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General opinions on OEC lab & style ideas! Especially if you own a lab from Rhino Distinctive Gem

Johanna Arthur

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Hello friends!

I am working on a ring project for a 14k white gold, French cut sapphire halo ring with a 7.5mm (around 1.67 carat) center diamond. I want to do an Old European Cut diamond. I feel very strongly about doing a OEC, and don't care for RB in this vintage setting.
Here is the setting that I want, it is from Ivy and Rose Vintage.
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Since I am currently living in Southern California and supporting my hubby who is getting his doctorate, I don't have the funds for a 1.67 carat natural OEC diamond right now, yikes! Therefore: lab diamond!
I love Rhino's selection and customer service. I have purchased from him before, and I trust him and his products. I contacted him about doing a lab OEC and he replied right away and was happy to help me out. However, doing a lab OEC from Rhino in this size would be about $4,000. That's a little more than I was expecting for a lab. HOWEVER he guarantees his diamonds to be minimum VS and G-H color. And if the lab comes out whiter and brighter, you don't pay extra. I want a white diamond for this project.
I have reached out to Adam at Old World Diamonds (multiple times) and I am just not feeling the love with his customer service.... Plus his diamonds can be a little wonky and not perfectly round, which I need for this setting. (I do love wonky diamond though).

Does anyone have an OEC lab diamonds in general, or specifically from Jonathan at Distinctive Gem? Can anyone show me pictures?

My other idea was to from Estate Diamond Jewelry with their Tallis ring to "hold me over" until I can afford a diamond. This is $2,400, Platinum with a 1 carat aquamarine center stone. Basically the same design, half the price, with aquamarine. I am just worried that I won't love it because it's not a OEC diamond like I want, and that I will scratch the aquamarine to crap. I am not a gentle person on my jewelry, and have destroyed 1 garnet and 1 morganite so far. :(

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I have seen many other designs similar to this, but the center stone is smaller than what I'm looking for. I don't want to go below 1 carat for this project.
Anyhooos, does anyone have any labs from Jonathan at Distinctive Gem? Does anyone have any OEC labs from anyone?
 

Decision_Decisions

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I don't know what ring size you are but that setting has major presence! I have it in the 7mm center stone size, sized in a 5.5 and it takes up a ton of finger space. So you might be able to get away with a smaller stone.

Or perhaps you would consider moissanite? I did mine with an OEC moissanite from Tianyu and it's lovely!
20190918_081507.jpg
 

Johanna Arthur

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I don't know what ring size you are but that setting has major presence! I have it in the 7mm center stone size, sized in a 5.5 and it takes up a ton of finger space. So you might be able to get away with a smaller stone.

Or perhaps you would consider moissanite? I did mine with an OEC moissanite from Tianyu and it's lovely!
20190918_081507.jpg

OMG thank you for sharing, this is just the inspiration I needed to see!!! Omg I love it, it’s Phenomenal!! I have been thinking about doing a OEC moissanite, but wasn’t sure how it would look. Yours is perfect thank you for sharing!!!
 

OdetteOdile

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Hi Johanna, @muesli has a lab diamond AVR from Jonathan and it is gorgeous. Here is a thread that might interest you.

 

Johanna Arthur

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Hi Johanna, @muesli has a lab diamond AVR from Jonathan and it is gorgeous. Here is a thread that might interest you.

I love you guys, so helpful!! Thank you soooo much, that’s exactly what I wanted!
 

CHRISTY-DANIELLE

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I had that setting with an 8mm oec moissanite. It was gorgeous. Regret selling it! You might consider the moissanite route, save some money. In time you could replace the stone. Yes, bezeled stones can be unmounted, bezel rebuilt. Just a thought! I love the sapphire target rings, I'm excited for you!
 

vintageloves

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I love those target rings from Ivy and Rose. I agree that a European cut would be the ideal fit. I actually thought it was 4K for the deposit at DG not the finished price, and I think 4K for that size, considering the branded cut, is not a bad value. But only you know if it’s worth it to you.

I don’t like the aqua in that ring. Going with a European cut moissanite would cost about the same but also give you more the look you want and more durability.
 

Johanna Arthur

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I had that setting with an 8mm oec moissanite. It was gorgeous. Regret selling it! You might consider the moissanite route, save some money. In time you could replace the stone. Yes, bezeled stones can be unmounted, bezel rebuilt. Just a thought! I love the sapphire target rings, I'm excited for you!
Thank you! I will be sure to post the final outcome when it is complete ☺
 

Johanna Arthur

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I love those target rings from Ivy and Rose. I agree that a European cut would be the ideal fit. I actually thought it was 4K for the deposit at DG not the finished price, and I think 4K for that size, considering the branded cut, is not a bad value. But only you know if it’s worth it to you.

I don’t like the aqua in that ring. Going with a European cut moissanite would cost about the same but also give you more the look you want and more durability.
Thank you! I agree, I don’t *love* the aquamarine compared to how I would love a moissanite/diamond.
 

Johanna Arthur

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4k for a 7.5mm lab diamond sounds crazy to me. I'd get a moissanite for now.
I know.... I’m not really sure why it’s so much to be honest. Maybe because OEC are a fancy cut? I’m not sure. Or maybe because it’s from Jonathan and is stuff is brand name and has a reputation for being great? Who knows. I’m still trying to decide if that’s something I want to spend money on. :/
 

Phanie

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I don't know what ring size you are but that setting has major presence! I have it in the 7mm center stone size, sized in a 5.5 and it takes up a ton of finger space. So you might be able to get away with a smaller stone.

Or perhaps you would consider moissanite? I did mine with an OEC moissanite from Tianyu and it's lovely!
20190918_081507.jpg
Is the setting from Tianyu too?
 

oodlesofpoodles

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If you like the option for OEC moissanite I got a 8mm from Joseph Schubach Jewelers that is fabulous. I'm not sure if they have a smaller size but its worth asking. The one I got was not one of their branded cuts so I felt the pricing was reasonable. I liked that they were in the US and I wouldn't have to wait a long time for one to come from overseas and felt like a return, if needed, would be a lot less hassle. I called them directly since I had a lot of questions - you can see close up photos and a few videos of my stone in a setting if you search my post titled
For Sale Antique Platinum, Emerald, and Diamond Art Deco semi-mount Moissanite Ring

Here is their listing on ebay for more photos (call them to purchase and request their best price)
 

CHRISTY-DANIELLE

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Not the best photos, but here's my AVR moissanite. I happened to find a pic of my old Ivy and Rose sapphire target too...shown with the avr ring. The moissanite in the target was actually from Moissanite and Co. I liked the cut, but it was warmer than the AVR, even though the AVR was J/K and the MoCo was a "G/H"(dubious, but I like warmth so didn't bother me). 20200831_171319.jpg
 

muesli

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Hi Johanna, @muesli has a lab diamond AVR from Jonathan and it is gorgeous. Here is a thread that might interest you.

Thank you so much for mentioning my ring! <3

That Ivy and Rose-setting is absolutely stunning!!!
 

Slick1

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If you like the option for OEC moissanite I got a 8mm from Joseph Schubach Jewelers that is fabulous. I'm not sure if they have a smaller size but its worth asking. The one I got was not one of their branded cuts so I felt the pricing was reasonable. I liked that they were in the US and I wouldn't have to wait a long time for one to come from overseas and felt like a return, if needed, would be a lot less hassle. I called them directly since I had a lot of questions - you can see close up photos and a few videos of my stone in a setting if you search my post titled
For Sale Antique Platinum, Emerald, and Diamond Art Deco semi-mount Moissanite Ring

Here is their listing on ebay for more photos (call them to purchase and request their best price)
Wow! Schubachs sell loose stones now?! That’s a great thing to know. I’ve worked with them before. They have lovely items.
 

Johanna Arthur

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I love those target rings from Ivy and Rose. I agree that a European cut would be the ideal fit. I actually thought it was 4K for the deposit at DG not the finished price, and I think 4K for that size, considering the branded cut, is not a bad value. But only you know if it’s worth it to you.

I don’t like the aqua in that ring. Going with a European cut moissanite would cost about the same but also give you more the look you want and more durability.
Ohh I didn’t even think that the 4K would be just for the deposit ‍♀ doh! That might mess with my plans for sure if it’s over 4K... thank you for pointing this out!!!
 

muesli

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I didn't pay more than the deposit for my stone (I even got a larger one in the end as it took more time), but I don't know about anyone else.
 
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