Halo setting affect ''light return'' of diamond?

[chictomato]

Hi there I have a 0.80carat round brilliant set in 4 prongs. I am thinking of changing it into a halo setting, to achieve a bigger look However, I understand from the postings that the prong setting is the choice for maximum showcase of the stone itself as it maximizes light return from all angle. The halo setting will in a way covers up the pavillion of the diamond. will it result in lesser brilliancy or a duller looking stone? thanks

 

[stone-cold11]

if the stone is well cut, no, it should not have any effect as the light return from the stone to the observer mainly comes from above crown and not through the pavilion as is the case for a badly cut stone.

 

[Luckyeshe]

I agree with stone-cold. Most observers will only see your diamond from the top so as long as your stone''s cut is maximized for fire, you should be fine. I love halos...but then again I''m biased and it does add quite a bit of heft to your rock. Good luck on your decision!

 

[ct-appr]

If the stone is properly cut, light enters the crown and bounces across the pavilion and back out the crown. The halo setting should not affect an ideal or near-ideal cut stone.

 

[tyty333]

Ditto what everyone else said. They also do prong set halos. Have you considered that?
Here are a few...

 

[chictomato]

hi there tks for the reply! your ring is beautiful how many types of halo setting are there? bezel halo, prong halo... anymore others? kindly attach a pict if possible tks!! one more concern, are there different grades of color to choose for the little diamond melees (correct spelling?) on the halo? it seems to me that they are all of commercial grade. G,H,I color, down to SI clarity. My 3 stones are of E color and Excellent cut, I am concern if the halo will appear ''yellowish and dull'', and indirectly bring down the appearance of my stones? will it? thanks

 

[chictomato]

hi there will you mind to attach a photo of the side profile of you prong halo pls? tks!

 

[Londongirl1]

There are lots of pictures of Halos posted here on PS, just don''t assume that a halo will make your diamond look bigger. I''ve seen some halos on here that don''t look that good in my opinion.

 

[chictomato]

hi thanks for the visuals! I will actually prefer not to have a "gap" spacing between the halo and stone. But I like to have the prong setting as I like the stone to be ''lifted''. Thanks there are alot of visuals from your link

 

[risingsun]

Date: 8/22/2009 8:39:37 PM
Author: chictomato
hi there tks for the reply! your ring is beautiful how many types of halo setting are there? bezel halo, prong halo... anymore others? kindly attach a pict if possible tks!! one more concern, are there different grades of color to choose for the little diamond melees (correct spelling?) on the halo? it seems to me that they are all of commercial grade. G,H,I color, down to SI clarity. My 3 stones are of E color and Excellent cut, I am concern if the halo will appear 'yellowish and dull', and indirectly bring down the appearance of my stones? will it? thanks

These are not "commercial grade" color or clarity. If they are well cut, they can be AGS 0 Ideal or GIA Excellent in grading

Cut is the defining factor! Attached is my halo. It is prong set and has incredible light return. There is no airline in this setting. If you would like additional views or have questions, let me know.

 

[chictomato]

hi tks for your reply! now i know ''airline'' is the word yes, i would like me halo setting to be without the airline like yours! can you kindly show the side views pls? tks

 

[tyty333]

Hi Chictomato,
Those are not my rings (unfortunately

). They belong to other members of PS. Here is a link to a tread where people show their
halos. Like RS said, if they are good mele, the color being off a couple of grades doesnt matter. I guess if you are having it custom made you
can ask for whatever color you want though.

Here''s the link...

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/a-collection-of-halos.121549/

 

[risingsun]

This is a view of the gallery...

 

[risingsun]

This is the side view. I hope this helps

 

[Lorelei]

Always a pleasure to see your gorgeous ring Marian!!!

 

[Rockdiamond]

Hello everyone!
chictomato- it seems to me your question really centers around Bezel Set, versus prong set.
IMO a bezel has pluses and minuses. I've attached a photo of a bezel set halo ring.
One drawback is that a bezel can block light that might enter through the girdle- which is obscured by the bezel.

However as you have seen from the other rings posted, many halo rings have the center stone set in prongs.
IMO prongs on a well made halo will be pretty much identical ( in terms of light blockage) to a prong set tiffany style ring.
I can think of only one other setting method besides 4 or 6 prongs or a bezel....let me see if I can dig up a photo!

 

[chictomato]

thanks everyone for the visual references!! Do you think that Marian setting will look good on a 0.80 carat centre stone with 2 more additional sidestone of .40 carat each on simple 4 prongs? tks

 

[risingsun]

Date: 8/23/2009 3:58:21 PM
Author: Lorelei
Always a pleasure to see your gorgeous ring Marian!!!

Why thank you, Miss Lorelei

 

[risingsun]

Date: 8/23/2009 9:42:49 PM
Author: chictomato
thanks everyone for the visual references!! Do you think that Marian setting will look good on a 0.80 carat centre stone with 2 more additional sidestone of .40 carat each on simple 4 prongs? tks

I think it's time to do some field research

Go to some B&M stores and start looking at halos that will accomodate your size stone. If you want to see my exact setting, visit a HOF vendor and ask to see the Significance semimount. You could also look at the Tacori halos. Some of them have side stones. I can also suggest Saturn Jewels. I recently viewed some of their halo settings. I was sure that I wanted a Tacori until I tried on the HOF! Sometimes you just need to try them on to know what you like best on your hand. Let us know how your research progresses

 

[oldminer]

A halo style with delicate prongs and no airline around the diamond showing enhances the visual size of the center diamond and does not hinder any light return. A bezel, an airline or thick prongs may alter the light performance a bit, but probably not enough to rule any of the out totally.

An airline allows you to give the ring a larger diameter than what the stones themselves would cover. A bezel can alter the face-up color with some diamonds making fancy colors look richer or a bezel can server to protect a fragile girdle on any color diamond from chipping, too. Heavy prongs hold more securely than thin ones, but in a halo, there are few reasons to need heavy prongs at all. At least, none come to mind right now.

 

[sarah95]

What is an airline when describing halos?

 

[risingsun]

Date: 8/24/2009 8:43:38 PM
Author: sarah95
What is an airline when describing halos?

There is a space between the center stone and the halo, rather than a flush fit.

 

[ts44]

This is an example of an air line around a bezel:

This is an extreme example of a prong-set air line:

It essentially creates a gap between the halo and the stone, allowing the stone to sort of stand on its own and also be a cohesive part of a larger setting.

 

[chictomato]

Thanks its beautiful!

 

[Laila619]

Date: 8/24/2009 12:25:34 PM
Author: oldminer
A halo style with delicate prongs and no airline around the diamond showing enhances the visual size of the center diamond and does not hinder any light return. A bezel, an airline or thick prongs may alter the light performance a bit, but probably not enough to rule any of the out totally.

An airline allows you to give the ring a larger diameter than what the stones themselves would cover. A bezel can alter the face-up color with some diamonds making fancy colors look richer or a bezel can server to protect a fragile girdle on any color diamond from chipping, too. Heavy prongs hold more securely than thin ones, but in a halo, there are few reasons to need heavy prongs at all. At least, none come to mind right now.

Interesting David. Why/how would an airline affect the light performance? I assumed the opposite, that an airline would help light get to the stone.