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  1. Candice
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    by Candice » Aug 25, 2019
    I’m interested in a vintage pendant I saw on Etsy which has an emerald cut green Spinel. It’s dark green with hints of blue in it. I couldn’t find much information on PS or pictures of members green spinel. Is it not popular?

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  2. AV_
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    by AV_ » Aug 25, 2019
    It does not exist.
     
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    by mellowyellowgirl » Aug 25, 2019
    Haha I was thinking "Oooh I'd be all over that" as I am green mad too.

    Sort of wish I had a green zircon! But keep buying jade cuz jade is tough stuff compared to them fiddly zircons!
     
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  5. LisaRN
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    by LisaRN » Aug 25, 2019
    I have only seen teal colored spinels and they are usually a darker tone. I too have heard of the fabled green spinel, but until someone posts a picture of a true green spinel with a reputable lab report I also do not believe they exist.
     
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    by AV_ » Aug 25, 2019
    @Candice I am reading in the article: "Only pure green and yellow appear to be absent"

    The text is confusing, however; it then mentions (in the table) that gahnite & picotite are some kind of green without saying that the gahnite in the picture is a great example of the finest such green to be expected. I do not quite get it why these other minerals are mentioned at all.
     
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    by T L » Aug 25, 2019
    The only green spinel I’ve seen is a grey spinel with hints of green or teal. The stone in the Etsy necklace is a typical color for synthetic green spinel, which is more like a lime green or minty green color. They can make synthetic spinel in a huge array of colors these days, many of which do not exist in nature.
     
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    by Candice » Aug 25, 2019
    I’m not sure, the listing for the necklace does mention is it not a pure green but green with blue undertones, I tried to research gahnite which states it’s a type of spinel?
     
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  11. T L
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    by T L » Aug 25, 2019
    That’s a better picture, not what I was expecting. It could be natural, but I would want a lab report.
     
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    by AV_ » Aug 25, 2019
    @Candice If the stone is natural, it does need a lab report to be believed. The quality is too unusual for Gahnite.

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    by arglthesheep » Aug 26, 2019
    HI there,
    I don´t know if I am allowed to post a picture of sold stones. We had a true green spinel with a lap report. Very rare and seldom seen. The last years as the "offcolored" spinels are coming more into the market you see teal colored far often then in the past.
     
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    by Bron357 » Aug 26, 2019
    Unless it’s really cheap ie gold weight plus $5 you need a reputable lab report. Synthetic Spinel is everywhere.
     
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    by distracts » Aug 26, 2019
    All the green spinel I have ever seen is synthetic. It is common in vintage pieces. But it is usually more of a uranium glass or chrysoberyl color, not the color pictured.
     
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  16. Nick_G
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    by Nick_G » Aug 26, 2019
    There is an iron-containing variety called chlorospinel that is green. Here's a pic of an alluvial pebble form Mindat:

    https://www.mindat.org/photo-281531.html

    I've never seen a cut stone from this material though.
     
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    by AV_ » Aug 26, 2019
    If you do post here or on Instagram, this thread will be the world's best reference on natural green spinel. There is hardly anything on record.
     
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    by T L » Aug 26, 2019
    Ask the moderator for permission.
     
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 26, 2019
    I hope you can, that sounds like a very interesting stone
     
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    by arglthesheep » Aug 26, 2019
    This is what i wanted to try with my post. So if a moderator says yes I can post it.
     
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    by Candice » Aug 26, 2019
    I hope you’re able to get the go ahead to post
     
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    by Arcadian » Aug 26, 2019
    I hope you can. I think they allowed it in the past but not sure how the rules changed (if at all) Besides, this is all about an educational moment being its already sold.

    I've seen plenty of teal spinels, most of them pretty dark, so seeing a true green would make me stoked!
     
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 26, 2019
    I don't know if it could considered a greenish grey or greyish green plus the certificate is done by a gemologist that is maybe the seller so idk how valuable it could be (not doubting the gemologist knowledge, judgement or ability but if he's also the seller there's a pretty big conflict of interest I think)
     
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    Huge conflict of interest. Plus those in house certificates don't carry the weight of a well respected independent lab.
     
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    by strawrose » Aug 26, 2019
    I suspect the one above is synthetic. Here is an example of a set:

    https://etsy.me/2MDl8gk

    The price for the pendant might be a good indicator, too. (Although the one I linked MIGHT be way overpriced.) :lol-2:
     
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    by Candice » Aug 27, 2019
    Geez! Over $8k CAD for synthetic spinel
     
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