GoG RB, What do you think...?

[tickintime]

I just had Charles (thanks a million) get this diamond in for me and I placed it on reserve.

0.47ct D, IF, RB, EX/EX/EX

This would be for a .47ct solitaire (Superbcert tiffany repro) promise ring. The reason for the super high quality is
a) I am crazy!
b) This may become one of the side stones on a e-ring. Past, present, future (where one of the diamonds is from our past!!)

On the HCA it scores a 1.1

Specs are as follows:
Shape: Round
Carat Weight: 0.47ct
Color: D
Clarity: IF
GIA Cut Grade: Excellent
AGS Light Performance: Ideal
Optical Symmetry: Superior
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None
Girdle: 1.26%
Culet: None
Lab Report: GIA
Lab Report #: 14622177
In House: Yes
Width: 5.02mm
Length: 5.05mm
Depth: 3.07mm
Table Percentage: 55.43%
Depth Percentage: 60.91%
Crown ∠: 34.30°
Crown Depth: 15.03%
Pavilion ∠: 40.83°
Pavilion Depth: 43.04%
Upper Girdle ∠: 42.50°
Lower Girdle ∠: 41.98°

 

[tickintime]

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[wen104]

It''s perfect and she will love it. You couldn''t pick a much more perfect diamond! Nothing at all to worry about there!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Well, I guess it''s a good kind of crazy! The bad part will be having to pay for more D IF-VVS''s to go with it if it becomes part of another ring!

But it''s certainly a beautiful stone

...however, I am not totally into this promise ring thing. If you are giving a half carat diamond ring, I think it appears more like an engagement ring and it will be perceived that way by others.

 

[bem3231]

Date: 2/6/2008 4:50:27 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Well, I guess it''s a good kind of crazy! The bad part will be having to pay for more D IF-VVS''s to go with it if it becomes part of another ring!

But it''s certainly a beautiful stone

...however, I am not totally into this promise ring thing. If you are giving a half carat diamond ring, I think it appears more like an engagement ring and it will be perceived that way by others.

I second both of diamondseekers comments! The certs that you''ve chosen are great, but will you be looking for more of the same for the rest of the ring?

Where I live ''promise rings'' aren''t much of a phenomenon. I agree that it may well be perceived as an engagement ring.

 

[dmus]

From the specs it sounds fabulous! Your matching diamond must also be fantastic. Can''t imagine what your center stone will run. How much did you pay for this one?

 

[tickintime]

Date: 2/6/2008 4:53:14 PM
Author: bem3231
The certs that you''ve chosen are great, but will you be looking for more of the same for the rest of the ring?

Knowing my personality, yes I would be looking for more of the same in a future ring. I guess it would be worthwhile to note that this would be something along the lines of 1.5ct+ center with one additional .5ct side stone.

The Price Stat "thing" stated that the .47 should be $8,000 for H&A, D, IF. This one is under half of that, so figuring a 2ct, D, IF says $28,0000 can I figure $20,000 for a paid price?

 

[tickintime]

Date: 2/6/2008 4:57:11 PM
Author: dmus
From the specs it sounds fabulous! Your matching diamond must also be fantastic. Can''t imagine what your center stone will run. How much did you pay for this one?

Forgot it took the price away when reserved...$3,200 is the credit card price.

 

[tickintime]

Date: 2/6/2008 4:53:14 PM
Where I live ''promise rings'' aren''t much of a phenomenon. I agree that it may well be perceived as an engagement ring.

I don''t really think promise rings of this kind are much of a phenomenon in most places. I am in NJ and don''t hear much about them...I figure that I have medical school, she is in graduate level school as well, an proposal would be something like five years off at minimum. This would be titled a promise ring, but seen as a pre-ering...A "place-holder(?)" if you will. It will of course not come with quite the presentation, speech, or other that an ering would.

That is not to say this will be one of those "I got you this" moments.

 

[Fly Girl]

Nice stone. That is one nice promise ring.

The diamond on my original e-ring was 0.21 ct.

ETA: We did get married right after college, and went to graduate school together. Those first 7 years were a great time together.

 

[coatimundi_org]

I think that will be one gorgeous promise ring!
Congratulations--you did a great job!
Please post hand shots later!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 2/6/2008 5:03:21 PM
Author: tickintime

Date: 2/6/2008 4:53:14 PM
Author: bem3231
The certs that you''ve chosen are great, but will you be looking for more of the same for the rest of the ring?

Knowing my personality, yes I would be looking for more of the same in a future ring. I guess it would be worthwhile to note that this would be something along the lines of 1.5ct+ center with one additional .5ct side stone.

The Price Stat ''thing'' stated that the .47 should be $8,000 for H&A, D, IF. This one is under half of that, so figuring a 2ct, D, IF says $28,0000 can I figure $20,000 for a paid price?

No, unfortunately that is not the way it works! When you get to 1 carat, then 1.5, then 2.0, the price of stones goes up a LOT!

Here''s the only 2 carat decently cut D VVS stone I can find, and as you can see, the price is $45,000!!!

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/D-VVS2-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-861220.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

The good news is that you could go to E VS1 or VS2 for the other stones quite easily and not be able to tell the difference.

1.55 E VS2 $18,100 http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/1171/


2.04 E VS2 $34,000 http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3089/

Or better yet, make the D IF into a lovely pendant and get her a solitaire of your choice!

 

[strmrdr]

yummy!
cut wise its pretty close too the stone I got for my wifey2b. (just as well cut, slightly different angles)

no comment on the d/if if that is what you want thats kewl with me.

 

[isaku5]

Date: 2/6/2008 4:50:27 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Well, I guess it''s a good kind of crazy! The bad part will be having to pay for more D IF-VVS''s to go with it if it becomes part of another ring!

But it''s certainly a beautiful stone

...however, I am not totally into this promise ring thing. If you are giving a half carat diamond ring, I think it appears more like an engagement ring and it will be perceived that way by others.

Ditto....We had matching "promise rings" before we were engaged, but thinking back they must have looked like wedding bands as they were 10k etched gold. Neither set of parents said a word, but I''m sure they were thinking of lots that could have been said

Currently when I see promise rings, they are tiny coloured gemstones or a very tiny diamond. If this relationship flourishes, I can hardly wait to see the engagement ring

 

[tickintime]

Hmm...all these comments have me second guessing. It seems that everyone is very "anti" D/IF...is this just the price, or the fact that you can''t see the difference unless under a microscope?

I think that promise rings such as the T&Co stacking rings, the B&M "promise ring" category, and other promise rings don''t look like much more than an ordinary ring to me. I am open to other ideas and will create a thread about it. I guess that will let me see what else is out there.

 

[metro]

Can someone please tell me what a promise ring is/means? I remember a while back, someone getting a HUGE 2+ "promise ring".

Does this mean you keep your promise to ___________???

Sorry if it''s a stupid question, I''ve just never really heard it.

 

[isaku5]

Date: 2/7/2008 3:03:03 PM
Author: metro
Can someone please tell me what a promise ring is/means? I remember a while back, someone getting a HUGE 2+ ''promise ring''.

Does this mean you keep your promise to ___________???

Sorry if it''s a stupid question, I''ve just never really heard it.

For FDH and me, it was the promise to be true to each other, and that our engagement would probably follow, but when I commented on a young lady''s (20''s) lovely left hand ring, she told me it was a promise ring from her BF. I was bold/rude enough to ask what the promise was that was associated with it and she replied "to be there for each other". I guess you can have it symbolize anything you want to

 

[Lynn B]

I tend to think of a promise ring as a "pre-engagement" ring... and I also tend to think of a small diamond as a part of it.

BTW, tickintime, no one around here is "anti D/IF"! We LURVE D/IF!

And for some of us, only D/IF (or close) will do.

But most of us do not have unlimited budgets (dang it anyway!), so we tend to want to put our $$$ where we can see it. Sure, I could have gotten a D/IF, but it would have had to be a whole lot smaller than the 2.36 I ended up with!

But, hey, if a D/IF floats your boat, then do it! We will love it and we will need a lot of pictures!

 

[tickintime]

I am thinking of going to a B&M (read as: FAR AWAY from the mall) and looking at stone sizes. I have a relative idea, but I would like to see everything from a .25 up to a 2.5... It would be nice to cut off her finger and bring it with, but that is not possible.

I liked the post about "What is Eye Clean" as it mentioned something regarding eye clean. This is where we are sitting. My budget is not unlimited (oh, how I wish it was...that kompressor is mighty nice!) but a .5ct D/IF is not awfully expensive (relatively speaking)...2.36 D/IF is a completely different story!

I am trying to walk a fine line between eye catching fire/sparkle/yummyness (I don''t think the average .01 mall promise ring is going to do that) and e-ring.

 

[Lynn B]

Oh, BTW, do you know that if you put it under high enough magnification, even an IF stone will have inclusions?

For some people that can be a good reality check when they are feeling the pull of allure of an IF stone.

(Silly Mother Nature, messing with us like that!

)

 

[tickintime]

I guess that is why they have FL above IF? Maybe we should make a DBR clarity too... Don''t Be Ridiculous

 

[DiamondExpert]

The FL clarity grade can have the same INTERNAL clarity as a stone with an IF clarity grade...A flawless diamond shows no inclusions or blemishes of any sort when observed by a skilled grader under 10x magnification.

IF grade applies to diamonds which show no inclusions at 10x, but which do have minor surface blemishes like surface grain lines, naturals, and extra facets on the crown.

On the other hand, it is possible that if these 3 blemishes are minor and are located properly on a stone with IF clarity, it can be given a FL grade.

FL can erode to IF through wear.

 

[tickintime]

Date: 2/7/2008 6:25:53 PM
Author: DiamondExpert
The FL clarity grade can have the same INTERNAL clarity as a stone with an IF clarity grade...A flawless diamond shows no inclusions or blemishes of any sort when observed by a skilled grader under 10x magnification.


IF grade applies to diamonds which show no inclusions at 10x, but which do have minor surface blemishes like surface grain lines, naturals, and extra facets on the crown.


On the other hand, it is possible that if these 3 blemishes are minor and are located properly on a stone with IF clarity, it can be given a FL grade.


FL can erode to IF through wear.

Thanks for the info Gary!! I think flawless is too strong of a word, if these are the criteria for being deemed as such.

 

[swingirl]

What a beautiful stone. It looks perfect! She''ll love it now AND when it''s part of the ering!!