How should I set this Barbie pink Mahenge spinel?

[Dreamer_D]

Thank you, it helps getting more experienced eyes on this. Nothing else jumps out at me as needing to be changed.

It looks nice. I like the amount of overlap of the arms of the ring, if you will, and I like the cobblestone pave. Maybe think a little about the airlines on the baskets. On the end view of the oval it looks like the struts are not aligned symmetrically with the oval (see image), though it may be just the angle.

I’d examine that a little closer and inquire. What does this view look like for the EC? I would want it to be similar to the oval.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Here as well I would probably want the arm of the shank to connect and align with the outer edge of the bezel… rather than abutting so it leaves an edge like it does now (and I’d examine that line on the other side too). But not everyone cares about such small details.

 

[Drahokam]

It looks nice. I like the amount of overlap of the arms of the ring, if you will, and I like the cobblestone pave. Maybe think a little about the airlines on the baskets. On the end view of the oval it looks like the struts are not aligned symmetrically with the oval (see image), though it may be just the angle.

I’d examine that a little closer and inquire. What does this view look like for the EC? I would want it to be similar to the oval.

 

[Drahokam]

I have a cad video but not sure how to upload, i took few more screenshots. Thank you for pointing it out, I will definitely put that in my comments to the jeweler to make sure they are aligned.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Consider also whether you want to just enclose the baskets or leave them open with struts. Just something to think about.

 

[Starstruck8]

I love this concept. I have a sort-of similar stylized double snake ring. It's one of my favourites.

I agree with all @Dreamer_D's comments. It may be just the perspective, but the 'emerald' arm seems to have a weird kink in the inner edge:
If both arms had a similar curve (or both were straighter) they would nest better without the widening gap between the emerald and the oval arm.

You may think of angling the end of the oval arm, so it doesn't dig into your finger so much. (You would have to adjust the angle of the other struts a bit to make it look right.)


On Dreamer_D's comments on how the arms join to the heads, see these side views of my ring:

Note now the ends of arms (almost) fill the entire backs of the heads.

Communicating this of detail to a jeweller is not always easy. It's sometimes wise to compromise between what you think you want and what the jeweller is comfortable doing. Remember, the jeweller has experience, and has to think about issues you may not even be aware of.

 

[Drahokam]

Consider also whether you want to just enclose the baskets or leave them open with struts. Just something to think about.

I have a dumb question, are struts the vertical lines that connect the bezel and the basket?

 

[Drahokam]

I love this concept. I have a sort-of similar stylized double snake ring. It's one of my favourites.

I agree with all @Dreamer_D's comments. It may be just the perspective, but the 'emerald' arm seems to have a weird kink in the inner edge:
If both arms had a similar curve (or both were straighter) they would nest better without the widening gap between the emerald and the oval arm.

You may think of angling the end of the oval arm, so it doesn't dig into your finger so much. (You would have to adjust the angle of the other struts a bit to make it look right.)


On Dreamer_D's comments on how the arms join to the heads, see these side views of my ring:

Note now the ends of arms (almost) fill the entire backs of the heads.

Communicating this of detail to a jeweller is not always easy. It's sometimes wise to compromise between what you think you want and what the jeweller is comfortable doing. Remember, the jeweller has experience, and has to think about issues you may not even be aware of.

I had your ring saved as inspiration for how to handle bezels in bypass rings and also how one can achieve snake look without being literal (though i also love the literal snake pieces).
I see what you mean about what you labelled as “odd twist”, i agree and will try to explain to the jeweler.
For the angling of the oval arm you marked with black line, i am not sure i understand - would you recommend angling it away from the finger or a different change?

 

[Dreamer_D]

Basket is the entire structure that holds the diamond

Struts in red:

 

[Dreamer_D]

You may think of angling the end of the oval arm, so it doesn't dig into your finger so much. (You would have to adjust the angle of the other struts a bit to make it look right.)

I was also going to suggest this but didn’t want to overwhelm OP lol but I agree with more elegant and likely comfortable.

BTW @Starstruck8 is using “head” the same way I am using “basket”. Same thing.

 

[Drahokam]

Here as well I would probably want the arm of the shank to connect and align with the outer edge of the bezel… rather than abutting so it leaves an edge like it does now (and I’d examine that line on the other side too). But not everyone cares about such small details.

This is what is looks like from the bottom, the oval seems to transition smoothly but not the EC

 

[Drahokam]

I was also going to suggest this but didn’t want to overwhelm OP lol but I agree with more elegant and likely comfortable.

BTW @Starstruck8 is using “head” the same way I am using “basket”. Same thing.

Is the “pointy” part of the basket (circled) what should be less angled towards the finger? No worries about overwhelming, my work brain is used to collecting user feedback and translating it to design requirements for engineers to implement, except normally it is for science and not jewelry. This is a bigger project for me, long time coming as i have been thinking about it for so long and i really want to get it right.

 

[Dreamer_D]

This is what is looks like from the bottom, the oval seems to transition smoothly but not the EC

Actually from that angle it looks like the arm of the shank lines up with the shorter end of the EC, but in this image it looks like the arm connects all the way to the long dimension and overlaps the cut corner.



will they send you a wax or plastic model before it’s cast? That would help as I think some of these issues are just a funky CAD and it may be a waste of time scrutinizing it so closely. It’s a small detail. From the image I pasted above it looks cohesive to me. I might personally leave this issue alone as long as I had specified that the shanks should meet the heads of the ring centered and symmetrically. There is an element of trusting the vendor needed.

 

[Drahokam]

Actually from that angle it looks like the arm of the shank lines up with the shorter end of the EC, but in this image it looks like the arm connects all the way to the long dimension and overlaps the cut corner.



will they send you a wax or plastic model before it’s cast? That would help as I think some of these issues are just a funky CAD and it may be a waste of time scrutinizing it so closely. It’s a small detail. From the image I pasted above it looks cohesive to me. I might personally leave this issue alone as long as I had specified that the shanks should meet the heads of the ring centered and symmetrically. There is an element of trusting the vendor needed.

I will ask but I don’t think he will send me a wax model. I agreed about it overall looking cohesive, besides the issues you outlined. I will do my best to communicate back to the jeweler and cross fingers

 

[Dreamer_D]

Is the “pointy” part of the basket (circled) what should be less angled towards the finger? No worries about overwhelming, my work brain is used to collecting user feedback and translating it to design requirements for engineers to implement, except normally it is for science and not jewelry. This is a bigger project for me, long time coming as i have been thinking about it for so long and i really want to get it right.

Yes that edge could be softened in finishing so it’s not too sharp or you could ask them to tuck the bottom edge of the basket in a little to change that angle and soften the line.

Here is a similar design that shows a slightly tapered basket so the bottom is just a bit smaller than the top, creating a nice smooth curve rather than a sharp angle. Gorgeous gallery too, though yours is set lower so doesn’t have room for the designs but ir shows how the struts can be more than just functional.

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Who is your vendor? Have you seen their work? Do they provide a wax? Do you pay for CAD revisions? All this determine how much you should ask for and manage the CADs. The only truly needed change IMO is adjusting the arm to get rid of the gap.

 

[Drahokam]

Yes that edge could be softened in finishing so it’s not too sharp or you could ask them to tuck the bottom edge of the basket in a little to change that angle and soften the line.

Here is a similar design that shows a slightly tapered basket so the bottom is just a bit smaller than the top, creating a nice smooth curve rather than a sharp angle. Gorgeous gallery too, though yours is set lower so doesn’t have room for the designs but ir shows how the struts can be more than just functional.

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Who is your vendor? Have you seen their work? Do they provide a wax? Do you pay for CAD revisions? All this determine how much you should ask for and manage the CADs. The only truly needed change IMO is adjusting the arm to get rid of the gap.

ThuWin -https://custombythuwin.com/, he was recommended by Zoe from RothRockRings (on Insta) and so i have virtually seen the work he did for her. I paid for the Cad design and these changes are part of what i paid for already. David’s work is always like art. Bezels in my design are very low, for wearability, i wanted it to be very low fuss ring i will reach for daily.

 

[Dreamer_D]

ThuWin -https://custombythuwin.com/, he was recommended by Zoe from RothRockRings (on Insta) and so i have virtually seen the work he did for her. I paid for the Cad design and these changes are part of what i paid for already. David’s work is always like art. Bezels in my design are very low, for wearability, i wanted it to be very low fuss ring i will reach for daily.

Yeah I like how low it is, it will def be comfortable. I’d say sit with it a few days and ponder what you want to ask for before reaching out. That’s what I like to do. Just really get straight in my mind. Then try to be very clear and succinct in communicating any requests.

 

[Drahokam]

Yeah I like how low it is, it will def be comfortable. I’d say sit with it a few days and ponder what you want to ask for before reaching out. That’s what I like to do. Just really get straight in my mind. Then try to be very clear and succinct in communicating any requests.

I agree, definitely sitting with this and mulling it over is needed. Thank you @Dreamer_D and @Starstruck8 for taking the time to review the design, provide feedback and also the feedback being prioritized by importance. I typed up email with change requests, will sit on it, and then send it over to the jeweler.

 

[Drahokam]

What metal color would best bring out the color of the two stones? I tend to favor yellow gold, but I like white and rose gold too.i recently went with rose gold to help bring out orange in my spess and really like how that worked for that particular stone. it made me appreciate how beneficial can the right metal color selection be.

 

[Starstruck8]

Apologies for the delay, I've been busy. Briefly, I agree with all @Dreamer_D's points and explanations. I guess this illustrates how communicating spatial information in words is not so easy...

Just a thought, can your CAD drawer give you plain orthographic (top, each side, end) views? I'm thinking that the perspective in the video stills may be confusing.

This picture of one side of my ring shows what I meant by angling the struts:


Your ring goes further around the finger, so you could tilt the end strut more.

On metal colour, I'm a big fan of 18K yellow gold, and that's perfect for your stones. But if you think that's too Christmassy, white metal would work too. With the pure clean colours of your stones, I would not recommend rose gold.

 

[Drahokam]

Apologies for the delay, I've been busy. Briefly, I agree with all @Dreamer_D's points and explanations. I guess this illustrates how communicating spatial information in words is not so easy...

Just a thought, can your CAD drawer give you plain orthographic (top, each side, end) views? I'm thinking that the perspective in the video stills may be confusing.

This picture of one side of my ring shows what I meant by angling the struts:


Your ring goes further around the finger, so you could tilt the end strut more.

On metal colour, I'm a big fan of 18K yellow gold, and that's perfect for your stones. But if you think that's too Christmassy, white metal would work too. With the pure clean colours of your stones, I would not recommend rose gold.

@Starstruck8 no worries, you have been so helpful, i appreciate it so much. Yes he gave a file with a top down and also a side view, this is from that file (instead of video screenshots).

 

[Dreamer_D]

There’s no gap? Are these revised? But now the metal is super thick where the gap was…

 

[Drahokam]

There’s no gap? Are these revised? But now the metal is super thick where the gap was…

Not yet revised. For some reason the gap is only visible in the animation. He confirmed it is there and can be closed

 

[Dreamer_D]

Sometimes cads are an exact perfect image of what the finished product will be and sometimes they are an approximation and analyzing the little details is not a good use of time. Hard to know which is the case!

 

[Drahokam]

Sometimes cads are an exact perfect image of what the finished product will be and sometimes they are an approximation and analyzing the little details is not a good use of time. Hard to know which is the case!

That’s good to know. I have sent the feedback and now waiting for a revised file.

 

[Drahokam]

I got the modified cad back, the gap between the arms has been closed. The angle on the inside of each arm remains, not sure if it is an actual issue or something one wouldn’t even notice when the ring is completed.

 

[Dreamer_D]

You could search for other bypass and moi et toi rings posted on PS and see how they treat that area. That’s what I would do. Or just ignore it and proceed lol

 

[Drahokam]

You could search for other bypass and moi et toi rings posted on PS and see how they treat that area. That’s what I would do. Or just ignore it and proceed lol

I think i have reached the point of “ignore and proceed”

 

[Autumn in New England]

I think i have reached the point of “ignore and proceed”

It looks good to me, honestly. I can't wait to see it done!

 

[Drahokam]

Looks like my response only went through only partially, i guess even my typing reached a point of “ignore and proceed”.