Khalil Mahmoud

[Lookinagain]

However, the sheer magnitude of illegal immigration happening in the last four years (I believe it was 6,500 people per day) makes due process for every case, practically speaking, impossible. So we are stuck with everyone who paid to get here. Research this fact.

Yes, it would certainly take a lot of time to give all some level of due process, but we can't ignore a constitutional right, just because it's inconvenient. I know that you said that you would like to see a change to the 5th and 14th Amendments to eliminate those rights for the undocumented, but I would not. The founding fathers knew the English language quite well, and if they meant for those to only apply to citizens, they certainly knew the word. But they chose the word person instead. They had their reasons. I think another Amendment that carves illegal immigrants out of the 5th and 14th would be unlikely to be ratified by 38 states. I know the immigration bill that didn't pass called for the hiring of many more immigration judges. That certainly would help with the process. Maybe some of all those billions for immigration that are in the bill that just passed the senate will be used to hire a large number of immigration judges to speed things up. Not sure though as immigration judges are employees of the DOJ and not Homeland Security and I think those funds are for border security, but I could be wrong.

You say " so many Americans don’t seem to value responsible, law abiding, loyal citizens, instead they doggedly support anyone who can get here!". They are not mutually exclusive. I don't think anyone is saying they don't value law abiding citizens, what they are saying is they also value the protections the Constitution affords. You can value both.

 

[Rockdiamond]

It’s a lot of private entities we are paying (correct me if anyone has facts on this). I hope we’ve got reporters and watch dogs.

Brad Lander, a candidate for NYC mayor and the comptroller, was doing exactly that, and he was handcuffed and arrested by masked men.
If he can get arrested being a watchdog, what does that say for the press- or anyone.
If the prisoners don't have water?? Tough
Let them fight for it - I've read reports that this is already happening.

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

It’s very likely going to be privatized. The privatization of border crossings and immigrant temporary shelters (also privatization of prisons) led to abuses, not just related to any political party.

It’s a lot of private parties we are paying (correct me if anyone has facts on this). I hope we’ve got reporters and watch dogs.

We don't have reporters or watchdogs. They were abolished by the current administration. This will be your future for profit drain on society, without the benefit of the 100 billion in yearly taxes we were paid by all those immigrants.
Bad fiscal move for the actual people.

This is really puzzling to me. I say this sincerely but also with alarm and frankly annoyance that so many Americans don’t seem to value responsible, law abiding, loyal citizens, instead they doggedly support anyone who can get here!

Illegal immigrants do have Constitutional rights, it appears that they even have due process rights when it comes to being deported.

However, the sheer magnitude of illegal immigration happening in the last four years (I believe it was 6,500 people per day) makes due process for every case, practically speaking, impossible. So we are stuck with everyone who paid to get here. Research this fact.

The last administration tried to place 1000 more judges to handle the volume, the other party blocked that happening

This is also true and extremely relevant to our current situation. Dems did not fix things when they had the chance.......

How were they to do so without control of Congress?
They tried and presented the most comprehensive border bill ever in 2024. It was voted down by the other party so it could be used for the current President to campaign.

 

[Rockdiamond]

How were they to do so without control of Congress?

From 2021-2023 they did. And the absolute hubris from dems got us where we are. The terrible truth is the dems are not able to counter what's going on. They prove it daily.
The more people try to trash the guy who won the NYC mayoral primary, the more popular he'll become.
The swings of the pendulum have gotten beyond excessive......

 

[autumngems]

This is really puzzling to me. I say this sincerely but also with alarm and frankly annoyance that so many Americans don’t seem to value responsible, law abiding, loyal citizens, instead they doggedly support anyone who can get here!

Illegal immigrants do have Constitutional rights, it appears that they even have due process rights when it comes to being deported.

However, the sheer magnitude of illegal immigration happening in the last four years (I believe it was 6,500 people per day) makes due process for every case, practically speaking, impossible. So we are stuck with everyone who paid to get here. Research this fact.

There’s also a massive contrast between the privileges (a massive drain on social services) of illegal immigrants and their no strings attached presence (few obligations to the USA, but often obligated to illegal or off the books economies) versus the people who are living here on Work Visas, or who were admitted as legal.

So why would Americans NOT support changes to the Constitution to eliminate the laws helping immigrants who walk or swam to our country versus the ones who waited in line. All they have to do is get here?

Also, why would Americans be fighting for illegal immigrants to remain off the record and unscrutinized?

Correction: US military veterans get $300 Billion per year while illegal immigrants get roughly $200 Billion in government services and USAID non-profit funding.

At minimum, we need a process to register and scrutinize undocumented citizens, and I would be joyful if there was a process to allow those who have been working to work on the books in an organized way, with sponsorships, like proper Visa Holders. I believe immigrants enrich annd revitalize our country.

I think we need a Constitutional challenge on the current laws allowing anyone to cross any border and get protections and privileges.

Will Durant states that "Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty and dies with chaos". While advocating for liberty, Durant also cautioned about the potential for chaos if liberty turns into "license". This suggests a need for a balance between freedom and order to maintain social stability. (AI summary)

Well said

 

[Lookinagain]

That’s why I think we need a Constitutional challenge to clarify. It does not make any sense to allow immigrants to get here by any means necessary, then have no way to send them home without a legal challenge.

There is a lengthy string of SCOTUS cases on this already. All say some form of due process is needed. If SCOTUS were to do a reversal on that precedent, they'd be reversing themselves (which generally never happens when all the Justices are the same). It is pretty clear from the unanimous decision in the Albergo Garcia case that they all agree that some form of due process is necessary. And getting a unanimous decision from this court is not all that common. So given that you'd need a Constitutional Amendment, and, as I noted, getting 38 states to ratify is unlikely.

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

My support of due process is primarily because I also want to protect the citizens of this country. Either it is absolute or it is not. If not, it can't be relied on by citizens in the future.
It was announced back in April that the administration was openly requesting to build prisons in El Salvador for American citizens.

Quoted again today as saying

"Many of them were born in our country. I think we ought to get them the hell out of here, too, if you want to know the truth. So maybe that'll be the next job that we'll work on together."
He calls them Homegrowns

I want due process to protect them from being unceremoniously deported to foreign prisons.

 

[Lookinagain]

My support of due process is primarily because I also want to protect the citizens of this country. Either it is absolute or it is not. If not, it can't be relied on by citizens in the future.
It was announced back in April that the administration was openly requesting to build prisons in El Salvador for American citizens.

Quoted again today as saying

"Many of them were born in our country. I think we ought to get them the hell out of here, too, if you want to know the truth. So maybe that'll be the next job that we'll work on together."
He calls them Homegrowns

I want due process to protect them from being unceremoniously deported to foreign prisons.

Which ties into the Birthright Citizenship case pending.

 

[nala]

This exactly. No one else finds it scary that an overreaching entity can just decide to disappear you one day? It certainly scares me

My support of due process is primarily because I also want to protect the citizens of this country. Either it is absolute or it is not. If not, it can't be relied on by citizens in the future.
It was announced back in April that the administration was openly requesting to build prisons in El Salvador for American citizens.

Quoted again today as saying

"Many of them were born in our country. I think we ought to get them the hell out of here, too, if you want to know the truth. So maybe that'll be the next job that we'll work on together."
He calls them Homegrowns

I want due process to protect them from being unceremoniously deported to foreign prisons.

Admin is already discussing denaturalizing citizens and deporting US born citizens.

 

[telephone89]

Anyone who wants to change the constitution to discriminate further against immigrants but not to adjust gun policy for the modern times has no basis in reality.

It’s just that easy when it’s a brown person threatening the constitution? What about sandy hook? People were not willing to even look at changing anything when children were gunned down in elementary school, but all of a sudden it is just NBD?

 

[LightBright]

Admin is already discussing denaturalizing citizens and deporting US born citizens.

The discussion on denaturalizing citizens is by DOJ in a memo and pertains to US naturalized citizens who both lied during naturalization and are being prosecuted for certain serious crimes. I don’t have knowledge of this, only passing on further info. Denaturalization for this reason (for being convicted or lying about having been convicted of certain serious crimes) would require a Supreme Court challenge (I’m guessing).

 

[Lookinagain]

The discussion on denaturalizing citizens is by DOJ in a memo and pertains to US naturalized citizens who both lied during naturalization and are being prosecuted for certain serious crimes. I don’t have knowledge of this, only passing on further info. Denaturalization for this reason (for being convicted or lying about having been convicted of certain serious crimes) would require a Supreme Court challenge (I’m guessing).

Actually, he talked today about U.S. born citizens too. Bolding is mine.

Speaking to the press during a tour of a migrant detention center in the Florida Everglades, . . . repeated claims that there are many immigrants who are now citizens and have been committing serious crimes.

"They're not new to our country. They're old to our country. Many of them were born in our country. I think we ought to get them the hell out of here, too, if you want to know the truth," he said. "So maybe that will be the next job."

 

[telephone89]

The 6 year old with leukemia who was arrested by ICE was released. His family was here legally, seeking asylum when they were rounded up after an immigration hearing. I'm glad they are free, but it just goes to show they are cherry picking the easy targets - literally the people showing up for their immigration court dates. I'm sure someone will say this 6 year old was a gang member and show some photoshopped pics of his bad ass tats though

Honduran family, 6-year-old with leukemia released from ICE detention

The family is among a growing number of people detained despite entering the country legally during the Biden administration.

www.usatoday.com

 

[waffle]

A few additional thoughts if I may in the hope for honest and open dialogue
Please read with an open mind
Consider the possibility what I’m sharing is true because it is

You have billions amplifying the fake narrative of “genocide” on every platform.
Every . Single. Day.

You have 15 million Jews, and only a SMALL percent even speak up.
Why? because they’re scared.
Most are professional people.
Most just want to enjoy their lives in peace without fear and hate

You have huge “influencers” watching a few clips of the aftermath of Israeli bombs and calling it a “genocide.”
None of them have watched the massacres of our women and children on October 7th.
The event that started this war.

Additionally, a large number of people actually believe 9/11 was committed by Jews
and not those who literally confessed.
Their evidence…easily disprovable conspiracy theories.

Think about who controls the narrative by numbers alone.
Due to rules I’m not mentioning the groups who control the narrative
But think about it


We, as Jews, have no organization working for the greater good.
No huge influencers or funding. Not a single one that’s actually effective.
The bad guys have hundreds of well funded organizations simultaneously working together in unison.
We not only don’t own the media. We are pathetic at it.
PR is not something we try to be good doing because foolishly we think the truth should be good enough

The Qatari machine has billions to throw at this effort every year, along with a massive media empire
Buying influence, infiltrating every level of our society.Buying belief.
Buying “facts.”
When you finally recognize the truth, you will be horrified.


Individual Jews can be bad, just like any demographic. Of course
However, 99.99% of Jews just want to live their lives in PEACE.
That’s the truth.

Why does anyone have to die?
None of us want this
But one must defend oneself
There is no other option
Unless we’re ok with our extinction
And surprise surprise
That’s not ok with us

If you were in our position
Would that be ok with you?

Thank you for reading and for keeping an open mind
All any of us want, pray for, is peace
This. Is. The. Truth

Absolutely! Could not have said it better myself!!!!