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sgruning

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I went to one store and the guy was trying to sell me an enhanced stone. I said, oh a diamond with a face lift. No thanks.

I am now
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looking at a loose stone.
Round - Good
Daim. 6.290 mm
Depth 4.10 mm 65.2% G
Crown 35.3 16.0% EX
Pavillion 41.3 44.8 EX
Table 3.4 mm 54.8% EX
Cutlet 0.6% V.Small EX
Girdle 3.1% neduyn % thick EX

Price 4,900
Thoughts?
 

avlis

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first thought is.. not enough informations.. you didnt mention carat weight, color(G posssibly) or clarity. Now assuming a round brilliant, initial thoughts are, its a bit deep, which will look smaller for its size and reduce light return. do you have any more info you can post?

[edit] did he say what was enhanced or how???
 

Ordieth

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Hello. I am not sure if this will help any, but the HCA gives this diamond a 4.8 (Good - Only if price is your main criterion). Good luck in your search.

Maybe look at this one from Jamesallen (HCA = 1.2)?
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Shape: Round
Carat weight: 0.92
Cut: Ideal
Color: G
Clarity: VS2
Certificate: GIA
Depth: 61.4%
Table: 55%
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Girdle: Thin to medium
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 6.28*6.30*3.86
Crown Angle: 34.5°
Crown %: 15.50
Pavillion Angle: 40.8°
Pavillion %: 43.00
Price: $4900

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131&item=964504

On paper, it is very comperable
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sgruning

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I am sorry, for the diamond info above, here is a little more info -
it is 1.01
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SI2

The enhanced I believe were with ions? In regards to the enhanced, he could sell me a 1.18 for $3,500 - Color g and a SI1 - the think is he was guessing at these. They were not listed and not certified. I really didn't much more info than that.
 

sgruning

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Can you believe it is no longer available ALREADY?
 

Ordieth

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sorry about that.

Try this one on for size. It still matched your original specs pretty closely, it's better color, better clarity, and has a higher HCA rating (which might be off a little due to the Thick Girdle.) But at $4400 it is about 500 cheaper than the original post you gave.
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http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131&item=944128
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Shape: Round
Carat weight: 1.00
Cut: Fair
Color: F
Clarity: SI1
Certificate: GIA

Depth: 64.3%
Table: 54%
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Girdle: Thick to very thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 6.22*6.29*4.02

Crown Angle: 35.0°
Crown %: 16.50
Pavillion Angle: 40.4°
Pavillion %: 42.50


But this is just some of the things that I have pulled off the PS search bar up top. Give it a try, and see if you can't find better. Personally, I like the smaller diamonds that sparkle more because they look bigger because of it. I hope this is helping a little.
 

avlis

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i would go wiht somthing more like this:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2137/

$4500 +/-
Shape: Round
Carat Weight: 0.91ct
Color: G
Clarity: SI2
AGS Cut Grade: Ideal (estimated)
GIA Cut Grade: Excellent
est GIA Cut Grade: Excellent
est AGS Cut Grade: Ideal
AGS Light Performance: Ideal
Optical Symmetry: Superior
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: Negligible
Girdle: 1.59%
Culet: None
Lab Report: GIA
Lab Report #: 15045249
In House: Yes
Width: 6.18mm
Length: 6.24mm
Depth: 3.83mm
Table Percentage: 56.27%
Depth Percentage: 61.70%
Crown ∠: 34.34°
Crown Depth: 14.81%
Pavilion ∠: 40.95°
Pavilion Depth: 43.21%
Upper Girdle ∠: 43.51°
Lower Girdle ∠: 42.20°
Policy: Lifetime Guarantee

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sgruning

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Very nice, I am checking it out.
 

gailrmv

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In answer to your original question, I wouldn''t buy it. I''d get the biggest ideal cut stone I could for the same $$$.
 

Lorelei

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Susane, good thing the first diamond is no longer available, it would likely not be the most attractive diamond by some of the numbers. The diamond posted from Good Old Gold is far more the sort of thing to consider - good pick Avlis! The G VS2 that Ordieth listed has possibilities too. I would also say to read the tutorials on cut too, it would be a big help.
 
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