Is this a good deal? I''m trying to learn.

[cheapsk8]

I am in thr process of shopping, and I really like this site. Please post your opinions on my potential purchase.
Details:

Carat 1.22
Color H
Clarity VS2
Depth 60.8%
Tbl 56%
Lab GIA
Gdl thn-m
Cul no
Sym ex
Pol ex
Flr no
34 degree crown angle
43% Pavillion depth

Setting is platinum bezel set, with 66pts around bezel and on shank (Similar to endless love)

7K for stone
2500 for setting

Thanks your your input.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

The vital #'s for the cut are the 43% and 34 crown angle.
they seem to be rounded and I suggest they may be a guess.
If the stone is set you can do an ideal-scope test on it still - but it can not have the angles measured (GIA do not easily give out the vital info).

You can ask the retailer about the ideal-scope - but many resist it because few stones on the market look good through it.
Read about it under TOOLS at top of this page.

 

[diamondsbylauren]

An H/VS2 1.22? You're NO cheapskate in my book!

The size of 1.22, and quality of H/VS2 means that you are looking at a very "in-demand" diamond.
"Five grainers" ( this is an industry term for carat and a quarter stones) are very hard to find, and in high demand.

as such, the price is by no means "cheap" rather I see 7K as a very legitimate price for such a stone in today's market.


Garry and I have widely differing opinions on ideal scopes and the like-
I do not feel that anything short of a visual examination will allow you to know if you love the diamond or not- but based on the GIA report info you've posted, I'd say it's a good bet that the diamond is quite nice.

Have you actually seen the diamond?


Are you set on the bezel set- a stone of that size will lose some of it's visual size appearance, as well as not allowing as much light thru as tradional prongs.
But there again-if you love the setting $2500 for a platinum ring with diamonds set into it is not out of line.

Hope this helps!

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Have you ever looked through an ideal-scope David?

 

[noobie]

I agree a bit with both Garry and David. I just recently purchased an ideal scope.




I bought four stones on-line based on specs and supplied ideal-scope pictures. The idealscope pictures were execellent. When I received them, my eyes confimed that they were very beautiful.




I bought another diamond based on great specs. When I got it, it wasn't just right. The idealscope showed that it wasn't a top performer, even though the specs were execellent. (suspect bad sarin data). Back it went




So, in my case, my eyes confirmed the idealsope and the idealscope confirmed my eyes.




Oh, cheapsk8t, the stone looks like it could be nice and fairly priced, but I would check it with an idealscope if you can't get better specs.

 

[diamondsbylauren]

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On 10/18/2004 5:26:50 PM Garry H (Cut Nut) wrote:

Have you ever looked through an ideal-scope David?----------------

I've used a number of pink plastic thingies so I really can't say for sure. I've called a buddy that has one -I will have it here tomorrow. I'll look at it objectively.

 

[cheapsk8]

Thanks for the input. All of the numbers have been communicated over the phone, but before I started using this site, I saw the stone and it looked great to my eye. This price is still pre-negotiation, but it is through a oft-used jeweler of a friend, so I just wanted to do a sanity check. I can't believe how much I think I've learned by reading the posts. Now the fun begins.

 

[diamondsbylauren]

Cheapskate- Sounds great- please keep us informed.


Garry

I apologize to anyone that might object to this statement- The ideal scope is a total waste of time.
Actually, it's worse than a waste of time.
Tools which are not effective in their assigned tasks can actually be far more dangerous than having no tool at all. Folks could potentially pass on a good stone, or misread this "tool" and get duped into a less than stellar diamond.

Let me repeat what I said- IF A SELLER DOES NOT ACCOMODATE YOU IN YOUR REQUEST TO USE THE IDEAL SCOPE, AND YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE- WALK ON. Yet, it would be easy to concieve of how an experienced diamond person would take issue if a "layman: walks in with this "tool" and trys to prove that a diamond which the seller believes is a good cut is not.
Consumers need to use thier eyes and look at a diamond naturally.

As I wrote yesterday, I was not sure if I'd used this particular device- but now that it's here, I can remember that I have tried an ideal scope in the past.

Today I looked at some amazing diamonds which this little toy says are no good- like this one for example- a 5.04 J/VS1 Radiant- with a drop dead cut. According to "pinky" the stone is leakier than a 50 year old tea bag. Yet, everyone that has seen this diamond shares my response- WOWOWOWOWOWOW. It's really an amazing cut- despite the ideal scope results

I also used it to look at an AGS0 cut round diamond. Again, I see no value at all to this device- a standard H&A veiwer is much easier to use, and as far as I'm concerned the stone is far better viewed with a standard loupe and at arms length.


Of course pay no heed if you don't like T-Rex ( I'm a dinasaur)