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Cehrabehra

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I have been here for over 4 years.

Losing the opportunity to be acknowledged by getting the 10k bonus gift I saw so many other people receive over the years was disappointing.

Not even being acknowledged by Pricescope Admin is a slap in the face.
 
Hey Cehra ... I realize you're upset. I think you might be overestimating how *quickly* anyone from PS responded on any other 10K thread. Some times it took *weeks*. If I recall correctly. I wouldn't take it personally, hun.
 
Cehra, I'm sorry you're feeling hurt. I've always enjoyed reading your posts and will continue to do so. Live strong in yourself, and congratulations!
 
Sara-

I'm glad you said what was on your mind. Those of us who were here for a long time and saw other people reaching 10,000 postings assumed that one day we would have the chance to do that, too. I empathize. You really are valued here by many people, however. Please hang onto that knowledge!

Hugs, love, and deep respect,
Deb/AGBF
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Cehra,

Sorry about how your feel. FWIW, I've been on here for 7 years and when I reached 10K post, I wasn't contacted about the gift either. :( It is a slap in the face.
 
MC|1289628968|2764122 said:
Cehra,

Sorry about how your feel. FWIW, I've been on here for 7 1/2 years and when I reached 10K post, I wasn't contacted about the gift either. :( It is a slap in the face.

I don't think it is appropriate that some people receive the 10k gift and others don't. Reaching 10,000 posts indicates a great deal of loyalty to this site. That is reason enough to receive the gift. I am sorry for Cehra, MC and others who were overlooked. People have left PS because of this. It's just not right.
 
I just want to clarify a couple things.

I think the gift acknowledgement could have been handled differently - say everyone who had old admin, or announcing that starting today everyone not registered is not eligible. Something to that effect. But that's just my opinion and I'm disappointed but not mad about that. They have the right to change policies whenever they like and it was a GIFT not contract. I get it. I was sad I couldn't get something but whatever, it seemed too good to be true and it was. If I hadn't taken a break I would have made it.

What gets to me is when there is no acknowledgement whatsoever. No Hey congrats thanks blahblah blah... I did expect that. I really did. I looked forward to that. Hearing psers words meant a lot but... well maybe it's my fault for abandoning rocky talky after a certain poster started making me and others unhappy to be there. Maybe if I was still in the face of the powers that be they would have noticed...

And as sobby as I may sound, this board is just a tiny aspect of my life, so it's not like I'm thrown into depression or something. I am just certain the moderators saw the thread and just didn't bother. It wasn't important. And you know, things have been going that way for a while. I think maybe that's what all of us see. There is less connection. I've been so happy with the *peace* associated with the new admin, but I have to say that right now for all the bickering, there was a certain bonding that occurred with Irina. She was hot headed for better or worse and that is a family like quality. Being cool headed is a good thing, but it can be bland as well.

Just my direct and honest thoughts.
 
MC and AGBF - you two have been around for 7 years or more... if anyone deserves acknowledgment it is you guys.

I think it would have been nicer to have the gifts more qualitative than quantitative. But again, speculating about a moot issue doesn't do any of us any good.

And to be even more honest, I feel petty and petulant to be discussing it at all lol But hey, I wanted to say that so I did.
 
I apologize if anyone feels hurt, it has never been our intent, but we have tried to make it clear over the past number of years that the gift is not for 10k anymore.

We appreciate everyone's contribution here, but it is just not feasible for us to gift everyone who hits 10k as there are many people hitting it now.

At the same time, we have been very busy but it is no excuse to at least pop in and offer congratulation to hitting the 10K mark.


Sara, MC, AGBF and everyone we missed Congratulation and I promise to be more attentive.

[Edited to add AGBF]
 
Well, I always thought it was silly to make it about posting 10k posts - I've seen people post that much over *wanting* to get engaged and never contributing anything really to the website. It is difficult to qualify it too, how do you judge who has done what etc.

Anyway, I acknowledge the pettiness of this post, well, this thread, but thank you. And AGBF hasn't hit 10k yet... she just knows that when she does...

I think it would have been wise when the new admin took over to have said, "everyone who joins from this day forth is not eligible". Hindsight and all lol
 
risingsun|1289629199|2764123 said:
MC|1289628968|2764122 said:
Cehra,

Sorry about how your feel. FWIW, I've been on here for 7 1/2 years and when I reached 10K post, I wasn't contacted about the gift either. :( It is a slap in the face.

I don't think it is appropriate that some people receive the 10k gift and others don't. Reaching 10,000 posts indicates a great deal of loyalty to this site. That is reason enough to receive the gift. I am sorry for Cehra, MC and others who were overlooked. People have left PS because of this. It's just not right.

I agree. Because as it stands now, it looks like they're playing favorites.
 
I didn't get it either and I can see how you're a bit disappointed. I agree with you though that it didn't matter so much about the gift but for the fact that the admins didn't say a word of thanks.

ETA-the reason that I said it didn't matter so much about the gift was that I didn't think I'd receive it as I don't participate in Rocky Talk very much. Dreamer definitely 100% deserves the gift. It's a pity that we lost some other valued members due to it though.
 
Laila619|1289634672|2764151 said:
risingsun|1289629199|2764123 said:
MC|1289628968|2764122 said:
Cehra,

Sorry about how your feel. FWIW, I've been on here for 7 1/2 years and when I reached 10K post, I wasn't contacted about the gift either. :( It is a slap in the face.

I don't think it is appropriate that some people receive the 10k gift and others don't. Reaching 10,000 posts indicates a great deal of loyalty to this site. That is reason enough to receive the gift. I am sorry for Cehra, MC and others who were overlooked. People have left PS because of this. It's just not right.

I agree. Because as it stands now, it looks like they're playing favorites.

For chrissakes....

You know what? You run things how YOU want to when you start doling out a thousand bucks a pop. I don't care if they ARE playing favorites. That's their right! Entitlement much?

I'm not saying that long time posters are wrong to have visions of martini studs dancing in their heads, but come on! Personally, I'm GLAD it's hard now to say who gets what. The current member who got it spends HUGE amounts of time not only in Rocky Talky helping newbies when there was no GIFT motive whatsoever, but she also helped countless of women here understand the science of trying to conceive LONG AFTER she actually got pregnant, gave birth and got busy! She stands out above the crowd and I am so happy they brought it back for someone because she DESERVED it.

MANY previous 10K gift receivers probably didn't deserve it all that much. Yours truly included. But that was the way it was done back then. It isn't now. 10K posts are a milestone to old timers, but in the new world of PS2.0, it's no longer what it was.

Stay because you want to contribute, share, and learn. If PSers have left the site because they didn't get gifts, then...um, I'd say good riddance!
 
Laila619|1289634672|2764151 said:
risingsun|1289629199|2764123 said:
MC|1289628968|2764122 said:
Cehra,

Sorry about how your feel. FWIW, I've been on here for 7 1/2 years and when I reached 10K post, I wasn't contacted about the gift either. :( It is a slap in the face.

I don't think it is appropriate that some people receive the 10k gift and others don't. Reaching 10,000 posts indicates a great deal of loyalty to this site. That is reason enough to receive the gift. I am sorry for Cehra, MC and others who were overlooked. People have left PS because of this. It's just not right.

I agree. Because as it stands now, it looks like they're playing favorites.



I for one don't believe this is the case - that is not how it appears to me, as someone who joined last year after the 'gifts' ceased.


Stone Cold is a Rocky Talky staple, and participates almost exclusively in RT - and this is, afterall, a *gemstone* forum. He may not be a 'popular' poster but he is an invaluable resource to the hundreds of newbies coming here for help on their purchases.

Dreamer, the most recent recipient, is now well past that 10k mark of glory. And, it was not her number of posts but her longtime contributions to - again - Rocky Talky that were acknowledged monetarily.


This is a hobbyist's forum - it is primarily for people who love diamonds and coloured gemstone to gather, learn, and share. Frankly, if posters leave because they are not allotted some arbitrary "reward for posting X times" - if that reward was what they were posting for - well, they were here for the wrong reasons, and their absence is of no lasting consequence.


Cehra is absolutely right in that congratulatory acknowledgement from admin is in order, as 10k *is* a milestone, and represents years of commitment to a venture. But "gifts" in excess of that stated acknowledgement are just that, gifts, and it's in poor taste to expect them, IMO.


ETA: what Tgal said, rather more effusively ::)
Edited for wording
 
Yssie|1289637292|2764177 said:
Laila619|1289634672|2764151 said:
risingsun|1289629199|2764123 said:
MC|1289628968|2764122 said:
Cehra,

Sorry about how your feel. FWIW, I've been on here for 7 1/2 years and when I reached 10K post, I wasn't contacted about the gift either. :( It is a slap in the face.

I don't think it is appropriate that some people receive the 10k gift and others don't. Reaching 10,000 posts indicates a great deal of loyalty to this site. That is reason enough to receive the gift. I am sorry for Cehra, MC and others who were overlooked. People have left PS because of this. It's just not right.

I agree. Because as it stands now, it looks like they're playing favorites.



I for one don't believe this is the case - that is not how it appears to me, as someone who joined last year after the 'gifts' ceased.

I don't think it's playing favourites. Beforehand everyone who hit 10k posts got it and obviously that would have to be stopped at some stage as quite a few of us have been posting here for years.
 
Cehra, I think you've contributed a lot. You were the cushion trailblazer... and you really helped a lot of people on RT. But I'm not the decision maker. Yes, I got a 10K gift. I don't know whether or not I deserved it, and I don't think it matters any more. My gift was from Andrey not Irina.

I do think that a 'thank you' is appropriate for reaching certain milestones. As a way of acknowledging investment. I am glad that Andrey came on here and thanked you and I do wish he'd done it on your original thread. I do agree about the sense of less connection. I feel connected to Ella and am always happy to see her, but despite Irina's faults she was invested in PS outside of it's money making potential. And no, I don't get that feeling from Andrey. He's very much the Wizard behind the curtain, but that is his way, and it is his site.

I do know that when people were recieving gifts at 10K there was often a month lag between the milestone and the gift. I also know that Stonecold recently recieved a gift and he REALLY contributes all day, everyday. And I remember that his gift was not tied to 10K.

I wanted to thank you for your help on RT with cushons and elsewhere with everything else and let you know that IMO you really are a valuable member and that I am glad you are on here honey.
 
I would like to see rocky talky contributors who consistently help get a PS gift (I'm not in that group btw) because they keep up the footfall on the site.

Everyone else should get a congrats though.
 
TravelingGal|1289637198|2764176 said:
Laila619|1289634672|2764151 said:
risingsun|1289629199|2764123 said:
MC|1289628968|2764122 said:
Cehra,

Sorry about how your feel. FWIW, I've been on here for 7 1/2 years and when I reached 10K post, I wasn't contacted about the gift either. :( It is a slap in the face.

I don't think it is appropriate that some people receive the 10k gift and others don't. Reaching 10,000 posts indicates a great deal of loyalty to this site. That is reason enough to receive the gift. I am sorry for Cehra, MC and others who were overlooked. People have left PS because of this. It's just not right.

I agree. Because as it stands now, it looks like they're playing favorites.

For chrissakes....

You know what? You run things how YOU want to when you start doling out a thousand bucks a pop. I don't care if they ARE playing favorites. That's their right! Entitlement much?

I'm not saying that long time posters are wrong to have visions of martini studs dancing in their heads, but come on! Personally, I'm GLAD it's hard now to say who gets what. The current member who got it spends HUGE amounts of time not only in Rocky Talky helping newbies when there was no GIFT motive whatsoever, but she also helped countless of women here understand the science of trying to conceive LONG AFTER she actually got pregnant, gave birth and got busy! She stands out above the crowd and I am so happy they brought it back for someone because she DESERVED it.

MANY previous 10K gift receivers probably didn't deserve it all that much. Yours truly included. But that was the way it was done back then. It isn't now. 10K posts are a milestone to old timers, but in the new world of PS2.0, it's no longer what it was.

Stay because you want to contribute, share, and learn. If PSers have left the site because they didn't get gifts, then...um, I'd say good riddance!

Well said by someone who got the gift. :rolleyes:
 
I have stated my opinion about the gift thing too much in this thread I think, because that isn't what this thread is about.

This thread was supposed to be about verbal (written) acknowledgement, heck I even started my own thread.

As far as the gift thing goes, better people than me haven't gotten one so there's no real complaining from me on that front. It was a bummer. But I was really disappointed - I was seriously way too eager - to get some verbal praise. I admit it, I am the verbal acknowledgment type in the love types lol Baste me baby!
 
Personally I really don't care that much if I get a gift or not. I appreciate how I've grown because of this community. I appreciate the ties I've made. To me that is the gift I have gotten for posting, and being dedicated to this community and seeing how others change and grow.

I DO think it would be nice if admin just sends a quick congrats and thank you for contributing so much.
 
bee*|1289636982|2764171 said:
I didn't get it either and I can see how you're a bit disappointed. I agree with you though that it didn't matter so much about the gift but for the fact that the admins didn't say a word of thanks.

ETA-the reason that I said it didn't matter so much about the gift was that I didn't think I'd receive it as I don't participate in Rocky Talk very much. Dreamer definitely 100% deserves the gift. It's a pity that we lost some other valued members due to it though.


Yeah I just saw the thread about Dreamer and now I feel pretty shmucky :rolleyes: at my timing...

And thank you for understanding that it is an acknowledgment thing... I looked forward to this for a long time. Ut oh, my dorkus is showing!!
 
Gypsy, as my very first friend here I just want to say thank you thank you, you just choked me up. You know exactly where I have been every step of the way and for better (or worse haha) you GET me. Thank you for that, thank you for understanding what I'm really trying to say here... just thank you :) (((hugs)))
 
rosetta|1289646227|2764207 said:
I would like to see rocky talky contributors who consistently help get a PS gift (I'm not in that group btw) because they keep up the footfall on the site.

Everyone else should get a congrats though.

I was actually way more active on RT before a certain poster came along. I really could have handled an excited, "Since you've been gone so much has happened - here check this out, I'm really excited and can't wait to hear what you have to say about all of this." but instead I decided to spend more time with the lovely ladies in Hangout :) I hear the smoke may have cleared over there so maybe I'll post more over there. I miss it. Cushion cuts are a passion of mine... I remember Diagem or Garry warning me a long time ago about the consequences of attempting to perfect cushions and they were right. Still glad they're trying though... but they need to optimize more than one style since there are so many types... it would be a shame to put performance too far above the uniqueness of the cut. There are some really interesting qualities about cushions that are lost - just LOST - in the search for perfection. The appreciation for their lack of perfection is being not only ignored, but spit upon and that's a shame. Not all love is based on ideals. But there's nothing wrong with combining science and art as my very long held sigline attests...
 
Aw that's a shame that you feel less inclined to post on RT cehra. I think I must have joined after you stopped posting there. Would be good to see you back there! I don't really post much on RT but I do read the threads regularly. Lots of strong opinions abound!
 
PS Admin|1289630215|2764134 said:
I apologize if anyone feels hurt, it has never been our intent, but we have tried to make it clear over the past number of years that the gift is not for 10k anymore.

We appreciate everyone's contribution here, but it is just not feasible for us to gift everyone who hits 10k as there are many people hitting it now.

At the same time, we have been very busy but it is no excuse to at least pop in and offer congratulation to hitting the 10K mark.


Sara, MC, AGBF and everyone we missed Congratulation and I promise to be more attentive.

[Edited to add AGBF]

I'm not there yet, Andrey. And I am obviously not posting on Pricescope because I wanted a 10,000 postings gift! I was posting for years before there was such a gift and have kept posting since it was discontinued for routine 10,000 posters. At the rate I am going, I will reach 10,000 postings at 8 or so years on Pricescope! You should have enough warning to congratulate me (if you still wish to do so)!

Deb
:read:
 
There is more to being a great PS'er than just knowing about diamonds. This community would never have grown to the size it is if the boards had been restricted to diamond discussions.

We come here to laugh, cry, look for support and advice, hangout with like minded people... the list is long. We share our ups and downs. Our weddings, babies, divorces and so on. This place would not be what it is today if there weren't people committed to posting regularly. Keeping the PS spirit alive.

I think (and not only because I am approaching 10k posts) that regular members should be shown some kind of appreciation. It doesn't have to be a gift (although that would be nice!), just a thank you would be enough.

I can understand the disappointment that people feel when their 10k comes and goes without some kind of celebration of the person they are. Or that the long term members (and I class myself as such) don't get acknowledged for their efforts.

I certainly don't post on PS to get a gift. I post here because I have grown to love this place (warts and all) and while I may whinge occassionally about the way things are I still love it here.

Ultimately PS is a business for the owners. That business has grown over the years and i'm sure it makes money. There are many little people here that help keep this place alive. Without the love and care from the real PS'ers there would be no Pricescope.
 
Here's my take on things....

I think people started seeing posters get the gift after 10k and then there was a mad rush of people posting hundreds of posts a day filled with "lol" and "ditto" to reach the 10k asap. Personally, I have been here for 5 years and only have 4k posts, so it will probably take me until the 12 year mark to hit 10k. That would be kind of sad to invest 12 years of my life to something to get a $1k gift. I stick around for the friendships, advice, the lovely bling, and updates on what's going on in the world. Pricescope is not a non-profit business, it wouldn't be possible to give everyone a gift simply because they post a lot. I do understand the long time posters feeling a bit disappointed because we got to see our friends get to pick out some lovely jewelry, but things change and we either adapt or leave. It was made clear that they weren't giving the gift to everyone a long time ago around the time Bee and Musey reached it, so I'm not sure why it is a shock at this point. But thanks for all you and the other log time posters contribute.
 
Oh please. All of you who are 'expecting' a pat on the back for reaching 10K are so far removed from the internet world. There are millions of forums out there, with millions of people posting on millions of threads. You and your post count are really not significant in the grand scheme of things. That is just the nature of the internet. You can either adapt to it, or find another outlet.

I think it's fair for the admins to only give the 10K gift to those that are immensely helpful in RT. Providing diamond information is the first and foremost mandate of Pricescope, the non-diamond chat forums are just the cherry on top.

Also, I get that people are upset that if only they reached 10K earlier, they would've received the gift. But here's the thing, marketing is a fluid, dynamic thing. You change your strategies based on what is needed - back then they needed long time posters to stay around and help increase volume, now they need those who are well-versed in diamond knowledge to stick around. It's quite simple, really.



ETA: Edited to add 'gift' after 10K
 
Maisie|1289650218|2764218 said:
TravelingGal|1289637198|2764176 said:
For chrissakes....

You know what? You run things how YOU want to when you start doling out a thousand bucks a pop. I don't care if they ARE playing favorites. That's their right! Entitlement much?

I'm not saying that long time posters are wrong to have visions of martini studs dancing in their heads, but come on! Personally, I'm GLAD it's hard now to say who gets what. The current member who got it spends HUGE amounts of time not only in Rocky Talky helping newbies when there was no GIFT motive whatsoever, but she also helped countless of women here understand the science of trying to conceive LONG AFTER she actually got pregnant, gave birth and got busy! She stands out above the crowd and I am so happy they brought it back for someone because she DESERVED it.

MANY previous 10K gift receivers probably didn't deserve it all that much. Yours truly included. But that was the way it was done back then. It isn't now. 10K posts are a milestone to old timers, but in the new world of PS2.0, it's no longer what it was.

Stay because you want to contribute, share, and learn. If PSers have left the site because they didn't get gifts, then...um, I'd say good riddance!

Well said by someone who got the gift. :rolleyes:

I get that you're carrying a vendetta against certain posters on PS. I just wish you would just drop it and move on. It really isn't as big a deal as you have made it out to be. Your below-the-belt shots are not constructive. T-gal already mentioned that she did get the gift and is unsure if she deserved it, but let's not get all sour-grapes on her, mmkay?
 
kama_s|1289659449|2764339 said:
Maisie|1289650218|2764218 said:
TravelingGal|1289637198|2764176 said:
For chrissakes....

You know what? You run things how YOU want to when you start doling out a thousand bucks a pop. I don't care if they ARE playing favorites. That's their right! Entitlement much?

I'm not saying that long time posters are wrong to have visions of martini studs dancing in their heads, but come on! Personally, I'm GLAD it's hard now to say who gets what. The current member who got it spends HUGE amounts of time not only in Rocky Talky helping newbies when there was no GIFT motive whatsoever, but she also helped countless of women here understand the science of trying to conceive LONG AFTER she actually got pregnant, gave birth and got busy! She stands out above the crowd and I am so happy they brought it back for someone because she DESERVED it.

MANY previous 10K gift receivers probably didn't deserve it all that much. Yours truly included. But that was the way it was done back then. It isn't now. 10K posts are a milestone to old timers, but in the new world of PS2.0, it's no longer what it was.

Stay because you want to contribute, share, and learn. If PSers have left the site because they didn't get gifts, then...um, I'd say good riddance!

Well said by someone who got the gift. :rolleyes:

I get that you're carrying a vendetta against certain posters on PS. I just wish you would just drop it and move on. It really isn't as big a deal as you have made it out to be. Your below-the-belt shots are not constructive. T-gal already mentioned that she did get the gift and is unsure if she deserved it, but let's not get all sour-grapes on her, mmkay?

I really like Tgal actually. So you are mistaken there. I don't hold a vendetta against her or anyone. Perhaps I could have left the rolling eyes out of my post. Would that have been better?
 
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