Hard to find the right one .7

[robelbobel]

Hi,

I'm reading here for weeks and checking recommended sites every day . I hope my english is good enough to ask for your help.
I want to buy an engagement ring and my budget for the stone and ring is about 3-4000 dollar. I love the diamonds from whiteflash and briangavin and that they provide aset scope images etc. but i think its to expensive and i can not find a nice sidestone ring in my budget, But james allen and blue nile have the rings that I'm searching for. So i found a stone at james allen and asked for certificate and aset scope image and the send it to me today. May you can give me a recommendation please.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-color-vvs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-7987078

Table: 58%
Crown: 35.6
Pavilion: 40.6
Depth: 61





What do you think about this diamond? Never saw a aset scope with a missing arrow ...
And is it a problem to set this diamond in this ring (cause of the sidestones in a lighter colour)? My girlfriend loves this setting.
https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...e-gold-petite-pave-engagement-ring-item-56255

I hope you can help me with this decision. Do i have to search more days to find the right one ? I also found these two:

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-7818552

and a briangavin with this setting:
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/.../0.704-i-si1-round-diamond-ags-c-104105165050

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...ide-stones/petite-pave-14k-white-gold-7173w14

Thanks in advance!

 

[AV_]

I would not worry about the color grade of the diamonds on the ring - they are too small for any variation in the colorless - near colorless GIA range to matter. The red shaft of one arrow might mean that one pavilion facet is steeper by a minute fraction of a degree - nothing terrible.

Do upgrade policies matter to you? This might make more of a difference between the options.

I might check for options with the HCA search here.

 

[AV_]

There are few larger, but many colourless options with Ex. HCA. One such with orthodox proportions: WWW

& an almost 60/60 that makes me curious: WWW

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[monipod]

I'm not very helpful with ASET reports etc. but if you are getting a setting from James Allen, keep in mind that the pave diamonds they use will be F-G colour on average so if set in white gold or platinum, and if your lady is colour sensitive, she might notice the warmth of the I colour stone, especially from the side. Someone else may be able to weigh in as to whether the warmth would be that noticeable for a .7 ct.

I would wait and see if James Allen does another 25% of settings sale this year so you can use the saving to upgrade your stone to a G or H just in case. For a 0.7ct stone, I think you could get away with a clarity of VS2 or even SI2 if you choose well. If I was getting a solitaire setting in yellow gold, then I would buy I/J/K any day.

 

[Swirl68]

The first stone you listed has an IGI certificate. IMO it looks more tinted than a GIA I color and is maybe a faint brown. Try to stick with GIA or AGS graded stones.

 

[robelbobel]

Hi,

thank you for all the informations. The most people of you think i should take a lighter colour.
I asked for the certificate of the stone which "AV_" wrote me:

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...s1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-7240415?a_aid=ps


HCA is a 1.6

And i found this one at James Allen and also asked for certificate. HCA is a 1.2
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...h-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-7705885



What you think about these two? The customer service told me that there is no ideal scope image for these two stones.

During my search I watched out at Brian Gavin and there a couple of stones 0.67 - 0.71ct with colour g,h,i for only 2350 - 2700 dollar. Do you think this would be the better deal?

Thanks in advance.

 

[rockysalamander]

WF can get Stuller settings. https://www.stuller.com/products/12...yId=21347&recommendationSource=CategoryBrowse

This inhouse is very much like the JA one.

Charis Pave Diamond Engagement Ring by Vatche | 1657

Charis Pave Diamond Engagement Ring by Vatche. Embrace the grace and brilliance of love with the alluring Charis pave diamond engagement ring by Vatche. | 1657

www.whiteflash.com

In a super ideal, I think you will be fine down to an I color. If she is bothered by the color, with WF, you can always upgrade for only a $1 more. With JA, you'll have to double the budget. BG are great, but they will require that you upgrade 2 of 3 (color, size, clarity) -- which can be tough if you are trying to maximize size with lower color/clarity.

Stones.

Diamond | 0.701 ct G SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4063417

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.701 carat G color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4063417

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 0.715 ct H SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4089749

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.715 carat H color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4089749

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 0.708 ct I VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4166393

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.708 carat I color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4166393

www.whiteflash.com

 

[robelbobel]

WF can get Stuller settings. https://www.stuller.com/products/12...yId=21347&recommendationSource=CategoryBrowse

This inhouse is very much like the JA one.

Charis Pave Diamond Engagement Ring by Vatche | 1657

Charis Pave Diamond Engagement Ring by Vatche. Embrace the grace and brilliance of love with the alluring Charis pave diamond engagement ring by Vatche. | 1657

www.whiteflash.com

In a super ideal, I think you will be fine down to an I color. If she is bothered by the color, with WF, you can always upgrade for only a $1 more. With JA, you'll have to double the budget. BG are great, but they will require that you upgrade 2 of 3 (color, size, clarity) -- which can be tough if you are trying to maximize size with lower color/clarity.

Stones.

Diamond | 0.701 ct G SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4063417

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.701 carat G color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4063417

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 0.715 ct H SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4089749

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.715 carat H color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4089749

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 0.708 ct I VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4166393

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.708 carat I color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4166393

www.whiteflash.com

Thank you for your recommendations! I like the stones but I think they are to expesive for me. Also the rings are much more expesive at whiteflash.

 

[KKJohnson]

Personal option would be to buy a WF stone so you have the upgrade policy with the backing of fantastic customer service and buy the setting from JA, have JA ship directly to WF to have them set the stone and work the prongs how you like.

This WF stone is $153 more and a hair larger (will not be noticeable to the naked eye

Diamond | 0.707 ct I VS2 Expert Selection Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4159448

This fabulous 0.707 carat Round Ideal cut diamond has a clarity grade of VS2 and color grade of I.It is an excellent choice for engagement rings. | 4159448

www.whiteflash.com

If it was me, I would maximize my stone size with this one and get the JA ring. This still puts you under the 4k budget

Diamond | 0.818 ct I SI1 Expert Selection Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4150003

This fabulous 0.818 carat Round Ideal cut diamond has a clarity grade of SI1 and color grade of I.It is an excellent choice for engagement rings. | 4150003

www.whiteflash.com

 

[AV_]

I had known that the HCA would be less than 2 from the search here WWW Since H&A perfection is not a must, pictures give me enough of an idea of whether the cut is precise enough to have a recognizable pattern of contrast (I do not know, in fact, if the HCA works without some fairly well defined pattern! @Serg)... I would look for HCA score, diameter (the E is the largest - 6mm, most .7 stones are about 5.7 - the difference does matter; there is a premium for colour, as there is for cut; clarity is where IDK for grades but for what is seen alone - IF-VS mean 'nothing there' to me, SI1 & SI2 mean 'possibly nothing distracting').

If you the ring is not to be a keepsake, then upgrade policies matter.

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