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KingKuda

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Hi,

After a few months of designing and procuring, I picked up my fiancee to be's engagement ring today. Everything is perfect, however the height of it is worrying me. She has always said she wanted something simple with a low setting, however I am worried that this seems excessively high.

I'm obviously not great with this stuff and could be stressing over nothing, but I just feel like this seems very high and could come down a fair bit.

What is everyone's thoughts? Please give me your feed back!

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That is not abnormally high imo. Should be fine
 
tkyasx78 said:
That is not abnormally high imo. Should be fine
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Well that scares me, she wanted 'low' so the fact it isn't 'abnormally' high is pretty alarming.
 
I love a low setting and getting mine set as low as possible, but I think your ring looks beautiful! It does not look too high and I would love it!
 
lagirlie said:
I love a low setting and getting mine set as low as possible, but I think your ring looks beautiful! It does not look too high and I would love it!
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Hmm I am contemplating dropping it lower, I just feel like it's too high. The jeweller said any lower will be too low but I'm so unsure.
 
KingKuda said:
Hmm I am contemplating dropping it lower, I just feel like it's too high. The jeweller said any lower will be too low but I'm so unsure.
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how high is it? How many mm?
 
From the top of the ring to the bottom is 7mm
 
Well.. it is a typical catheral setting. With the pear diamond, it is elegant and graceful. You should not have picked this type of setting if low profile is what you want, although low profile catheral settings do exist.

You would not buy a sports car and expect the best ride quality.

The ring is beautiful.
 
Gorgeous and visually proportional :love:

On a scale of
"sky-high",
"doesn't look ridiculous but you're probably gonna whack it a few times",
"right in the middle",
"low", and
"your diamond's doing the limbo"...
I'd put yours at "right in the middle". I can't tell how much clearance there is between culet and prongs base but it doesn't look like there's much room to spare! I think meaningfully lowering it would mean changing the head design to add a doughnut - please don't do that without getting her input first. I'll wager she'll be thrilled with it exactly as-is ::)
 
I do have time to change it, like 3 months time, so all comments are welcome. I get so worried with this stuff, so stressful.
 
yssie said:
Gorgeous and visually proportional :love:

On a scale of
"sky-high",
"doesn't look ridiculous but you're probably gonna whack it a few times",
"right in the middle",
"low", and
"your diamond's doing the limbo"...
I'd put yours at "right in the middle". I can't tell how much clearance there is between culet and prongs base but it doesn't look like there's much room to spare! I think meaningfully lowering it would mean changing the head design to add a doughnut - please don't do that without getting her input first. I'll wager she'll be thrilled with it exactly as-is ::)
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I definetely don't want a doughnut, I want the ring to sit flush if she stacks it which was what drew my attention to the cathedral setting.

All day I see photos from the top facing down on social media, then when it came time to design it I realise how little I knew about the smaller details that make or break the ring.
 
Pear shaped diamonds tend to be deeper than other cuts of diamonds, so that automatically places it up higher than, say, a round. That being said, it appears to be set as low as possible for the diamond you have and is a beautiful and elegant setting.
 
Why don’t you use it as is to propose, and let your fiancée decide? Just tell her this was as low as the jeweler would set it but if she wants it lower, you guys could change the setting later on. Back when I knew nothing about rings, I asked for a low setting too but now that I know how light from all angles changes the way a stone looks, I love high settings It’s likely she will love it just how it is.
 
peacechick said:
Why don’t you use it as is to propose, and let your fiancée decide? Just tell her this was as low as the jeweler would set it but if she wants it lower, you guys could change the setting later on. Back when I knew nothing about rings, I asked for a low setting too but now that I know how light from all angles changes the way a stone looks, I love high settings It’s likely she will love it just how it is.
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Agree. FWIW I think it looks beautiful.
 
In my honest opinion, if the stone is set lower, the ring will not look good. Right now it seems perfect to me.
 
I just checked the GIA certificate, the depth of the diamond is 4mm and the height of the ring as mentioned above is 7mm. That leaves a 3mm gap or so, so it could probably come down another 1mm or so. Decisions, decisions.
 
Its a lovely setting and pretty average in height from what I've seen among my recently engaged coworkers. I personally were "low rider" rings (and my DH calls them). I have them designed such that the culet is "in" the shank to gain every millimeter in lowering. But, I also work with my hands and often forget to take my rings off.

For this setting, I suspect the issue is that they cannot set the diamond lower in "this" setting. In the picture below, I highlighted the culet. There is air between the culet and the bottom of the prongs. But, look at the shoulder (red line). That is set below the girdle. That might not allow a wider stone to drop lower as it likely can't be flexed outward.

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So, to lower the setting, you'd have to get a different setting all together. If this is a stock setting, that might be possible. If fully custom, that means a whole new setting unless there is room between the shoulders.

There are settings that are both flush and can set the stone lower, but that would likely be custom for a pear. If you ignore the halo here, can you see how the prongs emerge from the top of the shank with a wider stance? Those prongs can curve in (like #1 below) or curve outward (like #2 below). That is one option that allows a lower setting and flush wedding band. You could ask the jeweler if they could do this on this ring, but it will depend on the width available at those shoulders.

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Leave it alone, it looks beautiful......and post back after the proposal and give us the details of happiness. Good luck.
 
rockysalamander said:
Its a lovely setting and pretty average in height from what I've seen among my recently engaged coworkers. I personally were "low rider" rings (and my DH calls them). I have them designed such that the culet is "in" the shank to gain every millimeter in lowering. But, I also work with my hands and often forget to take my rings off.

For this setting, I suspect the issue is that they cannot set the diamond lower in "this" setting. In the picture below, I highlighted the culet. There is air between the culet and the bottom of the prongs. But, look at the shoulder (red line). That is set below the girdle. That might not allow a wider stone to drop lower as it likely can't be flexed outward.

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So, to lower the setting, you'd have to get a different setting all together. If this is a stock setting, that might be possible. If fully custom, that means a whole new setting unless there is room between the shoulders.

There are settings that are both flush and can set the stone lower, but that would likely be custom for a pear. If you ignore the halo here, can you see how the prongs emerge from the top of the shank with a wider stance? Those prongs can curve in (like #1 below) or curve outward (like #2 below). That is one option that allows a lower setting and flush wedding band. You could ask the jeweler if they could do this on this ring, but it will depend on the width available at those shoulders.

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Wow, thank you so much for the effort you have put in to helping me.

It was a custom setting, so would need to be redone completely again. I am contemplating dropping it down 1mm but based on this thread, now thinking against it.

I just want everything to be perfect, so stressing about the size of the diamond and the height :eek2:
 
I think it’s high. I see air space at the bottom and I don’t like that look.

For me, a setting should be made to fit the stone, right down to the culet. I’ve had rings set high and it looks like my stone was just popped in to an existing setting and not custom made. A head should be custom made to snuggle the stone, not some generic head.

To me, the stone needs to fit the setting for it to be aesthetically beautiful. If there is air space, and it is really hard to tell, but if there is, I would drop it and get rid of all that air space.

Just my two cents. Good luck.
 
Miki Moto said:
I think it’s high. I see air space at the bottom and I don’t like that look.

For me, a setting should be made to fit the stone, right down to the culet. I’ve had rings set high and it looks like my stone was just popped in to an existing setting and not custom made. A head should be custom made to snuggle the stone, not some generic head.

To me, the stone needs to fit the setting for it to be aesthetically beautiful. If there is air space, and it is really hard to tell, but if there is, I would drop it and get rid of all that air space.

Just my two cents. Good luck.
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My main concern with that now is that I want the ring to sit flush with the wedding band, so need some height in there I am assuming.

The diamond is 4mm, the wedding band will be 2mm, so that leaves a 1m gap I am assuming.
 
KingKuda said:
My main concern with that now is that I want the ring to sit flush with the wedding band, so need some height in there I am assuming.

The diamond is 4mm, the wedding band will be 2mm, so that leaves a 1m gap I am assuming.
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It doesn’t work that way because you have the band of the ring and the base to consider. For me, a 3mm gap of air space is way too big. The design of the shank and the angle “up” should have been designed with the stone in mind. Was this a custom piece of did the jeweler take and existing shank design and just create the head. I am not an expert in design but to me, that is what it looked like he did because the cathedral angles up far too high for your diamond and therefore he and to make you basket higher to fit the height of the shank and that is why you have all that space. A custom piece should not do that.
 
Miki Moto said:
It doesn’t work that way because you have the band of the ring and the base to consider.
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Didn't I just consider exactly that?
 
I’m just a novice but I think it looks great. You got her a big rock so there is no way that it could be considered low profile. I agree with others - let her decide once she sees it. She’ll be so blown away that it may take her a while to figure out if it suits her or not. In any case, you made her a beautiful ring.
 
I would leave it alone. Propose with it the way it is and see what your GF thinks. If she wants it lower, then have it reset.
 
eapj said:
I’m just a novice but I think it looks great. You got her a big rock so there is no way that it could be considered low profile. I agree with others - let her decide once she sees it. She’ll be so blown away that it may take her a while to figure out if it suits her or not. In any case, you made her a beautiful ring.
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Thanks for that, makes me feel a bit better but I do want honest opinions, no hard feelings here.

I think I could potentially get it another 1mm lower. I stacked a wedding band with it and it looks to be a great fit, but 1mm more may look even better.
 
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