How bad is this bowtie in my 2.35 carat pear shape diamond? I need to figure out if i should exchange it or not.

[Saharjoon]

 

[foxinsox]

I feel like it's quite noticeable in terms of difference in sparkle - you go from a field of twinkle at the tip to a patch of no sparkle through the middle. Does it look like that all the time or only in some lights?

 

[FL_runner]

Can you take a few more pics in different light? I’m so sorry, but I don’t love the cut of this one from the Pic you posted. I have a pear engagement ring and was super duper picky about the bow tie and trying to avoid the mushy facet effect. It can be very challenging!

 

[oncrutchesrightnow]

If bow ties bug you then this diamond is not the one. Sorry.

 

[ariel144]

I agree that is a very large bow tie. I think it will bother you when you wear it on your finger. There are much better pear diamonds out there. I've been looking at them recently too. Love the shape.

 

[ariel144]

Can you take a few more pics in different light? I’m so sorry, but I don’t love the cut of this one from the Pic you posted. I have a pear engagement ring and was super duper picky about the bow tie and trying to avoid the mushy facet effect. It can be very challenging!

Ditto on the mushy facet effect and pears with no bow tie...very hard to find but they are out there. What's your opinion on this rare pear faceting with its FAT STAR 8 MAINS on this 2.4c GIA report? I've noticed some of the CVD LGD's look gray in the videos but this is a GIA G VS1. Would it have a gray tint? So check with the vendor on what it looks like IRL! Love this RARE facet pattern as it is like an old cut pear except with no open culet. Nice price too $3k.
In the photo it looks dark across the middle but in the video you don't see that at all....so possibly no bow tie! (since cut is king...Even with a slight gray tint, I would still choose this pear because of the cut...but that is just me.)

2.40 Carat Pear Lab Diamond GIA 2427579166 | Ritani

2.4 Carat Pear Lab Diamond VG Cut G Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number GIA #2427579166

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[ariel144]

As far as "exchanging" this pear diamond. Most good vendors online have a free return policy so you do not have to be locked into this vendor for an exchange. You should be able to return it at no cost to you. And then choose another vendor that has a better performing pear diamond. If you find another diamond that is better with another vendor see if your present vendor has the same stone. Research the best price for the diamond you are choosing and the vendor will most likely price match that very stone if they also show it in their inventory. Hope this helps. You just need to know that you are not necessarily locked into this vendor. IMO the vendor should have steered you away from this pear diamond.

 

[ariel144]

Also, I've learned over the years from Jon at Distinctive Gem, when choosing a pear diamond or really any fancy cut (oval, cushion etc) you should try to find a stone with a smaller table and high crown. Table percentage in the MID 50% range is desirable. Also with fancy cuts to not go any lower than a G color as they tend to show more tint. Hope this helps with your search if you return your pear.

Also pear diamonds tend to hide inclusions well so a well cut, eye clean SI1 stone can be a really nice diamond and save you $$ from paying the higher cost of a higher clarity diamond.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Looks terrible.
The size is one issue, the duration through angular rotation is also important. If the dark zone flashes on and off then it can be a positive like the star pattern in Ideal-scope or hearts and arrows rounds.
The color and closeness of the camera/phone is an issue - make the distance and size about the same effect as what you see with your own eyes please.

 

[ariel144]

How to tell if your oval has a bowtie thread:

Acceptable Bow Tie?

Hi all, I'm about to pull the trigger on this oval diamond, but unfortunately I cannot view it in person. I'm worried about a possible "bow tie" effect and wanted to see if anyone can give their opinion as to whether this is an acceptable. Thank you...

www.pricescope.com

 

[Saharjoon]

I feel like it's quite noticeable in terms of difference in sparkle - you go from a field of twinkle at the tip to a patch of no sparkle through the middle. Does it look like that all the time or only in some lights?

Only in direct sunlight, I took it to 2 jewelers and they both said the cut has no issues

 

[Saharjoon]

Ditto on the mushy facet effect and pears with no bow tie...very hard to find but they are out there. What's your opinion on this rare pear faceting with its FAT STAR 8 MAINS on this 2.4c GIA report? I've noticed some of the CVD LGD's look gray in the videos but this is a GIA G VS1. Would it have a gray tint? So check with the vendor on what it looks like IRL! Love this RARE facet pattern as it is like an old cut pear except with no open culet. Nice price too $3k.
In the photo it looks dark across the middle but in the video you don't see that at all....so possibly no bow tie! (since cut is king...Even with a slight gray tint, I would still choose this pear because of the cut...but that is just me.)

2.40 Carat Pear Lab Diamond GIA 2427579166 | Ritani

2.4 Carat Pear Lab Diamond VG Cut G Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number GIA #2427579166

www.ritani.com

Hmmm thank you, I'll take a look
The price is really nice

 

[Saharjoon]

I agree that is a very large bow tie. I think it will bother you when you wear it on your finger. There are much better pear diamonds out there. I've been looking at them recently too. Love the shape.

I took it to a couple of jewelry stores and they all said it's natural and it's a great diamond.

 

[ariel144]

I would trust Garry, the CutNut's opinion. But if it is pleasing to your eyes, that is all that matters. Can't wait to see how you set it.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Looks terrible.
The size is one issue, the duration through angular rotation is also important. If the dark zone flashes on and off then it can be a positive like the star pattern in Ideal-scope or hearts and arrows rounds.
The color and closeness of the camera/phone is an issue - make the distance and size about the same effect as what you see with your own eyes please.

tTake better photos. have some one take photos of you taking the photos
lots
So we know how bad the BT is

 

[Saharjoon]

Looks terrible.
The size is one issue, the duration through angular rotation is also important. If the dark zone flashes on and off then it can be a positive like the star pattern in Ideal-scope or hearts and arrows rounds.
The color and closeness of the camera/phone is an issue - make the distance and size about the same effect as what you see with your own eyes please.

 

[Saharjoon]

Here are more photos and not in direct sunlight!
It's in natural day light by the window. I took them with different angles and distances as well.

 

[Saharjoon]

Can you take a few more pics in different light? I’m so sorry, but I don’t love the cut of this one from the Pic you posted. I have a pear engagement ring and was super duper picky about the bow tie and trying to avoid the mushy facet effect. It can be very challenging!

Added more photos with different angles to the comments.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

The bow tie is not persistent then?
Are you happy?

 

[Saharjoon]

The bow tie is not persistent then?
Are you happy?

Wait so it was just a lighting issue? The darkness in the sunlight made me think it's a bowtie. And yes I'm super happy now I know I assumed wrong. And thanks again for the input Garry .

 

[joey_v]

Based on my experience, that diamond does not demonstrate a significant bowtie. A lot of times, it's in certain light, indoors, low ceiling, where the bowtie is a result of your own reflection.