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  1. Elwa14
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    by Elwa14 » May 26, 2019
    Hi everyone! I'm hoping that you could help me figure out whether there is an issue with my diamond. I've copied the GIA report details below.

    The diamond looked great in the jewelry shop, and I've attached a photo of it in that light (the background is a light blue and my nails are painted dark in that photo).

    The other photos are from various times, some when I was trying the ring on with wedding bands. In certain lights it looks ok (fluorescent, it seems), but it almost always seems to look incredibly cloudy, especially in the center, in other light. I've cleaned the ring thoroughly several times, but to no avail - it always seems to look worse in photos than it does looking directly at the ring, but it certainly does not have the same sparkly look as it did in the shop.

    Do you have any thoughts as to what's happening? Is it just poor ring quality? Thanks for your thoughts!

    IMG_0133.jpg IMG_0152.PNG IMG_0155.PNG IMG_0156.PNG

    Cushion cut modified brilliant
    7.14 x 6.72 x 4.69 mm
    Carat Weight
    2.01 carat
    Color Grade
    J
    Clarity Grade
    SI1
    Depth
    Table-to-culet depth, expressed as a percentage of average girdle diameter for round shapes or width for fancy shapes.
    69.9 %
    Table
    67 %
    Girdle
    Thick to Very Thick, Faceted
    Polish - Very Good
    Symmetry - Good
    Flourescence - None
    https://www.gia.edu/otmm_wcs_int/pr...TIMG&IMG_NO1=9EF32FC4DFEAA0156495A011D70B853E

    Culet
    None
     
    


    


  2. astaeria
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    by astaeria » May 26, 2019
    I’m not an expert on this, but based on the GIA diagram it looks like there are multiple “clouds” (which are the red dotted ovals) right in the center of the diamond, combined with the SI1 clarity, I think that could be the main cause of your diamond looking cloudy.

    From the GIA website,

    Cloud
    Many tightly grouped pinpoints that might be too small to distinguish individually but together have a hazy appearance.

    In my opinion it does not seem like a problem with your ring, but rather the diamond itself.

    Maybe the other PSers can chime in with better ideas!
     
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  3. Garry H (Cut Nut)
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    by Garry H (Cut Nut) » May 27, 2019
    I think the answer is yes, it is likely cloudy and dull because there appears on the plot to be very few easily seen inclusions in the plot.
    But the ledger of inclusions is still a secret - please post ALL the info.
    And of course it would be good to see a photo under the diamondto see if it is dirty.
     
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  4. tyty333
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    by tyty333 » May 27, 2019
    I also think that the cut may be causing the cloudy look. When you cleaned it did you get the bottom
    side of the stone really well? Try taking it to a jeweler and having it cleaned.

    Are you within the return window by any chance?
     
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  5. Elwa14
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    by Elwa14 » May 27, 2019
    Thanks, everyone! We’re unfortunately outside of the return window. Is it possible that the diamond could really look this differently in the shop versus outside?

    I soaked the ring and used a gentle brush, but am not sure whether I was able to remove all dirt from the bottom, could that be causing an issue?
     
  6. Elwa14
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    by Elwa14 » May 27, 2019
    Thank you, Gary! Where would I find the ledger of all inclusions? The GIA report included a note of “pinpoints not shown.”

     
  7. Kaycee2018
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    by Kaycee2018 » May 27, 2019
    Yes, it is very possible for diamonds to look vastly different under jewelry store lighting vs. real world lighting. Jewelry store lighting is designed to make even subpar diamonds look good. As others noted, if you can post the entire info on the report (particularly the clarity list and comments), that would be helpful. But the clouds depicted under the table could definitely be a cause for concerns of cloudiness.
     
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  8. SimoneDi
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    by SimoneDi » May 27, 2019
    Yes, even an MRB can look a bit hazy if not clean. My first thought when seeing your diamond is that it needs a good clean. This is one of my favorite, easy to use jewelry cleaners: Blitz Gem and Jewelry Cleaner 8 oz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F1MXOK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_4Z-6CbWEB2QYX
    Once you finish cleaning it, dry it with a hairdryer.

    Also, as others suggested, can you please share what are the primary inclusions as noted on the report?
     
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  9. Elwa14
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    by Elwa14 » May 27, 2019
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    Thank you! I’ve now posted all of the parts of the report here.


     
  10. Garry H (Cut Nut)
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    by Garry H (Cut Nut) » May 27, 2019
    Then I would have a jeweller check for fire staining or a lot of dirt under prongs.
    When clouds are 3rd on this long list they should not be a major issue on an SI1
     
    


    


  11. arkieb1
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    by arkieb1 » May 27, 2019
    It looked like it needs a good clean to me too try soaking in windex for several hours (I swear it works) and then the toothbrush with just really hot water.... if it's still cloudy then yes it's clouds in the diamond....
     
  12. Iwanttosparkle
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    by Iwanttosparkle » May 27, 2019
    @Elwa14 I do think it is possible. At 1:35 in this video he starts talking about haziness. At about 4:40 all he does is change the lighting and the haziness disappears. Perhaps the store you bought it at had this same type of diffuse lighting.



    This gentleman from Good Old Gold (I'm sorry I don't know his name) has many informative videos on his youtube channel. I have learned a lot from him.
     
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  13. Elwa14
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    by Elwa14 » Jun 5, 2019
    Thanks, everyone! I had the ring cleaned and it is looking MUCH better, thanks for your help!

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  14. tyty333
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    by tyty333 » Jun 5, 2019
    Thats great @Elwa14 ! Because fancy cuts dont usually have the light return of rounds you have to keep them really clean. A lot of Pricescopers
    clean their rings daily if not every few days.

    Hot water, dawn dish detergent, and a toothbrush work well for me but you need to do it often. Once the grim builds up you will need a deeper cleaning.
    I also have a steam cleaner and an ultrasonic but use those more for deep cleaning.

    Pave should not be put in ultrasonics. Apparently, it can shake the melee loose.
     
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  15. JPie
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    by JPie » Jun 5, 2019
    Glad it was a simple fix!
     
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  16. Wink
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    by Wink » Jun 5, 2019
    I was going to post that it looked like it had some "finger gooky" on the bottom of the diamond. I am happy to see that you got good advice here and then found that it was indeed as simple as a trip a jeweler for a good cleaning.

    Wink
     
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  17. partgypsy
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    by partgypsy » Jun 5, 2019
    I'm glad all it needed was a good cleaning! Looks much better!
     
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