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Is this a good diamond and fair price?

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SO and I went to a jeweler today and was quoted $7800 for this diamond.
Would you say the price is good and would you purchase this diamond?

1.2 carat
Triple Excellent
E color
Si1 clarity
Faint fluorescence
 
Can you post the gia cert?
 
A quick google search of the certificate number shows two other places asking for more money for the same stone.
 
I'm so sorry, but the angles on this diamond are not good at all. It will tend to get grey and look loveless. Its going to be pretty leaky. The price reflects that lack of performance. Not a diamond we would recommend around here. We use GIA Excellent as a starting point, but its pretty wide including some amazing stone and some rather not amazing ones.

These are measurements to help you stay in ideal cut territory with a GIA excellent cut stone.
table: 52-57.5
depth: 60-62.3 {consider 59.5)
crown angle: 34-35.0 (up to 35.5 crown angle can sometimes work with a 40.6 pav angle)
pavilion angle: 40.6-40.9 (sometimes 41.0 if the crown angle is close to 34)

Then, run those four numbers through the HCA tool and reject anything greater than 2.0 (1.0 not better than 1.9, this is used to simply reject stones). Anything left, that meets your clarity and color needs is worthy of requesting images IS/ASET.

Here are a few options assuming a max of $8000 for the diamond.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4268912
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4270766
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3589561 {lists additional clouds so needs to be reviewed by the JA gemologist for any impact on light return}

You would need to request an idealscope image (IS) that you can post here. That will tell you the volume of light return.

Example
upload_2018-1-20_20-37-5.png
 
I agree with rockysalamander that you can get a better cut diamond. Unfortunately GIA excellent cut is a very wide range, so the numbers she gave you will help steer you into the better cut stones.
 
No need to say sorry at all! Your advice was much much appreciated. SO and I have been looking at so many different diamonds lately, my head is beginning to spin. Your recommendations look great for our price range.

I'm so sorry, but the angles on this diamond are not good at all. It will tend to get grey and look loveless. Its going to be pretty leaky. The price reflects that lack of performance. Not a diamond we would recommend around here. We use GIA Excellent as a starting point, but its pretty wide including some amazing stone and some rather not amazing ones.

These are measurements to help you stay in ideal cut territory with a GIA excellent cut stone.
table: 52-57.5
depth: 60-62.3 {consider 59.5)
crown angle: 34-35.0 (up to 35.5 crown angle can sometimes work with a 40.6 pav angle)
pavilion angle: 40.6-40.9 (sometimes 41.0 if the crown angle is close to 34)

Then, run those four numbers through the HCA tool and reject anything greater than 2.0 (1.0 not better than 1.9, this is used to simply reject stones). Anything left, that meets your clarity and color needs is worthy of requesting images IS/ASET.

Here are a few options assuming a max of $8000 for the diamond.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4268912
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4270766
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3589561 {lists additional clouds so needs to be reviewed by the JA gemologist for any impact on light return}

You would need to request an idealscope image (IS) that you can post here. That will tell you the volume of light return.

Example
upload_2018-1-20_20-37-5.png
 
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