Help! Buying RB Saturday morning!

[clorox_white]

I've procrastinated and need to order my diamond tomorrow morning in order to get the e-ring set in time. I'm looking for a well cut eye clean ~1.7ct H Si1. I'm no expert in examining ASET images, so thanks to everything I've learned on this site, I've been focusing on AGS 0 stones to make it a bit easier.

I've identified the following possibilities. Would love any opinions ASAP as I need to make a decision tomorrow. Thanks!

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12011
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3075972.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3016703.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3048657.htm

I also found these GIA XXX but I don't care for this site as much as they lack some of the additional visual aids provided by the above. Still, I've seen others recommend this site so I'm including them for completeness:
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.70-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-202873
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.75-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-328385

 

[Gypsy]

Good Old Gold all the way. The WF stones all show leakage in the IS. That rules them all out for me.

JA can provide ASET but it takes 3 business days, so that delay might not work for you.

I do hope you are the one who put the GOG stone on hold.

In case you are not, how about this one:
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.642-h-vs2-round-diamond-ags-104071920005 Might be above budget though.

 

[Lorelei]

I've procrastinated and need to order my diamond tomorrow morning in order to get the e-ring set in time. I'm looking for a well cut eye clean ~1.7ct H Si1. I'm no expert in examining ASET images, so thanks to everything I've learned on this site, I've been focusing on AGS 0 stones to make it a bit easier.

I've identified the following possibilities. Would love any opinions ASAP as I need to make a decision tomorrow. Thanks!

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/12011
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3075972.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3016703.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3048657.htm

I also found these GIA XXX but I don't care for this site as much as they lack some of the additional visual aids provided by the above. Still, I've seen others recommend this site so I'm including them for completeness:
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.70-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-202873
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.75-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-328385

Hi Clorox,

It looks as if you have made your choice and if so, it's an excellent one, the GOG stone looks smashing provided it is eye clean to your specifications, you would need to ask Jon about this. The WF diamonds are also excellent, the first 2 in particular, I think it's doubtful the very slight hint of leakage on the IS images for the first 2 would be visible in reality, with the third, possibly, unless you want cut perfection, the WF diamonds could certainly be an option. But it appears you are set anyway, assuming that was you putting the GOG stone on hold....

 

[clorox_white]

Thanks so much for the quick replies - this forum rocks! (Pun, intended.)

Yes, I was the one who put the GOG diamond on hold - just in case. It did seem like the best option. I didn't speak to Jonathan but I did speak to David, who confirmed it was eye clean in good lighting just a few inches away with 20/20 vision. (Surprised me a bit, for an Si1, but if I understood him correctly he said most of the inclusions blend in with the facets towards the edge of the table and so are hard to spot.) He said it even took him several seconds to spot the inclusions using a loupe.

Thanks again!

 

[Lorelei]

Thanks so much for the quick replies - this forum rocks! (Pun, intended.)

Yes, I was the one who put the GOG diamond on hold - just in case. It did seem like the best option. I didn't speak to Jonathan but I did speak to David, who confirmed it was eye clean in good lighting just a few inches away with 20/20 vision. (Surprised me a bit, for an Si1, but if I understood him correctly he said most of the inclusions blend in with the facets towards the edge of the table and so are hard to spot.) He said it even took him several seconds to spot the inclusions using a loupe.

Thanks again!

Whew, you had us going there....

That sounds just fine, you are in great hands with David and he has young eyes so he will be able to spot anything there is to spot I would imagine. Keep us posted to further developments!

 

[luvdajules]

Hello! I love the selections you have and it looks as though you can't go wrong with GOG or WF (no leakage issue imho). Just wanted to point out from a learning perspective that this the first time I've seen an ASET or brilliancescope of a 60/60 stone with the measured testing to quantify the less balance of fire to brilliance that are typical of 60/60 stones. A beautiful selection, nonetheless! Good luck and how do you plan to set?

 

[Lorelei]

Hello! I love the selections you have and it looks as though you can't go wrong with GOG or WF (no leakage issue imho). Just wanted to point out from a learning perspective that this the first time I've seen an ASET or brilliancescope of a 60/60 stone with the measured testing to quantify the less balance of fire to brilliance that are typical of 60/60 stones. A beautiful selection, nonetheless! Good luck and how do you plan to set?

'Morning Luvda. I too think that stone will pop, very nice!

 

[luvdajules]

GM Lorelei! My fav way to wake up with a nice cuppa and PS, lol!

 

[Lorelei]

GM Lorelei! My fav way to wake up with a nice cuppa and PS, lol!

Quite right too!

 

[SirGuy]

I think if you're a fan of 60/60 stones, the GoG one looks pretty darned good! Sounds like a tight schedule but kudos for being educated and getting some good ones in your "cart."

 

[clorox_white]

Thanks everyone for the feedback! The GoG is now officially ordered. On to the next step!

Good luck and how do you plan to set?

I'm going to use this setting, which is the only setting my lady fell in love with: https://www.etsy.com/listing/154310488/blooming-work-of-art-beautiful-flower?ref=favs_view_2

Not very practical, perhaps, but she tells me she'll gladly sacrifice practicality in the name of fashion.

I know the standing advice is to get the setting from the same vendor you buy the diamond from and have them mount the center stone, so I'm crossing my fingers this works out.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Thanks everyone for the feedback! The GoG is now officially ordered. On to the next step!

Good luck and how do you plan to set?

I'm going to use this setting, which is the only setting my lady fell in love with: https://www.etsy.com/listing/154310488/blooming-work-of-art-beautiful-flower?ref=favs_view_2

Not very practical, perhaps, but she tells me she'll gladly sacrifice practicality in the name of fashion.

I know the standing advice is to get the setting from the same vendor you buy the diamond from and have them mount the center stone, so I'm crossing my fingers this works out.

I'd be sure you have insurance before you send the stone off to someone else to set. Jeweler's Mutual is the only company I know of who will cover a stone prior to and during setting.

That diamond is going to sit really high in that setting, which is another reason you need insurance. It will inevitably get whacked against things more easily.

 

[clorox_white]

I'd be sure you have insurance before you send the stone off to someone else to set. Jeweler's Mutual is the only company I know of who will cover a stone prior to and during setting.

That diamond is going to sit really high in that setting, which is another reason you need insurance. It will inevitably get whacked against things more easily.

We're planning to self-insure. I priced out Jeweler's Mutual and it came out to be 2.5% of the total value, far more than what some folks have been quoted, and a bit of a rip-off, IMHO.

Here's my plan to mitigate risk:
I will spend some time getting familiar with recognizing the inclusions in this particular stone using a loupe (it also has the AGS certificate number inscribed), and to take it to a local jeweler to set it while I wait. I'll take a print-out of the AGS certificate with the diamond plot and review it with the jeweler beforehand so that he knows I'm capable of recognizing the diamond after it's set.

After it's set, I'll re-review the diamond and the setting itself to ensure it doesn't appear damaged, the diamond is level, the prongs even, and that my diamond is the one that has been set.

Any other thoughts or suggestions?

 

[AprilBaby]

The insurance is more for damage during setting than any chance of the stone being switched.

 

[tinv]

For 1.7 ct stone, I prefer a plain setting. This beautiful diamond from GOG is going to fight with all the busy little diamonds on this setting for attention. My wife too had a particular setting that she fell in love with. I did my research and convince her on a Tiffany clone solitaire. She is now glad she did not buy that setting.

 

[OECsareforLovers]

The insurance is more for damage during setting than any chance of the stone being switched.

Yup, also if you have insurance through JM they will cover anything that happens during shipping so you don't NEED to buy additional insurance through the shipping company.

 

[clorox_white]

The insurance is more for damage during setting than any chance of the stone being switched.

Hmmm. I had expected that the jeweler would have coverage for this sort of thing if they damaged it? I suppose my own insurance would come in handy if the jeweler tried to deny the damage or otherwise gave me a hard time about solving a problem. Knowing that anything can happen of course, how likely is it really that a diamond would be damaged when being set by a reputable jeweler?

For 1.7 ct stone, I prefer a plain setting. This beautiful diamond from GOG is going to fight with all the busy little diamonds on this setting for attention. My wife too had a particular setting that she fell in love with. I did my research and convince her on a Tiffany clone solitaire. She is now glad she did not buy that setting.

You bring up a good point. This setting also isn't the most practical (as previously pointed out on this forum), but it's the one my lady set her heart on, and unlike your wife, would not be convinced otherwise despite my advice and gentle admonitions. At the end of the day, it's her ring and her choice. If she ends up not loving it as much as she thinks she will, we can always get the setting replaced a few years down the road.

 

[Lorelei]

The insurance is more for damage during setting than any chance of the stone being switched.

Hmmm. I had expected that the jeweler would have coverage for this sort of thing if they damaged it? I suppose my own insurance would come in handy if the jeweler tried to deny the damage or otherwise gave me a hard time about solving a problem. Knowing that anything can happen of course, how likely is it really that a diamond would be damaged when being set by a reputable jeweler?

It's usual if another vendor sets the stone, that they won't assume liability should any damage or loss occur during the process, so having your own insurance is prudent, albeit rare, damage during setting isn't unknown.

And congratulations!

 

[Lorelei]

Hmmm. I had expected that the jeweler would have coverage for this sort of thing if they damaged it? I suppose my own insurance would come in handy if the jeweler tried to deny the damage or otherwise gave me a hard time about solving a problem. Knowing that anything can happen of course, how likely is it really that a diamond would be damaged when being set by a reputable jeweler?

For 1.7 ct stone, I prefer a plain setting. This beautiful diamond from GOG is going to fight with all the busy little diamonds on this setting for attention. My wife too had a particular setting that she fell in love with. I did my research and convince her on a Tiffany clone solitaire. She is now glad she did not buy that setting.

You bring up a good point. This setting also isn't the most practical (as previously pointed out on this forum), but it's the one my lady set her heart on, and unlike your wife, would not be convinced otherwise despite my advice and gentle admonitions. At the end of the day, it's her ring and her choice. If she ends up not loving it as much as she thinks she will, we can always get the setting replaced a few years down the road.

Concerning the setting, if your lady has set her heart on a particular setting, however impractical it seems, that is the one you must go with as you are doing! You are definitely doing the right thing.