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I Wouldn't Normally Consider a CE Stone....

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  1. Andelain
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  2. Andelain
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    by Andelain » Feb 12, 2014
    ARRRRGH, they took the pictures down!

    Here's the specs...


    Shape: Round
    Carat Weight: 0.83ct
    Color: E
    Clarity: SI2
    Optical Symmetry: August Vintage
    Polish: Ideal
    Symmetry: Ideal
    Fluorescence: None
    Lab Report: AGS
    Lab Report #: 1040394320004-
    In House: Yes
    Width: 5.90mm
    Length: 5.94mm
    Depth: 3.86mm
    Table Percentage: 50.09%
    Depth Percentage: 65.33%
    Crown ∠: 34.50°
    Crown Depth: 17.70%
    Pavilion ∠: 40.75°
    Pavilion Depth: 44.14%
    Policy: Lifetime Guarantee

    It was graded SI-2 before they got it enhanced.
     
  3. PattyCo
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    by PattyCo » Feb 12, 2014
    The center diamond of my engagement ring has had a bit of "coughcoughenhancementcoughcough". I have had it for 9-ish years and have had no trouble. I even got it from eBay for a steal, LOL!

    I tried the link you posted and it says the item is on hold, I hope that was you and not a lurker.


    Warm regards,
    PattyCo
     
  4. Andelain
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    by Andelain » Feb 12, 2014
    Yeah, I did that. I know better than to post something here without having it on hold. :naughty:
     
    


    


  5. PattyCo
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    by PattyCo » Feb 12, 2014
    True dat!!!

    And please tell us the "story" of this one, too, I just love happy endings :D
     
  6. Upgradable
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    by Upgradable » Feb 12, 2014
    I think there's a big difference between bleaching one bitty carbon spot, and permanently freezing together a glob of spit.

    That might have been too visual?
     
  7. Andelain
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    by Andelain » Feb 12, 2014
    That's what I was thinking. The pics are back up, including an 'after' pic. Here's a 'before'.

    pic1_17.jpg


    Any opinions, now that you can see it? :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:
     
  8. tyty333
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    by tyty333 » Feb 12, 2014
    So it only has drilling to clean the carbon out and not any filler? If the price is right than I say go for it!
     
  9. teobdl
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    by teobdl » Feb 12, 2014
    Just make sure that whatever jeweler might work on that ring knows that it's CE. if they bring a torch near it and it has a filling, it might explode. There's some great threads in PS archives about CE diamonds, including when GOG first started selling a couple of them in their AVR line.
     
  10. Laila619
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    by Laila619 » Feb 12, 2014
    Looks really nice!!
     
    


    


  11. justginger
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    by justginger » Feb 12, 2014
    +1. There's enhancement, and then there's enhancement.
     
  12. kindred
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    by kindred » Feb 12, 2014
    Is it filled or just drilled?
     
  13. Wink
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    by Wink » Feb 12, 2014
    While I prefer not to, I have sold a few CE diamonds in the past, and even had one drilled and enhanced for a client which was recorded on the live presentations we used to be able to do here many years ago.

    When done for the right reasons and with full disclosure, there is nothing inherently wrong with CE or laser drilling or both.

    Wink
     
  14. arkieb1
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    by arkieb1 » Feb 12, 2014
    I think when it is done right by a reputable place and it is guaranteed it is fine. The ones that are done on the cheap in places like China that are fracture filled with a resin that ends up looking like frozen spit after a year or two are not so great.
     
  15. Andelain
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    by Andelain » Feb 12, 2014
    Just laser drilling and acid bleaching of the once-black inclusion.
     
    


    


  16. Andelain
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    by Andelain » Feb 13, 2014
    I can't find them. Any chance you have links?
     
  17. Ashleigh
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    by Ashleigh » Feb 13, 2014
    It looks awesome and at a good price too. :appl:
     
  18. Andelain
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    by Andelain » Feb 13, 2014
    Thank you. Yeah, $3100 makes it mighty hard to walk away from an 83 point AVR. :Up_to_something:
     
  19. Asscherhalo_lover
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    by Asscherhalo_lover » Feb 13, 2014
    Drilling and bleaching doesn't bother me nearly as much as filling. Go for it!
     
  20. Tekate
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    by Tekate » Feb 13, 2014
    Andelain, I think it will make an awesome pendant! (as I"m into pendants :)

    nice buy.
     
  21. Andelain
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    by Andelain » Feb 13, 2014
    It's actually going in a ring I already have that needs a change. :Up_to_something: :naughty: :appl:
     
  22. Circe
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    by Circe » Feb 13, 2014
    I think it's a beautiful stone, and an invisible drill hole wouldn't stop me for a second! I do draw the line at fracture-filing, I think, because I'd live in perpetual dread of it turning on me. But this? SCORE! :appl:
     
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    by ariel144 » Feb 13, 2014
    For an AVR/AVC...on a budget I wouldn't hesitate to get one of these awesome disco balls. Go for it. No one will know but you anyway.
     
  24. diamondseeker2006
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    by diamondseeker2006 » Feb 13, 2014
    This is the one kind of exception I would personally make! great buy, Ande!!! :appl:
     
  25. marymm
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    by marymm » Feb 13, 2014
    It really is about your comfort level as to CE - the stone I would guess performs as an AVR should - and the price reflects the CE treatment.

    While not quite the same, I've tried to get on-board with a clarity-treated Colombian Emerald, a clarity-treated Ruby, and even a lab Ruby, and though they were beautiful to my eyes, once in my hands and considering settings, etc., it turns out they are not "mind clean" for me.

    Good luck with your decision - and if you go forward with the purchase, I look forward to hearing your thoughts and seeing hand shots!
     
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    by teobdl » Feb 13, 2014
    https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/good-old-gold-clarity-enhanced-diamond.170492/page-4
     
  27. PattyCo
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    by PattyCo » Feb 18, 2014
    Soooooo, did you go for it?
     
  28. Andelain
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    by Andelain » Feb 20, 2014
    I do too, especially for a ring. I'm so hard on mine, you'd probably cringe at the scratches in my YG WF ACA ring. Just recently I took a lighter to somone's filled diamond earring and melted the glass out. With thier permission, of course. It was an ugly sight, and very educational to the people in the room when I did it.

    Yeah, I agree. SCORE!!!!! :appl: :appl: :appl: :appl: :appl: :appl:

    And oh, will you be surprised when you see what it's going in...... :Up_to_something: :naughty:
     
  29. Tekate
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    by Tekate » Feb 20, 2014
    Rings are even BETTER! I love ringssssss! can't wait to see it!


     
  30. Andelain
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    by Andelain » Feb 20, 2014
    OK, the story..... :Up_to_something: :Up_to_something: :Up_to_something: ;))

    I had this ring made a while back, https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-custom-whiteflash-ring-is-here.156794/ . The ring is so well made, but I just didn't love it. I finally gave in to the realization that I just don't like the second half of the alphabet until around W-Z colors. Never have, and with a few exceptions, never will. I'll admit I'm a color whore, I'll pay extra for a D in a heartbeat. The stone in this ring is about P-Q brown IMHO.

    So I considered options. Find a stone off in the fancy range, put a sapphire in the ring, get the stone irradiated.... I'd settled on the third option, I was going to get it irradiated to a brownish yellow, and probably still will. Then, as I have a bad habit of doing, I was browsing the usual suspect's websites. I got to GOG's, and saw that had an AVR that was within the tiny range of sizes that would fit this ring. And an E! :love: The wheels in my head started churning, and I clicked the link. Oh, pretty..... pretty ..... pretty. Wait, what's that ferris wheel looking picture on this page, oh it's on sale? HOLY CRAP, LOOK AT THAT PRICE!!! :-o :o Guess I'm going to find out how an AVR will look in this ring! :bigsmile: Emails started flying back and forth to the States, and now the ring is enroute GOG
     

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