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Shellcm

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I'm looking to bump up my diamond a little pre wedding. It's from Brian Gavin but against advice here I bought a L. It's just too yellow in some lights. In some it's perfect but looking at wedding bands with diamonds has made the colour even more apparent. I'm just overwhelmed by all the seemingly similar options. I only am bumping up a little, from a L .75 to maybe I/J .85. Should I just give Brian Gavin a budget and tell them to pick for me? I didn't do a great job picking last time, and if I ask for help here the fact that I'm on the other side of the world and can't reserve things until their business day starts many hours later means I worry any recommendation will disappear. I got a signature so what I paid goes 100% toward the upgrade.
 
I would go for something quickly- not because I want to rush your purchase for something important, but because of their 10% off thing which applies to upgrades (I know coz I asked!!) which ends in about 2 days.

Having said that, of course you can still wait for recommendations from pricescopers

Have you ever considered the BGD blue stones? If you're not a fan of fluoro, then I think pretty much any stone from their signature line would be beautiful... what's the budget for your upgrade? Have you seen I/J coloured stones in real life? I should be pretty safe from a tint perspective. J I would only do with fluoro and maybe not in an e-ring as I think it would bother ME as I know I'm super colour sensitive, but am fine with it in a pendant or earrings.
 
Crystal_Dreams said:
I would go for something quickly- not because I want to rush your purchase for something important, but because of their 10% off thing which applies to upgrades (I know coz I asked!!) which ends in about 2 days.

Having said that, of course you can still wait for recommendations from pricescopers

Have you ever considered the BGD blue stones? If you're not a fan of fluoro, then I think pretty much any stone from their signature line would be beautiful... what's the budget for your upgrade?
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I had no idea?? Do you have any more information on it?

I have considered blue but I'm not sure. I like the idea of upping the colour through slight fluro, but am not keen on an actual blue glow. I'm not sure how these stones behave in real life, and I live in a very sunny place!

I don't have a firm budget but it would be nice to keep it around 1K. I paid around 2K for the stone initially.
 
I guess that's why I'm wondering if I should just tell them to pick. I could be discounting the perfect stone if I rule out the blue line.
 
Information on the sale? If you go to their main page, they have a picture saying December in July event :) any little bit helps, right? It ends on the 28th.

What kind of clarity are you looking for?

Perhaps run a search on pricescope as I know there are a few pictures of stones with fluoroesence in sunlight on here to see if you like the look? There aren't many BGD blue stones in the 0.85ct range (a few a little smaller available) at the moment. No point getting one if you don't like the look of a stone like that, but if you don't mind it, it's a great way to make a beautifully cut stone cheaper.
 
I personally love fluorescence and would have no problem going with this which is only medium fl (once they send you the pics but I wouldn't be worried: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...0.834-j-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104094817061

However, I love the proportions of this stone and you would certainly appreciate a size bump! http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...ls/0.875-j-vs2-round-diamond-ags-104094817030

With the promotion, you'd be coming out of pocket less than $1k for both. Ideally, I would ask them if they have any other I color stones. This one would also be a contender but it's an SI1 and I don't like that it just narrowly misses 6mm! http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...ls/0.807-i-si1-round-diamond-ags-104094817031
 
Tried to find some pictures of fluorescence for you. I tend to like it, but not everyone does. I love both the blue glow and how it whitens a stone :)

I believe the BGD blues are screened for any potential hazy/milky effects of fluoro on a stone.

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/strong-blue-fluorescence-in-bright-sunlight.158817/

https://www.pricescope.com/communit...rong-fluorescence-diamond-w-pic.147751/page-2

https://www.pricescope.com/communit...ng-fluorescence-because-its-beautiful.141942/

https://www.pricescope.com/communit...ith-medium-to-strong-blue-fluorescence.75259/

These were all the ones I could find easily. I hope it helps!
 
^^ It will indeed! I didn't list that one before as I thought the other poster I recommended it to a few days ago had placed it on hold so didn't even bother checking it!

I just went and took a video of my J coloured stone with strong blue fluoro to show my brother (because I made him buy a H strong blue). I don't think we can post videos on pricescope yet though, can we? Funnily enough, this was the first time I've ever gone to examine my stone in direct sunlight outside. I've played with the black light plenty of of times to make it glow, but because it's always around my neck when I go out, I've never actually appreciated it under sunlight!

Direct Australian sunlight (hello hole in ozone layer!) gives this baby a BEAUTIFUL (IMO) subtle blue glow that I love!

I tried snapping a few photos for you. Sadly they don't show things as well as a video could, and my iPhone camera and I are a bit lacking in the photography skillls department.


Here is my J BGD blue in direct sunlight showing a pretty blue colour
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Here she is indoors, looking a little warmer in the photo than in real life
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And what I hope will be most helpful to you- here she is next to my e-ring (I THINK this is either an F or a G with NO fluoro)... it's been awhile since I thought of my ering's specs, and also next to a K BGD signature stud with no fluoro. The K is obviously very warm. The J is appreciably whiter than this though still warmer than my F. The difference with the addition of fluoro is much less than expected though!
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If budget is an issue, I would absolutely go with a BGD blue stone to whiten the stone and to bring down the price. Of course, that is assuming you ARE ok with the stone sometimes appearing blue (which I find more flattering than it appearing yellow and tinted). If you are, then that I coloured stone above is what I would totally go for because the bump in carat size and colour will make it a good candidate for using their upgrade policy :)
 
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Crystal_Dreams said:
^^ It will indeed! I didn't list that one before as I thought the other poster I recommended it to a few days ago had placed it on hold so didn't even bother checking it!

I just went and took a video of my J coloured stone with strong blue fluoro to show my brother (because I made him buy a H strong blue). I don't think we can post videos on pricescope yet though, can we? Funnily enough, this was the first time I've ever gone to examine my stone in direct sunlight outside. I've played with the black light plenty of of times to make it glow, but because it's always around my neck when I go out, I've never actually appreciated it under sunlight!

Direct Australian sunlight (hello hole in ozone layer!) gives this baby a BEAUTIFUL (IMO) subtle blue glow that I love!

I tried snapping a few photos for you. Sadly they don't show things as well as a video could, and my iPhone camera and I are a bit lacking in the photography skillls department.


Here is my J BGD blue in direct sunlight showing a pretty blue colour
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Here she is indoors, looking a little warmer in the photo than in real life
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And what I hope will be most helpful to you- here she is next to my e-ring (I THINK this is either an F or a G with NO fluoro)... it's been awhile since I thought of my ering's specs, and also next to a K BGD signature stud with no fluoro. The K is obviously very warm. The J is appreciably whiter than this though still warmer than my F. The difference with the addition of fluoro is much less than expected though!
IMG_1536.JPG

If budget is an issue, I would absolutely go with a BGD blue stone to whiten the stone and to bring down the price. Of course, that is assuming you ARE ok with the stone sometimes appearing blue (which I find more flattering than it appearing yellow and tinted). If you are, then that I coloured stone above is what I would totally go for because the bump in carat size and colour will make it a good candidate for using their upgrade policy :)
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Thanks for that. I'm in Australia too! So it is helpful.
 
@Shellcm thay is totally alright, obviously. I would get one of the Js with fluoro that are within budget. I think that you will see a great color difference. I have had a BGD J no flouro, K with flouro, J with fluoro and my latest is an I. The J with fluoro appeared whiter than the I, but I went for he size upgrade. I think that you will be very happy with a J+ fluoro.
 
Crystal_Dreams said:
Tried to find some pictures of fluorescence for you. I tend to like it, but not everyone does. I love both the blue glow and how it whitens a stone :)

I believe the BGD blues are screened for any potential hazy/milky effects of fluoro on a stone.

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/strong-blue-fluorescence-in-bright-sunlight.158817/

https://www.pricescope.com/communit...rong-fluorescence-diamond-w-pic.147751/page-2

https://www.pricescope.com/communit...ng-fluorescence-because-its-beautiful.141942/

https://www.pricescope.com/communit...ith-medium-to-strong-blue-fluorescence.75259/

These were all the ones I could find easily. I hope it helps!
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I've taken a pic from one of those threads. I do not like the blue glow of the larger stone. The smaller is supposed to be medium blue. So I'm thinking maybe medium blue would be ok?F25F855F-EA03-4B4B-BF55-C724C4D72B6D-6447-00000362C95319DE.jpeg
 
That must be very strong blue with is different than strong. Here are some comparison pics for you j w/ strong blue next to I no flouro.
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I have done the math and conversions to AUD and USD list price of 3100 is my max I think.
 
SimoneDi said:
That must be very strong blue with is different than strong. Here are some comparison pics for you j w/ strong blue next to I no flouro.
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I don't know which is which! I guess that means the flouro is working??
 
The smaller is with flouro. My K had a very strong blue, there is definitely a difference between strong blue and very strong blue. Especially in a solitaire, I would not be afraid from fluorescence, I think that you will enjoy it. If eye-clean (which really most BGD stones are) I would go with this one http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...0.833-j-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104094817058, cheapest, nice spead, fat arrows, medium flouro for a peace of minds :)
 
Shellcm, I think in that picture from another thread, that was an unusually high amount of fluoro even for a very strong blue stone (which is more evident than strong blue). I think you should be safe with a medium one, possibly strong one if you really don't want to see any blue :)

Once the BGD business day starts, I would livechat the staff there and ask to see some photographs of the stone that SimoneDi listed, and also to check whether it is eye clean. If there is any doubt, I would go for

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...0.814-j-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104094817063

which is JUST short of 6mm but should not be an appreciable difference to the eye

or

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...0.834-j-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104094817061

both of which should be eye clean at VS2


Remember that you'll need to pay by wire transfer to get the full 10% off within the next few days if you do choose to go for them.

I have found the BGD staff very helpful and understanding in the past and have not had any issues with wire transfers with them. And I'm sure you're already aware and not sure whether you are purchasing a new setting? or not, but you should ask them to submit the AUSFTA paperwork on shipping if sending a ring!
 
SimoneDi said:
The smaller is with flouro. My K had a very strong blue, there is definitely a difference between strong blue and very strong blue. Especially in a solitaire, I would not be afraid from fluorescence, I think that you will enjoy it. If eye-clean (which really most BGD stones are) I would go with this one http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...0.833-j-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104094817058, cheapest, nice spead, fat arrows, medium flouro for a peace of minds :)
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I don't see any pics, or can you tell arrows etc by the stats?
 
Crystal_Dreams said:
Shellcm, I think in that picture from another thread, that was an unusually high amount of fluoro even for a very strong blue stone (which is more evident than strong blue). I think you should be safe with a medium one, possibly strong one if you really don't want to see any blue :)

Once the BGD business day starts, I would livechat the staff there and ask to see some photographs of the stone that SimoneDi listed, and also to check whether it is eye clean. If there is any doubt, I would go for

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...0.814-j-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104094817063

which is JUST short of 6mm but should not be an appreciable difference to the eye

or

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...0.834-j-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104094817061

both of which should be eye clean at VS2


Remember that you'll need to pay by wire transfer to get the full 10% off within the next few days if you do choose to go for them.

I have found the BGD staff very helpful and understanding in the past and have not had any issues with wire transfers with them. And I'm sure you're already aware and not sure whether you are purchasing a new setting? or not, but you should ask them to submit the AUSFTA paperwork on shipping if sending a ring!
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I'm not getting a new setting, they said they can use my old one :) I transferred to them in the initial purchase and it was fine!
 
Awesome! I guess figure out if the SI1 is eye clean and if not, one of the other two will work nicely?
 
I think it would be lovely, BUT my concern would be that a J without fluoro would still appear tinted. Some people are less colour sensitive than others, but I would personally not go as far down as J unless it had some fluoroescence for my own ering. I'm happy to drop down to that level (or beyond!) for other projects- I do have an L coloured OEC coming, and K coloured earrings, but I'm a bit funny about the ering stone in particular as upgrading mine is not an option. Just my 2c :)

ETA though, I'm quite surprised that the price of that stone is lower than the others in the BGD blue line. Perhaps it was a stone added when prices were lower or something. Is that what is attracting you towards it?
 
Crystal_Dreams said:
I think it would be lovely, BUT my concern would be that a J without fluoro would still appear tinted. Some people are less colour sensitive than others, but I would personally not go as far down as J unless it had some fluoroescence for my own ering. I'm happy to drop down to that level (or beyond!) for other projects- I do have an L coloured OEC coming, and K coloured earrings, but I'm a bit funny about the ering stone in particular as upgrading mine is not an option. Just my 2c :)

ETA though, I'm quite surprised that the price of that stone is lower than the others in the BGD blue line. Perhaps it was a stone added when prices were lower or something. Is that what is attracting you towards it?
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To be honest I'm confusing them all so if it is priced lower I didn't notice. Just that it's a decent size and it was recommended earlier.
 
Just did a chat with someone from BGD and they said it's a no brainer and to get the .833 blue one. I have ordered it and feel relieved. My previous purchase took MONTHS of deciding and this one was so easy!
 
Yay! So glad you've chosen! Be sure to post pictures when it arrives!
 
Ok.. it will most likely be eye-clean, but you can be the judge of that really. I had a much larger stone with a table inclusion and I found it to be eye-clean most of the time.

With that said.. is there any way that you can upgrade to this one: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d....878-i-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104094817055#

I really love that stone and I think that the price diff is worth it.

If that is not an option, how about this one? http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...0.832-j-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104094817062

Perhaps ask bgd to compare the two?
 
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