GOG RB H&A 1.59 N VS1

[Rcobra03]

Recently I have been looking at this diamond:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4876/

I have watched the videos and Sarah at GOG has sent me some pictures of the diamond on a platinum setting and the stone looks amazing. Face up it looks perfect and because of its cut the stone looks lighter than the N color.

My question is, am I crazy thinking about getting an N colored diamond??

She wants the biggest stone I can get for my budget. My budget is around 7k including the platinum setting, so this would fit in my budget perfectly.

Should I get a smaller stone that is not as well cut and the I to J range or this beauty...

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/1/2009 3:21:19 PM
Author:Rcobra03
Recently I have been looking at this diamond:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4876/

I have watched the videos and Sarah at GOG has sent me some pictures of the diamond on a platinum setting and the stone looks amazing. Face up it looks perfect and because of its cut the stone looks lighter than the N color.

My question is, am I crazy thinking about getting an N colored diamond??

She wants the biggest stone I can get for my budget. My budget is around 7k including the platinum setting, so this would fit in my budget perfectly.

Should I get a smaller stone that is not as well cut and the I to J range or this beauty...

I don't think you are crazy at all! Personally I think these colour grades have a special beauty if the cut is great which this one has of course. As long as the colour is something you embrace and you don't mind some tint then a lower colour could be a good choice for you.

The thing is, do you know if your GF would mind having an N colour? As it is likely the diamond will show some tint, if your GF knows a ring is in the offing, it might be prudent to ask her how she feels about it. If you aren't sure then maybe an I or J colour might be a safer bet - I wouldn't sacrifice cut but look at lower clarity grades also to try to get the maximum size.

I love these colour grades but they aren't for everyone and as it is intended for an e-ring I would make sure first if you can that your GF would be fine with it.

 

[vespergirl]

Hmmm ... that really depends on your girlfriend. It is indeed a gorgeous stone, but personally, I would not have wanted a stone below J color. Even if it faces up pretty white, she may be color sensitive, and it may bother her. However, I have seen many lovely warmer stones, and they are beautiful in their own right, but they are not for everyone. Sorry to be the voice of dissent, but if it were me, I would rather have a smaller I or J color diamond.

 

[Rcobra03]

Nope...I am not sure. I know we talked about size and she told she would like something close to colorless. She did mention that it didnt matter if it was a G or a J that wasn''t important.

Now will that N color really come out when looked at sideways in the platinum band?? I guess it would depend on the lighting...not sure to be honest.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/1/2009 3:32:27 PM
Author: Rcobra03
Nope...I am not sure. I know we talked about size and she told she would like something close to colorless. She did mention that it didnt matter if it was a G or a J that wasn't important.

Now will that N color really come out when looked at sideways in the platinum band?? I guess it would depend on the lighting...not sure to be honest.

You will see some tint from the side, as to how much it would be best to ask Jon to give you his impressions of how the diamond looks in reality. I would really try to find out from your GF if you can, it is an incredible diamond thats for sure and if she is ok with it then great - but I think it would be best to check with her as it is her e-ring. Otherwise I would err on the side of caution and look at I or J and smaller with SI clarity if verified eyeclean by a trusted vendor.

ETA - I just saw she said she would like something close to colourless, in that case I would try to go with that and stick to the more usual colour grades unless she tells you otherwise.

 

[hearts-arrows_girl]

Wow! That 1.59 in the video looked amazing! I can''t believe how much scintillation and fire it had. But now, back to the color. That is a slippery slope. I have never seen an N in person, so I can''t really give an informed opinion. I would go to the "search" box above and put in N and read the posts from people regarding this. I''m sure the experts around here will weigh in, but I just wanted to comment on how beautiful your stone looked in the video. Good Luck!

 

[Dreamer_D]

I would really try to get her what she wants... and if she said close to colorless then get a smaller J colored stone.

Another option that I recall a previous poster trying is to pruchase this diamond and another in your price range but in her desired color range, get them sent to you loose and propose by letting your GF choose the diamond of her choice. She may not mind the larger stone's color, or she may prefer the smaller stone. Depending on your gf she could love this type of proposal, I know I would! ETA You would then of course return the diamond that you do not choose.

A second option is to show her the video as a sort of "Look at this! What do you think of these lower colors?" thing to feel out her impressions. I think if you just say, "Would you like an N?" she will say no, without having seen one.

But if it is romance all the way and you really want to surprise her, then play it safe and get her a J. This stone will most likely show "warmth" from the side and when viewed on an angle.

 

[mrscushion]

Date: 5/1/2009 3:44:33 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie
Another option that I recall a previous poster trying is to purchase this diamond and another in your price range but in her desired color range, get them sent to you loose and propose by letting your GF choose the diamond of her choice. She may not mind the larger stone''s color, or she may prefer the smaller stone. Depending on your gf she could love this type of proposal, I know I would! ETA You would then of course return the diamond that you do not choose.

A second option is to show her the video as a sort of ''Look at this! What do you think of these lower colors?'' thing to feel out her impressions. I think if you just say, ''Would you like an N?'' she will say no, without having seen one.

But if it is romance all the way and you really want to surprise her, then play it safe and get her a J. This stone will most likely show ''warmth'' from the side and when viewed on an angle.

What she said.

 

[Gypsy]

I think you should give her a choice. I saw propose with this one loose. And leave it up to her.

 

[Rcobra03]

If not this stone than what stone would you guys recommend in the 6k range (leaving about 1k for a platinum tiffany style setting)??

Size: as close to 1.5 as possible
Cut: Excellent/Ideal
Color: colorless (G-J)
Clarity: Eye clean

Thanks for the quick responses

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/1/2009 3:58:20 PM
Author: Rcobra03
If not this stone than what stone would you guys recommend in the 6k range (leaving about 1k for a platinum tiffany style setting)??

Size: as close to 1.5 as possible
Cut: Excellent/Ideal
Color: colorless (G-J)
Clarity: Eye clean

Thanks for the quick responses

I will take a look for you to see if there are any suggestions for suitable diamonds.

If this one is verified eyeclean it might be worth considering. It is smaller than you would like. It has medium blue fluorescence which is a nice benefit in a J colour I think.

http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-2105151.htm#

 

[poshpepper]

Date: 5/1/2009 3:39:33 PM
Author: hearts-arrows_girl
Wow! That 1.59 in the video looked amazing! I can''t believe how much scintillation and fire it had. But now, back to the color. That is a slippery slope. I have never seen an N in person, so I can''t really give an informed opinion. I would go to the ''search'' box above and put in N and read the posts from people regarding this. I''m sure the experts around here will weigh in, but I just wanted to comment on how beautiful your stone looked in the video. Good Luck!

Dont want to thread jack, but I paged you over in Hangout... https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/paging-hearts-arrows_girl.113889/

Okay, end threadjack

 

[thaihunt]

This one looks decent, and would cost $6410 with the Pricescope discount:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1214171.asp

Have you thought about white gold instead of platinum. My gf could not tell the difference b/w the two when we went ring browsing. That could save you some money.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 5/1/2009 8:49:34 PM
Author: thaihunt
This one looks decent, and would cost $6410 with the Pricescope discount:


http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1214171.asp


Have you thought about white gold instead of platinum. My gf could not tell the difference b/w the two when we went ring browsing. That could save you some money.

Has some under table leakage due to the shorter lower girdles and slightly steep/deep angle combo.

 

[honey22]

Date: 5/1/2009 3:32:27 PM
Author: Rcobra03
Nope...I am not sure. I know we talked about size and she told she would like something close to colorless. She did mention that it didnt matter if it was a G or a J that wasn''t important.

Now will that N color really come out when looked at sideways in the platinum band?? I guess it would depend on the lighting...not sure to be honest.

If your gf wanted something close to colourless, I wouldn''t go for the N coloured stone. I would be pretty disappointed, only because I prefer whiter looking stones. Warmer stones are just as beautiful but they have a different look, and if she requested near colourless, I would drop the size and aim for a higher colour. You could always upgrade later.

 

[thaihunt]

If you''re interested in the diamond I posted above, it would be worth asking James Allen to send you an idealscope image to verify whether and to what extent any light will leak. Post it here and the experts will let you know if it''s a keeper.

 

[Rcobra03]

What about something like this:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1143503.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

RB 1.51 J VS2
Depth: 60.2
Table: 59
Crown: 34
Pavilion: 41
Cut: Excellent
Polich: Excellent
Sym: VG

And according to the online HCA calculator its a 1.7

 

[thaihunt]

That one seems like it would be worth a closer look as well. It's closer to a 60/60, which a lot of people on this board seem to disfavor.. I'll let one of them explain why.

Have you gone into a jewelry store and compared different colored stones side by side? I did that with my gf, who also prefers a near colorless stone. We both agreed that an H and above was where we started to be turned off by color. I've been searching online myself and found some good deals on H's within my price range, so I revisited another store to compare colors. This time I compared H,G, and D, and found the H to be too yellow for my taste. Apparently, some people are more sensitive to color than others. Thus, for me, I would buy G or better for someone who is seeking a near colorless stone. But that's a personal preference thing, and I would recommend going into a store (preferably with your gf) and doing this same sort of test. Online it becomes too easy to justify going with a higher color grade b/c people say it "faces up white." Color preference is a very individual thing, and you should check it out in person if you can.

If I were in your shoes I would be looking for at least an H, probably VS2-SI1, and a smaller carat size (1.25-1.4) that has a larger spread (something in the 7.20-7.30 range) so it faces up larger. To me, that would seem like a good compromise.

 

[Phoenix]

Have you tried to contact Brian Gavin Diamonds? They might be able to help you. Here''s the link:

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com

If your GF said she wanted something near colourless then I agree N may be too far from her expectations. Also, ditto what someone else said about using WG instead of PT and saving the money to put towards the diamond itself.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/2/2009 10:39:40 AM
Author: Rcobra03
What about something like this:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1143503.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

RB 1.51 J VS2
Depth: 60.2
Table: 59
Crown: 34
Pavilion: 41
Cut: Excellent
Polich: Excellent
Sym: VG

And according to the online HCA calculator its a 1.7

Actually if you want a larger diamond on a budget this one could be worth further investigation. What I would do is ask James Allen for an Idealscope image of the diamond, if that checks out then it could be a definite contender.

 

[Rcobra03]

Here is the idealscope image.....Tell me what you guys think

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/7/2009 1:21:54 PM
Author: Rcobra03
Here is the idealscope image.....Tell me what you guys think

The image is good, maybe not up to the strictest standards of the top notch images we see regularly here. However the diamond shows good light return. If you want a larger diamond on a budget and are not looking for "perfection" then I see no reason to not consider it.