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FMIL has called FI this week about the following issues:

1) She''s upset that she''s not listed as the hostess to the RD. -- She''s NOT the hostess. She said she WOULDN''T pay for it. So we are. And guess who is listed as the host? NOBODY. We sent out the invitations while she was on a cruise to Bermuda. Number of times she mentioned the RD between telling us she wouldn''t pay for it and receiving her invitations? ZERO. I''m not quite sure how it was going to get planned if I hadn''t done it. She certainly showed no interest before.

2) She can''t believe that he didn''t ask Mr. So-and-So, family friend of 30 years, to do a reading in the wedding. She hasn''t mentioned it at all in the previous 14 months but M "should have known". Well, I''ve met the man ONCE, the programs are already PRINTED, and the only reading we are including has ALREADY been assigned. She''s going to blow up when she finds out my mom is doing it, but M and I decided it would be fitting based on the reading and my mom loves to speak in public... plus she''s paying for the whole reception. And she''s nice to M.

3) She is upset that she''s not getting her hair done at the same place that the bridesmaids are. M called to ask her to make her own appointment to suit her schedule and she told him repeatedly that I''d already made her appointment while he tried to tell her that in fact I had asked him to call her because she DIDN''T HAVE AN APPOINTMENT. I have 10 slots and they are all taken. So she made an appointment. Then she cancelled it and made her appointment somewhere else, but made another appointment for her granddaughter, who is my jr. bridesmaid and ALREADY HAS an appointment as she''s with the bridal party. She insists that only SHE knows how the 10 year old should have her hair done, but honestly the 10 year old has been telling me how she wants to wear her hair for the past year and I think she can tell the stylist herself.

4) She told M that he''s being "rail-roaded" on this wedding because she can''t see that he''s making just as many decisions as I am. She doesn''t like the decisions so he must be forced to agree to them or something. He says he does NOT feel this way.

Things he can''t bear to mention to her yet, lest she scream some more...

1) she''s upsetting M. Every SINGLE time she calls he screams when he hangs up the phone. He''s stressed out, not sleeping, and having stomach problems and he says it''s all because of her. This is no way to treat her son right before his wedding.

2) The song she picked out for the Mother-Son dance has uncomfortable romantic tones to it and M won''t agree to it... but he can''t figure out how to tell her because it will start another argument, nor does he have any other suggestions because he really doesn''t want to dance with her considering how she''s treating him.

3) If she has decided that she DOES want to be the hostess for the RD, she already owes us $2000, not including the food, because we planned it without her and made our own decisions, re: flowers, chartered bus, and a band, plus the full-color invitations.


I just can''t take much more of this and he''s at the end of his rope. He won''t let me call her to discuss it because he''s trying to protect me from her but I''m just about to give it back to her... She is just, UGH, so infuriating. I really wish she would get mad enough to not come, but I think she''ll get just mad enough to make sure EVERYBODY hears about it.

His bestman is his brother and I begged him to call him and ask him to step in but he can''t get in touch with him for some reason.

ugh.
 
Ok...sweetie you vented. You are supposed to have some release when you vent. That is what the word means. Now, grab hold of that release. You own it. Take it. Breathe.

One thing at a time, but most importantly...this is YOUR wedding. You have made the decisions because IT IS YOUR WEDDING. Don''t recoil when someone points that out...Think to yourself...DUH? Of course I made the decisions.

Next, THIS IS YOUR WEDDING. Who you want reading or signing or chanting is your business. The fact that it is your mother is absolutely perfect. You need to make no apologies for NO one. It isn''t you job to make sure every family acquaintance in all of history is included in YOUR WEDDING. It is her- the MIL''s job to make sure that person is aware that she is glad they are friends...it IS NOT YOUR WEDDING THAT IS THE REWARD for their friendship.

Onward...THIS IS YOUR WEDDING...it is apparent that you are towing the whole wagon where the FMIL is concerned...it isn''t her choice. And frankly, even if she was paying...it is YOUR CHOICE...as this IS YOUR WEDDING.

I believe the success of her coif is now your responsibility? HOGWASH. THIS IS YOUR WEDDING...the wedding party gets their hair done together...no need to have ALL THE MOTHERS AND GRANDS AND AUNTS getting the same frantic salon to meet and make the deadline and also do a great job! You did your part, she refused to heed your advice an suggestion...leave it. You vented...remember? She is a big girl and has made it all these years getting her hair done without you. She will be fine.

About the incestuous song...can you make it a instrumental? If you are uncomfortable...and she wants the song...IT IS YOUR WEDDING...remove the words. Or...the music sheet got mixed up...left behind...I don''t care what excuse you give her. As poopy as she had been...I would she has no deposit in the nice favor bank to withdrawal from.

Get an answering machine...screen your calls. Keep that man in peace. That is your job to be his helpmate. If it is hurting him to that level...I would park a semi trunk at my doorstep to keep him separated from that muck. No more calls. Can''t talk now...going to bed early...no more calls after 7:00. I am not kidding. SPAM BLOCKER FOR YOUR LIFE.

Not sure if I mentioned this yet or not...THIS IS YOUR WEDDING. Own it. I AM (WEDDING)woman...hear ME roar!! Roar!! Come on....let it out!! ROAR!!!

DKS
 
ah, DKS... thank you for talking me down from the ledge! You really have a gift, you know?

I''m going to see if iTunes has an instrumental version of the song and I''m going to ask him not to answer the phone anymore. I don''t know if he''ll comply, but if I tell him I''ll have done something to soothe a little, I hope. She has the important information, she doesn''t really need to ask anything else at this point.
 
sumbride, we have two gun cases in the basement, filled.....I''m jus sayin.





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JUST KIDDING!


I don''t really have advice (dk gave you lots of good stuff), just wanted to hopefully make you smile.
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W... she''s really being difficult- oy. Like planning a wedding isn''t difficult enough without all the drama... along with the Bridezilla show they totally need a Famzilla!
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I really can''t fathom why she thinks she should have been listed as the host to the RD?
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Odd.

I don''t get that some people don''t get the bride and groom make decisions based on what they want for their own wedding. It''s cool if people offer suggestions- but to dictate what should be done and get all bent out of shape when the couple doesn''t follow that person''s ideas/orders?
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It seems she wants to be "included" but only when it''s her way; you try to include her and she refuses.

How would she know what M wants regarding the wedding? She obviously isn''t listening and I''m sure she hasn''t asked... seems her main concern is having it done her way? Sheesh... this isn''t Burger King and it''s not her wedding.

Even though he''s really upset when he talks to her, I think it might be a good idea that you aren''t discussing these things with her since she already thinks you''re railroading him. If she''s being irrational and refuses to enjoy and be excited that you two are planning to commit your lives together, there is not much advice I can give you but just let it roll off you like water off a duck''s back (I know, easier said than done)... continue being patient and continue to stand your ground, continue to support each other and let each other vent about these frustrations and just love that woman with all her faults (as exhausting as it may be).

As for the song, I would straight up say something like, "Mom, that is a song that talks about the type of that couples in love have for each other... the lyrics aren''t about the type of love a mom and son have for each other... maybe we could find a song that expresses that." Based on her previous behaviour, yeah, she''ll prob''ly flip out, but at least you two have tried.

and tried.

and tried.

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Sorry you are going through this! She sounds like a very difficult person (who is going to cause you stress for years to come!) Hopefully you and your FI can distants yourself until after the wedding. I am sure she is reacting to her son''s marriage and it probably has NOTHING to do with you. She has her own issues.
 
Date: 9/22/2007 3:23:50 PM
Author: door knob solitaire

Get an answering machine...screen your calls. Keep that man in peace. That is your job to be his helpmate. If it is hurting him to that level...I would park a semi trunk at my doorstep to keep him separated from that muck. No more calls. Can''t talk now...going to bed early...no more calls after 7:00. I am not kidding. SPAM BLOCKER FOR YOUR LIFE.

DKS

I totally agree with DKS on this. You two need to be enjoying this time before you wedding. You''re getting ready to make the greatest commitment to eachother and this time should be happy and spent with people who are supporting you. Minimize all time spent on you FMIL. She''s working against the two of you, not with you. I would not answer the phone at all when she calls, both of you, since it''s making your FI upset and you might flip out
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And when you do have to see her, be the polite one. Glue a smile on your face, calmly explain that you''re doing ''whatever thing'' the way you want because that is what you and FI want. She''s not paying for it right? She has no say.

You can do it Sumbride. Be strong and be the better woman, because she sounds like she is being so childish throwing fits. Good luck sweetie! And congratulations on your wedding in 2 weeks!!!
 
I truly, truly feel for you regarding the FMIL. She sounds like a future-monster-in-law. I know that was a bad joke, but I tried.
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In any case, hopefully venting here helped a bit. Honestly, some people just amaze with their behavior. Sometimes family and weddings are not a good mix sad to say. Unfortunately I think you are going to have grit your teeth and get through the next 14 days, unless you feel the better option is to just go off on FMIL. Maybe going crazy on her will shut her up. It doesn''t appear that anyone is calling her on her atrocious behavior and perhaps you are the one that needs to do that. Short of that, I don''t really know what the best solution is to the overall problem. However, I do have one piece of advice regarding the mother-son dance. Should your FI decide to actually go through with that part, have the DJ/band play a more appropriate mother-son song that you and your FI both prefer. Your FMIL will be none the wiser. The music will play, it won''t be the inappropriate song she requested, but she''ll (hopefully) have enough sense to plaster on a smile and get through it.

Hang in there!!!!
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Thank you! I''m smiling a lot more now after reading these posts because I don''t feel so alone anymore. FI is unfortunately quite used to her irrational behavior and says calling her on it will only make it worse. As in "can''t rationalize with a crazy person."

We did locate an instrumental version of the song and he''s thinking that might work. At least it would end the discussion for now. Afterwards, it will be too late to fix. "Oh, you wanted the lyrics? We thought you would prefer the one that doesn''t tell the world you''re infatuated with your son." or something like that...

M has agreed not to answer her calls for today. He is still unsure of the concept because he is used to her attacks and is almost a glutton for punishment at this time. I appreciate him taking the heat so I don''t have to, but I don''t want him suffering either. This is where brother/best man/father of the 10 year old comes into play. He needs to talk to her about the hair appointment for the jr. bridesmaid, not M. M doesn''t have any concept of how long it takes to get hair done and it''s not his responsibility.

I have a bottle of champagne in the fridge and I''m breaking out the toasting flutes tonight. We both could use a few glasses!
 
I''m sorry this is happening, especially so close to the wedding! Just out of curiosity, what song did your FMIL pick out?
 
Date: 9/22/2007 4:02:40 PM
Author: sumbride
I have a bottle of champagne in the fridge and I''m breaking out the toasting flutes tonight. We both could use a few glasses!

That was going to be my suggestion. Can you guys turn off all your phones and just sit, drink good wine, and not talk about the wedding for a few hours? It seems like spending some couple time away from all the stress would help a lot. Also, do you guys have a punching bag? Those are GREAT for getting frustration out.

Best of luck, and listen to DKS. A lot. Teach M the "My Wedding" roar and roar at him randomly. Or don''t teach it and still roar. You''d be surprised at how much a well-timed roar can cheer you up. I make claw hands and roar just for the fun of it sometimes.


ROOOOOOOAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR
 
Date: 9/22/2007 4:02:40 PM
Author: sumbride
''can''t rationalize with a crazy person.''

He is 100% right! DH being a landlord has taught us that lesson! Still it is normal to get frusterated. That is awesome that your FI seems to agree with you. Sometimes people can be so defensive of their families. Enjoy the day FMIL free and know none of us mind you venting.
 
No more advice here, but just wanted to say that I''m sorry your FMIL is being a pain in the butt. You''re almost there though!
 
It''s the "love theme" from the movie Picnic. Imagine this sung in a suggestive tone. FI said "ewwww..."

"It must have been moonglow, way up in the blue
It must have been moonglow that led me straight to you
I still hear you sayin'' "Dear one, hold me fast"
And I keep prayin'' "Oh lord, please let this last"

"We seemed to float right through the air
Heavenly songs seemed to come from everywhere

"And now when there''s moonglow, way up in the blue
I''ll always remember that moonglow gave me you."
 
Date: 9/22/2007 5:21:35 PM
Author: sumbride
It''s the ''love theme'' from the movie Picnic. Imagine this sung in a suggestive tone. FI said ''ewwww...''

''It must have been moonglow, way up in the blue
It must have been moonglow that led me straight to you
I still hear you sayin'' ''Dear one, hold me fast''
And I keep prayin'' ''Oh lord, please let this last''

''We seemed to float right through the air
Heavenly songs seemed to come from everywhere

''And now when there''s moonglow, way up in the blue
I''ll always remember that moonglow gave me you.''

Umm...ick. I can''t believe this woman! If she isn''t hosting the dinner, why in God''s name does she think her name should be on the invites? I mean, seriously! So sorry you have to deal with this before your wedding. But I think you''ve been offered great suggestions here, and I don''t really have any other ideas to add...I hope you can manage to avoid her until the wedding...and maybe afterwards, too! Yikes!
 
That song just gave me a creep attack.

*big hug*
 
Date: 9/22/2007 5:30:03 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 9/22/2007 5:21:35 PM
Author: sumbride
It''s the ''love theme'' from the movie Picnic. Imagine this sung in a suggestive tone. FI said ''ewwww...''

''It must have been moonglow, way up in the blue
It must have been moonglow that led me straight to you
I still hear you sayin'' ''Dear one, hold me fast''
And I keep prayin'' ''Oh lord, please let this last''

''We seemed to float right through the air
Heavenly songs seemed to come from everywhere

''And now when there''s moonglow, way up in the blue
I''ll always remember that moonglow gave me you.''

Umm...ick. I can''t believe this woman! If she isn''t hosting the dinner, why in God''s name does she think her name should be on the invites? I mean, seriously! So sorry you have to deal with this before your wedding. But I think you''ve been offered great suggestions here, and I don''t really have any other ideas to add...I hope you can manage to avoid her until the wedding...and maybe afterwards, too! Yikes!
Double ick!!! I feel badly for you, hoping you can avoid her, and just enjoy your day sweetie. Hang in there!!!
 
Date: 9/22/2007 5:21:35 PM
Author: sumbride
It''s the ''love theme'' from the movie Picnic. Imagine this sung in a suggestive tone. FI said ''ewwww...''


''It must have been moonglow, way up in the blue

It must have been moonglow that led me straight to you

I still hear you sayin'' ''Dear one, hold me fast''

And I keep prayin'' ''Oh lord, please let this last''


''We seemed to float right through the air

Heavenly songs seemed to come from everywhere


''And now when there''s moonglow, way up in the blue

I''ll always remember that moonglow gave me you.''
*scrunches nose and dittos the "ewwww"*
 
OK, I'm going to be generous and suggest that FMIL might be honing in on the line "moonglow gave me you", which might be a might be a nice motherly sentiment taken by itself. The rest of the song, however, is another matter entirely. One listing identifies the "moonglow" scene in the movie Picnic as a seduction scene:

http://www.spaceagepop.com/amfilm.htm

So no, not appropriate for a mother-son dance!

Maybe your FI can convince his mother that the song should reflect his sentiments toward her? Or at least that they should share in the selection, since they're sharing the dance?

Here's a list of M-S dance selections from somewhere in cyberspace:

http://www.makeweddings.com/music-lists/mother-son.jsp

And BTW good luck with that FMIL. She sounds like a handful...
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eww.... even more now!

i haven''t seen the movie but I really don''t want to now that I have this vision in my head.


She did not call again today! woo hoo! We finished the bottle of champagne and then put a bit of a dent in our bottle of grey goose over dinner. Later we popped in our bleaching trays (a wedding present from a dentist friend!) and watched a movie together. I think we''re both feeling a little more relaxed now.

Of course, there''s still 13 more days.
 
It really stinks to have to do this now, but she is clearly a drama queen/control freak and will always find something to be upset about.

One, her hair is not your problem. If you offered and were turned down, you are done. Can you get the ten year old away from her and get her to the salon?

If the song is icky, than find something else that is appropriate. DO NOT TELL HER, but tell the person you are paying to play it, and your hubby will go to get her for the dance, and low and behold, a different song will be playing. I do not care what she chose, if you guys do not like it, override her, quietly, and move on.

She is NOT the host of anything, especially if she is not paying. Period. She can bitch and moan, but too bad. You need to have a phrase you can just keep repeating to her, EVERY TIME she starts in, like, Clearly you are upset, FMIL, but this is our wedding and this is how things are going to be.

I would brook NO argument, engage in NO discussions with her. If she starts, change the subject, or get off the phone. It takes two, and if you are not engaging with her, she cannot do it alone. It is hard not to get sucked in, but really make that effort not to, it will only cause issues.
 
I didn''t read the other posts yet, so I may be reiterating here... but I am all for hanging up the phone. If she is really shaking him up that much then he needs to either lay down the law or take a break from talking to her. My MIL and I have now started to understand each other a little better, but she was similar (although not AS bad) with DH. He basically limits his phone calls with her now, and when we go to our hometown we split the time up between there and my mom''s house so as to keep his stress level down. It''s not ok for her to do this, and while I don''t think there is much you can say to her, he has every right to call her out on the way she is acting.

*M*
 
Date: 9/22/2007 5:21:35 PM
Author: sumbride
It''s the ''love theme'' from the movie Picnic. Imagine this sung in a suggestive tone. FI said ''ewwww...''


''It must have been moonglow, way up in the blue

It must have been moonglow that led me straight to you

I still hear you sayin'' ''Dear one, hold me fast''

And I keep prayin'' ''Oh lord, please let this last''


''We seemed to float right through the air

Heavenly songs seemed to come from everywhere


''And now when there''s moonglow, way up in the blue

I''ll always remember that moonglow gave me you.''
um... gross. yea. that''s all.

*M*
 
Oh Summer, I think I have a great solution. How about we introduce your FMIL and my Crazy Aunt. Then we kidnap the two of them, and send them on a romantic vacation via slow steamer ship to South Georgia Island in Antarctica (think: rocks, ice, -30 degrees, howling winds, and penguins) where they can complain to each other about how horrible we are to their hearts content). We can then arrange for the ship to pick them in about 6 months.

It sounds like they would get along so great! Plus, think of the useful survival skills they would learn. Haha. I am a bad girl and am enjoying this image.
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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this though.
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Indy - I would so love to do that. Originally she had planned to take this 3 week cruise, getting back about 4 days before the wedding, but she was worried she''d be cutting it too close... ahhh, how I wish she hadn''t changed her mind!

FI is off to the game today and won''t be back for several hours. I think he''s feeling a little better now. My massage therapist found a few new spots in my shoulders today... she said "this wasn''t there last week." and I said "yeah, I know..."
 
Ugggghhh...and, ewwww (the song). I''m glad you found an instrumental version to play!

But it could have been worse. Much, MUCH worse. You might have decided to have the wedding in "her" territory! I can only imagine the battles royale that would have resulted in.
 
Date: 9/23/2007 12:27:43 PM
Author: Selkie
Ugggghhh...and, ewwww (the song). I''m glad you found an instrumental version to play!


But it could have been worse. Much, MUCH worse. You might have decided to have the wedding in ''her'' territory! I can only imagine the battles royale that would have resulted in.

So true! It''s not accident that we decided to have it a thousand miles away, in MY home turf. She complains all the time about the number of people my parents invited, keeping in mind that she invited NOBODY. I think we''re getting the wedding WE want, even if it is much larger than we had in mind originally. At least she will be outnumbered and possibly diluted!
 
Aww, Summer, hun, I am so sorry to hear about your future freak of a mother-in-law! I swear, what is this world coming to???

I think you got great advice here, and I know I''m late to the thread, but I think you have a very level head on your shoulders and you will get through this...though I do like Indy''s suggestion to ship her off with her crazy aunt...GREAT idea...can we send my mom along, too?

Good luck, and just try to enjoy this time before your wedding!
 
Date: 9/23/2007 12:39:13 PM
Author: sumbride
At least she will be outnumbered and possibly diluted!
LOL!
 
I just realized a pattern here. All of her issues are with her in the center of attention. Hostessing in print shows HER importance...using HER Friend would show her connection/standing....HER hair at same place makes her as special...HER dance with her son would make her the center of attention.

You didn't mention her disagreeing with the serving dishes...the fabric...or color...it is all issues concerning Her and what others will think of her. All of these issues are all she has to hold on to. She isn't able to let go of the limelight and stand in the shadow...and allow this day to be yours and your grooms. She is frantically grasping and looking for a foothold somewhere. I wonder, if this woman is pain. Could her actions be because she is feeling abandoned and of no importance. I am beginning to have pity for her...and less anger
(of course it is not my wedding
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my progress in understanding has no merit here...only your peace is important).


Could there be any validity to that view? I hope that view brings you some sort of explanation/understanding for her actions.

DKS
 
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