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rharor

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I am in the process of buying an engagement ring and just looking for some feedback:


GIA:
Round Brilliant
Measurements: 5.52 - 5.54 x 3.25 mm
Carat Weight: 0.60 carat
Color Grade: G
Clarity Grade: Internally Flawless
Cut Grade: Excellent
Proportions
Depth: 58.8%
Table: 61%
Crown Angle: 33.0°
Crown Height: 12.5%
Pavilion Angle: 41.0°
Pavilion Depth: 43.5%
Star Length: 50%
Lower Half: 80%
Girdle: Thin to Medium, Faceted (3.0%)
Culet: None
Finish
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None
Clarity Characteristics
Minor Details of Polish

The HCA Tool shows:
Light Return: Very Good
Fire: Excellent
Scintillation: Very Good
Spread or diameter for weight: Excellent

PriceScope listing

This diamond is going for $2,375.35 and I am adding a setting that's $949.00.
After taking into consideration shipping and wiring the payment total comes to $3,304.61

Thoughts?

She really likes round brilliants in a multi-diamond setting so that's what I'm looking for, something like this. My budget all in is maximum $3,500 inlcuding shipping to Canada, I plan to wire if a discount applies.
 

Niel

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what do you mean by multi diamond? a bunch of little ones? or like 2 side stones?? is that the top of your budget? about 3400?
 

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sorry I meant a bunch of little ones, she dislikes the 2 side-stone setting.

She said this is a a good example of what she likes.
 

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here is a really lovely larger I VS2 clarity from JA. I ran it though the HCA calculator (up in the drop downs under tools) it got a .9, ideally you want something under 2, so thats very good, looks lovely too.
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/0.71-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-149254
also i dont think that takes into consideration the pricescope or wire discounts that you jsut have to ask for... but it may, it does not say.

assuming your budget was about 3500 that would leave you enough for some diamond pave settings
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Halo/14k-White-Gold-Pave-Halo-and-Shank-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-Round-Center-item-6800

http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/18k-White-Gold-Rounded-Pave-Engagement-Solitaire-item-8140



(i apologize you might have to make an account to view these things, but its worth it, it give you vids of the actual stone )
 

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nielseel|1357701775|3350942 said:
here is a really lovely larger I VS2 clarity from JA. I ran it though the HCA calculator (up in the drop downs under tools) it got a .9, ideally you want something under 2, so thats very good, looks lovely too.
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/0.71-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-149254
also i dont think that takes into consideration the pricescope or wire discounts that you jsut have to ask for... but it may, it does not say.

assuming your budget was about 3500 that would leave you enough for some diamond pave settings
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Halo/14k-White-Gold-Pave-Halo-and-Shank-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-Round-Center-item-6800

http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/18k-White-Gold-Rounded-Pave-Engagement-Solitaire-item-8140



(i apologize you might have to make an account to view these things, but its worth it, it give you vids of the actual stone )

I love this idea. This must be a new setting (with their awesome new site). This would make a gorgeous ring!
 

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Right! And such a nice price point when a gal really wants some pave.
I really like that stone too loks like perfection.
If you like it id reserve the stone. Dont want to get that snatched up
 

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Can you link to the one you want for 949? You can drop the clarity a lot to get a bigger stone or save money. In am on a tablet right now so I will look for alternative stones later.
 

rharor

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JulieN|1357706699|3351008 said:
Can you link to the one you want for 949? You can drop the clarity a lot to get a bigger stone or save money. In am on a tablet right now so I will look for alternative stones later.

The $949 one that I took a look at was this : http://www.b2cjewels.com/Diamond-Accent-Settings/Infinity-Diamond-Accent-Engagement-Ring-14K-White-Gold-8220-1.aspx

However she would also like the one nielseel posted:
nielseel|1357701775|3350942 said:
 

rharor

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nielseel|1357701775|3350942 said:
here is a really lovely larger I VS2 clarity from JA. I ran it though the HCA calculator (up in the drop downs under tools) it got a .9, ideally you want something under 2, so thats very good, looks lovely too.
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/0.71-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-149254
also i dont think that takes into consideration the pricescope or wire discounts that you jsut have to ask for... but it may, it does not say.

assuming your budget was about 3500 that would leave you enough for some diamond pave settings
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Halo/14k-White-Gold-Pave-Halo-and-Shank-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-Round-Center-item-6800

http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/18k-White-Gold-Rounded-Pave-Engagement-Solitaire-item-8140



(i apologize you might have to make an account to view these things, but its worth it, it give you vids of the actual stone )


AMAZING! Thanks, I have reserved the stone for now. The setting looks great as well.

I was not aware of a PriceScope discount. I will look into that.
 

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rharor|1357750733|3351345 said:
nielseel|1357701775|3350942 said:

This diamond looks really yellow in the video. Is that something I could see with the naked eye(asking because I'm assuming the video is magnified)?

I compared it to this just as an example of colour: http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/0.64-carat-D-color-VS2-clarity-sku-177320

haha - sorry you can't compare a D to an I! Of course you'll see a difference!! If you want a smaller stone, then the D is gorgeous.
 

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Is are still considered colorless. Try to view it from the top, the sides or back will show more color. Most people when set may see thay its not as white as say a d, but ive not heard anyone with an I complain. It is a minute concession but I think its way less noticable than a .6 to a .7
 

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nielseel|1357751295|3351350 said:
Is are still considered colorless. Try to view it from the top, the sides or back will show more color. Most people when set may see thay its not as white as say a d, but ive not heard anyone with an I complain. It is a minute concession but I think its way less noticable than a .6 to a .7

Touche, most will only see the top anyway.
 

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nielseel|1357701775|3350942 said:
here is a really lovely larger I VS2 clarity from JA. I ran it though the HCA calculator (up in the drop downs under tools) it got a .9, ideally you want something under 2, so thats very good, looks lovely too.
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/0.71-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-149254
also i dont think that takes into consideration the pricescope or wire discounts that you jsut have to ask for... but it may, it does not say.

Should I be concerned about the feather in this stone? I think there is one on the girdle: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B2ovrz1R0E_9ZHBNanhla19kVU0
 

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rharor|1357772610|3351609 said:
nielseel|1357701775|3350942 said:
here is a really lovely larger I VS2 clarity from JA. I ran it though the HCA calculator (up in the drop downs under tools) it got a .9, ideally you want something under 2, so thats very good, looks lovely too.
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/0.71-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-149254
also i dont think that takes into consideration the pricescope or wire discounts that you jsut have to ask for... but it may, it does not say.

Should I be concerned about the feather in this stone? I think there is one on the girdle: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B2ovrz1R0E_9ZHBNanhla19kVU0

That's the inscription. It's where they put them...
 

Niel

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rharor|1357757928|3351430 said:
nielseel|1357751295|3351350 said:
Is are still considered colorless. Try to view it from the top, the sides or back will show more color. Most people when set may see thay its not as white as say a d, but ive not heard anyone with an I complain. It is a minute concession but I think its way less noticable than a .6 to a .7

Touche, most will only see the top anyway.

right. Think of it this way. You know how some paper seems white until you put it next to an REALLY white piece of paper, then it looks a little eggshell? Doesnt mean that on its own it doesnt seem white enough, or white enough to satisfy your needs. D's are really very very wnite, so comparing anything to them is going to not seem as white.
 

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rharor|1357740792|3351195 said:
nielseel|1357701775|3350942 said:
here is a really lovely larger I VS2 clarity from JA. I ran it though the HCA calculator (up in the drop downs under tools) it got a .9, ideally you want something under 2, so thats very good, looks lovely too.
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/0.71-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-149254
also i dont think that takes into consideration the pricescope or wire discounts that you jsut have to ask for... but it may, it does not say.

assuming your budget was about 3500 that would leave you enough for some diamond pave settings
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Halo/14k-White-Gold-Pave-Halo-and-Shank-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-Round-Center-item-6800

http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/18k-White-Gold-Rounded-Pave-Engagement-Solitaire-item-8140



(i apologize you might have to make an account to view these things, but its worth it, it give you vids of the actual stone )


AMAZING! Thanks, I have reserved the stone for now. The setting looks great as well.

I was not aware of a PriceScope discount. I will look into that.


I would do this exactly! It is a nice setting with a pretty diamond. Better then the options you were looking at. Personally a D VS2 is a waste at that carat weight. RB's do a great job of masking imperfections in a diamond. You can drop down to an eyeclean SI and save money. Who cares if you can see in imprefection with a 10x loupe as long as it is eye clean. And with the I color no one will notice unless she puts it up to a D diamond...you will also find that many woman actaully prefer lower color diamonds. I personally find them to have a more romantic look to them then DEF.
 

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rharor|1357740792|3351195 said:
nielseel|1357701775|3350942 said:
here is a really lovely larger I VS2 clarity from JA. I ran it though the HCA calculator (up in the drop downs under tools) it got a .9, ideally you want something under 2, so thats very good, looks lovely too.
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/0.71-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-149254
also i dont think that takes into consideration the pricescope or wire discounts that you jsut have to ask for... but it may, it does not say.

assuming your budget was about 3500 that would leave you enough for some diamond pave settings
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Halo/14k-White-Gold-Pave-Halo-and-Shank-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-Round-Center-item-6800

http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/18k-White-Gold-Rounded-Pave-Engagement-Solitaire-item-8140



(i apologize you might have to make an account to view these things, but its worth it, it give you vids of the actual stone )


AMAZING! Thanks, I have reserved the stone for now. The setting looks great as well.

I was not aware of a PriceScope discount. I will look into that.


I would do this exactly! It is a nice setting with a pretty diamond. Better then the options you were looking at. Personally a D VS2 is a waste at that carat weight. RB's do a great job of masking imperfections in a diamond. You can drop down to an eyeclean SI and save money. Who cares if you can see in imprefection with a 10x loupe as long as it is eye clean. And with the I color no one will notice unless she puts it up to a D diamond...you will also find that many woman actaully prefer lower color diamonds. I personally find them to have a more romantic look to them then DEF.
 

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Sarahbear621|1357777022|3351674 said:
rharor|1357740792|3351195 said:
nielseel|1357701775|3350942 said:
here is a really lovely larger I VS2 clarity from JA. I ran it though the HCA calculator (up in the drop downs under tools) it got a .9, ideally you want something under 2, so thats very good, looks lovely too.
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/0.71-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-149254
also i dont think that takes into consideration the pricescope or wire discounts that you jsut have to ask for... but it may, it does not say.

assuming your budget was about 3500 that would leave you enough for some diamond pave settings
http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Halo/14k-White-Gold-Pave-Halo-and-Shank-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-Round-Center-item-6800

http://beta.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/18k-White-Gold-Rounded-Pave-Engagement-Solitaire-item-8140



(i apologize you might have to make an account to view these things, but its worth it, it give you vids of the actual stone )


AMAZING! Thanks, I have reserved the stone for now. The setting looks great as well.

I was not aware of a PriceScope discount. I will look into that.


I would do this exactly! It is a nice setting with a pretty diamond. Better then the options you were looking at. Personally a D VS2 is a waste at that carat weight. RB's do a great job of masking imperfections in a diamond. You can drop down to an eyeclean SI and save money. Who cares if you can see in imprefection with a 10x loupe as long as it is eye clean. And with the I color no one will notice unless she puts it up to a D diamond...you will also find that many woman actaully prefer lower color diamonds. I personally find them to have a more romantic look to them then DEF.

agreed. "Better" in regards to color is subjective. Yes you could say it is "whiter", but that doesnt necessarily mean it is more appealing to the eye or is what you are looking for. its priced higher because it is rarer and in theory more desirable, but their general assessment of consumer wants doesnt mean thats what you want, or really that its al that important to you. if you want stark white then you for colorless, if you want a nice looking stone, theres no reason one with a softer white doesnt fit that description.

i dont know if you saw, but they have some pics of other peoples rings they have made in that setting, here is one with a .6 ct.
and i think the photos they do dont really do them justice

engagement-rings-pave.jpg
 

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I went out last night to a local jeweler that I found had great reviews to find something similar. As a newbie to all of this I thought it may be a good idea to see some actual rings and I found that some that were even lower in color and clarity were still very good to the naked eye. I was quoted $4,500 with a cash payment discount for a .67 carat with lower color and clarity rated by AIG in a similar setting. So I am going to go ahead and purchase the suggested setting above by nielseel today.

Diamond:----------------$2,720
Setting:------------------$900
pricescope discount:--($190)
wire discount:----------($51)
TOTAL---------------$3,379

Thanks everyone for your invaluable help with this. I look forward to seeing this ring now :)
 

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rharor|1357824621|3352017 said:
I went out last night to a local jeweler that I found had great reviews to find something similar. As a newbie to all of this I thought it may be a good idea to see some actual rings and I found that some that were even lower in color and clarity were still very good to the naked eye. I was quoted $4,500 with a cash payment discount for a .67 carat with lower color and clarity rated by AIG in a similar setting. So I am going to go ahead and purchase the suggested setting above by nielseel today.

Diamond:----------------$2,720
Setting:------------------$900
pricescope discount:--($190)
wire discount:----------($51)
TOTAL---------------$3,379

Thanks everyone for your invaluable help with this. I look forward to seeing this ring now :)

:appl: :appl: :appl: :appl: :appl: Love to see this happen!!!! Good luck and be sure to come back with pictures!!
 

Niel

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Thats great! Its going to be fabulous! Please post some pics when you get it home
 

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Looks amazing. Again thank you very much everyone!

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Niel

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Holy wow :love: :love:

This looks fantastic!!! The last thing I would think is " budget friendly!!"
 

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That ring is beautiful! Please post hand shots after you propose! Congratulations!
 
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