thought well don't we all have some African DNA because we all came from Africa, but I was a bit surprised actually, as I figured it would say 100% British Isles.. I have french, german, eastern european..!!

My Neanderthal was just under 4% which I was surprised a bit at also.

Seems like a have a gazillion 4, 5, 6, 7 cousins out there in the real world!

we are all here together.. just plodding making it through life.. nice to know some of my ancestors past, but today, I'm happy to be here.

regards.

Arcadian said:
I got tested years ago, so my DNA has been out there for a very long time, back in the day they wanted more african american's to join and it was free so I totally did. I had nothing to lose really. But even before that I did cancer study which at the time DNA testing was in its infancy.

@Tekate Generally most will have something from Africa, even in the smallest amounts. wouldn't it be great if we were related? I have something like 1100 family members on there:lol-2:

My results are from the older chip, and I remember hearing they made adjustments

78.8% Sub-Saharan African
16% European
5.2% East Asian & Native American

Then of course those are broken down even further.
Both of my parents were born in the American South, so my numbers are not surprising.
I found plenty of people from my mom side of the family but a few from dad.

You can also take the raw data and upload on GEDMatch. https://www.gedmatch.com/login1.php The breakdown can get a little freaky over there...like I saw some Pygmy:lol:
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I'm not that important. Anyone can have my DNA, and if they could replicate me, so be it. My tests all come up negative except I could have celiac disease... I like knowing my past. As bots are coming.. being hired is going to be a thing of the past anyway.


kenny said:
+1

It's not just insurance companies I'm worried about.
Employers could use this data to not hire people who are genetically-predisposed to develop certain illnesses.
I doubt they can do this today, but perhaps the'll learn how to recognize in DNA how to predict things like IQ, tendency to commit crime, becoming a troublemaking vs. a nice subservient employee.
I've read they suspect being politically right or left lies somewhere in the genes.
Then there are nefarious pursuits of our increasingly-creepy government. :knockout:

This whole thing horrifies me.
I'm astonished anyone sends their DNA off to Big Data and even pays them when they send it in! :doh:
I expect a Hollywood film any day in which this all develops into a horrible future for all of us ... except of course the 0.1% who own everything.
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Tekate said:
I'm not that important. Anyone can have my DNA, and if they could replicate me, so be it. My tests all come up negative except I could have celiac disease... I like knowing my past. As bots are coming.. being hired is going to be a thing of the past anyway.
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Well Okie Dokie, then. :confused2:
 
Hi,

From what I know, Ashkenaze and Sephardic do refer to geographic locations. Those labels say where you are from.

Deb-- I'm sorry , but I can't resist. Jesus seems to have similar coloring to your husband in all the pictures I see of him.(Jesus). Your husband must come from the Middle east. smiley here

Annette
 
Tekate said:
I'm quite the mutt.
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I'd hate to see mine, I'd be even more of a mutt because my mother has Asian (Chinese), Indigenous Australian and probably a heap of things I don't even know about in there and my fathers family are English, Scottish, German, French and probably a heap of European nationalities I don't know about. I think the only thing not in my DNA would be Native American Indian and even if it was I probably wouldn't be shocked. And my son with his fathers German and Eastern European DNA is even more of a mixture....
 
@missy when you did the test, did it ask if both your parents, and all your grandparents were Jewish? I believe it does, and then groups by that to specific regions.
But I think you have to put all 4 grandparents are of jewish decent to be clustered with ashkenazis from any area.
So it's not like they can separate a Jew or Aryan. There's no specific jewish gene, and if you don't let them know you're jewish, they can't differentiate between you and none-jews from any particular region. At least that's how it was explained to me by someone who took the test. But this was a few years ago.. maybe something's changed..
 
smitcompton said:
Jesus seems to have similar coloring to your husband in all the pictures I see of him.(Jesus). Your husband must come from the Middle east. smiley here
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Hi, there, Annette! It's amazing how all those European painters got his golden curls and blue eyes just right! Actually one of my relatives (Catholic) sent me a beautiful Christmas card a few years ago with a very Semitic and very beautiful looking Holy Family depicted in it. It was artistic and unique. I believe that during certain periods of history artists in Europe were constrained to paint Jesus and Mary only in certain colors. I remember that Mary could only be shown in blue at one point. Maybe someone who studied art history (I never did) could help me out here. Otherwise I would have to do some work and go look it up!

Deb :wavey:
 
I would love to do it if the privacy issues were not there. My grandparents are all gone as are my parents. They were of the generation that didn’t talk about a lot of things. My paternal grandparents were french and native Indian ( Canada) and my maternal grandparents immigrated from Poland. I have always wondered if they were Jewish.
Thanks @missy for the info. Fascinating.
 
I’m a V24, mostly Scandinavia, Ireland, Scotland, Iberia and Tunisia.
 
Hi Deb,

That explains how I couldn't find your husband in the picture of the sit down meeting you showed in another thread. I only saw bald old men. I realize your husband has blond locks and blue eyes. Nowhere to be found.

Sorry, I just had a laughing fit. The picture in my head was so funny.
Goodnite now.

Annette
 
smitcompton said:
Hi Deb,

That explains how I couldn't find your husband in the picture of the sit down meeting you showed in another thread. I only saw bald old men. I realize your husband has blond locks and blue eyes. Nowhere to be found.

Sorry, I just had a laughing fit. The picture in my head was so funny.
Goodnite now.

Annette
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I think that photo I posted was taken in The White House. It was only a metaphor for a room my husband would be found in. He works in the District, but isn't usually called to The White House. He's lucky to be called to The Treasury. Mainly he stays at The Fed. And he is balding now! Well, somewhat! ;))
 
elle_chris said:
@missy when you did the test, did it ask if both your parents, and all your grandparents were Jewish? I believe it does, and then groups by that to specific regions.
But I think you have to put all 4 grandparents are of jewish decent to be clustered with ashkenazis from any area.
So it's not like they can separate a Jew or Aryan. There's no specific jewish gene, and if you don't let them know you're jewish, they can't differentiate between you and none-jews from any particular region. At least that's how it was explained to me by someone who took the test. But this was a few years ago.. maybe something's changed..
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Hi elle, I don't remember that question and I asked my dh who also took the test and he doesn't remember that question either. Sorry I am not able to say definitively though.


luv2sparkle said:
I would love to do it if the privacy issues were not there. My grandparents are all gone as are my parents. They were of the generation that didn’t talk about a lot of things. My paternal grandparents were french and native Indian ( Canada) and my maternal grandparents immigrated from Poland. I have always wondered if they were Jewish.
Thanks @missy for the info. Fascinating.
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Hi Luv2sparkle, you are welcome. That would be interesting to find out. Do you have any aunts and uncles or other relatives who might have already taken the test and might know those answers abut your ancestry perhaps?


arkieb1 said:
That was fascinating, I'm with Deb do you know which part of Europe your family members came from? My husband's family were Prussian (now part of Poland) yet they consider themselves German and were all Nazis (they were not given a choice) in the war but also fled Poland because of the war.
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I do not remember. A common theme in my life these days. I will ask my mom and report back. If I could have convinced my dad to take the test I would have been able to get more info from it but he is not interested.


ceg said:
I am guessing mine would say 100% Texan!
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Hahaha yes that is the real answer. I am 100% Brooklyn. LOL. No wait 90% Brooklyn and 10% Jersey Shore.:lol:
 
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