Found the setting minus the diamond (Tiffany Solitaire)

[JamiSteven]

As it turns out I have finally come across a tiffany solitaire setting without the diamond. This is really what I have been looking for as it will help me save some cash to put towards our wedding and upcoming cross-country relocation to switzerland. I have a few questions before I begin my search for the diamond..

1. The ring use to hold a 1.30ct RBC, my girlfriend is adement about not having anything larger than .92 as she believes it looks to "blingy" on her small hands. Is this possible to fit that much smaller of a rock into the setting designed for a 1.30ct diamond?

Bare with me here, im a guy that works in IT for a living and im fairly new to all this!

2. I have seen users on this forum recommend IDJ, GOG, and a few others including bluenile etc to search for loose diamonds... But i want to make sure I am not leaving out any other possible options for diamond vendors.

Thanks in advance I am excited to show everyone the finished product!

 

[Jax172]

Do you mean an actual setting from Tiffany? That is a large difference in stone size and no you wouldn't likely be able to put that much smaller of a stone in the setting made for a 1.30 stone. Especially if it is a real Tiffany setting. Their classic setting is really made to "fit" the stone, there is not large air gaps between the setting and diamond.

 

[Niel]

I wouldnt use that setting if she doesnt want it to be that large of a stone. It will look a little bit wonky if they try to fit the prongs onto a smaller stone, if they would even attempt it.

that setting is just about the most classic setting for an e ring, it is sold all over, and for less. I would buy the setting and the stone at the same place..
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/classic-tiffany-style-knife-edge-18k-white-gold-5336w18

and they sell just absolutely fabulous diamonds, though id stick with the BG blues or the signatures.

 

[JulieN]

I would put this into the BGD half round or knife edge six prong that was posted above: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.714-h-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104062572015

Oddly says negligible fluorescence...

 

[MissGotRocks]

Is it an authentic Tiffany & Co. solitaire setting? Where did you find such a thing?

 

[allowingtoo]

I always like to look at this

http://www.ajediam.com/Sizes-of-Diamonds.html

 

[Niel]

do you have the budget for a larger stone and she just doesn't want one? Or is your budget about equal to what she is looking for? Because If you have a large budget for that size diamond I would have you consider special round cut stones. They are very interesting.

this one would be very special because of the color, clarity, AND cut


They could set it in this type tiffany style setting

 

[JamiSteven]

I wouldnt use that setting if she doesnt want it to be that large of a stone. It will look a little bit wonky if they try to fit the prongs onto a smaller stone, if they would even attempt it.

that setting is just about the most classic setting for an e ring, it is sold all over, and for less. I would buy the setting and the stone at the same place..
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/classic-tiffany-style-knife-edge-18k-white-gold-5336w18

and they sell just absolutely fabulous diamonds, though id stick with the BG blues or the signatures.

Yes, it is an actually authentic tiffany setting with original receipt, simply without the diamond. The diamond was taken out to be used in a different setting.

 

[Niel]

I wouldnt use that setting if she doesnt want it to be that large of a stone. It will look a little bit wonky if they try to fit the prongs onto a smaller stone, if they would even attempt it.

that setting is just about the most classic setting for an e ring, it is sold all over, and for less. I would buy the setting and the stone at the same place..
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/classic-tiffany-style-knife-edge-18k-white-gold-5336w18

and they sell just absolutely fabulous diamonds, though id stick with the BG blues or the signatures.

Yes, it is an actually authentic tiffany setting with original receipt, simply without the diamond. The diamond was taken out to be used in a different setting.

I understand what your saying, i just dont think it will look as good as a similar ring made to fit your actual stone from the beginning. Believe me a lot of people make that setting and it looks very similar. And they might have to modify the setting you have to fit the stone, and in that case its basically taking away the Tiffany name then anyways.

 

[MissGotRocks]

I wouldnt use that setting if she doesnt want it to be that large of a stone. It will look a little bit wonky if they try to fit the prongs onto a smaller stone, if they would even attempt it.

that setting is just about the most classic setting for an e ring, it is sold all over, and for less. I would buy the setting and the stone at the same place..
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/classic-tiffany-style-knife-edge-18k-white-gold-5336w18

and they sell just absolutely fabulous diamonds, though id stick with the BG blues or the signatures.

Yes, it is an actually authentic tiffany setting with original receipt, simply without the diamond. The diamond was taken out to be used in a different setting.

I'm curious - where did you find such a thing?

 

[JamiSteven]

I wouldnt use that setting if she doesnt want it to be that large of a stone. It will look a little bit wonky if they try to fit the prongs onto a smaller stone, if they would even attempt it.

that setting is just about the most classic setting for an e ring, it is sold all over, and for less. I would buy the setting and the stone at the same place..
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/classic-tiffany-style-knife-edge-18k-white-gold-5336w18

and they sell just absolutely fabulous diamonds, though id stick with the BG blues or the signatures.

Yes, it is an actually authentic tiffany setting with original receipt, simply without the diamond. The diamond was taken out to be used in a different setting.

I'm curious - where did you find such a thing?

I found it from an individual seller on an auction site, there have been two that have came up in the past two months in different auctions but this is very, very rare as not many people think to pull the original diamond out of an original tiffany setting (pretty ignorant in my opinion), but to each their own!

 

[JamiSteven]

I wouldnt use that setting if she doesnt want it to be that large of a stone. It will look a little bit wonky if they try to fit the prongs onto a smaller stone, if they would even attempt it.

that setting is just about the most classic setting for an e ring, it is sold all over, and for less. I would buy the setting and the stone at the same place..
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/classic-tiffany-style-knife-edge-18k-white-gold-5336w18

and they sell just absolutely fabulous diamonds, though id stick with the BG blues or the signatures.

Yes, it is an actually authentic tiffany setting with original receipt, simply without the diamond. The diamond was taken out to be used in a different setting.

I understand what your saying, i just dont think it will look as good as a similar ring made to fit your actual stone from the beginning. Believe me a lot of people make that setting and it looks very similar. And they might have to modify the setting you have to fit the stone, and in that case its basically taking away the Tiffany name then anyways.

I definitely see what your saying, my options at this point are to re-sell the ring/setting, fork out double the money on the diamond, or fit it with an alternative and wait till we are situated in a year or two's time to find the right rock (which by then we'll be in switzerland where they are a bit more pricey)

 

[JamiSteven]

do you have the budget for a larger stone and she just doesn't want one? Or is your budget about equal to what she is looking for? Because If you have a large budget for that size diamond I would have you consider special round cut stones. They are very interesting.

this one would be very special because of the color, clarity, AND cut


They could set it in this type tiffany style setting

Thanks for the information, I am definitely on a budget with this one as with everything in our lives at the moment due to the move and other financial responsibilities. I would like to keep it as close to a carat as possible.

 

[Niel]

what is your budget for the entire ring? Im thinking if she doesnt want a larger stone than you should try and follow her wishes. Youre past any return date?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Nope, can't use that setting for .90 diamond. It might have been possible with a setting that had a 1 ct. diamond, but it just won't work. If you aleady bought it, you'll have to resell it.

There are plenty of Tiffany repro settings. Good Old Gold and WhiteFlash sell the Vatche U-113 which many of us here have.

 

[ooo~Shiney!]

Hi !
I see by your thread that you are trying to pick something nice, but while keeping
in budget as well as being mindful of your girlfriend's wishes ....

I found this conversion chart on the "Helpful Threads" here :

http://www.myjewelz.com/diamond_carat_to_mm_size_chart.asp

So from this, you would be looking for a Round Brilliant diamond with
a spread of ~ 7.0 to 7.2 mm in order to fit your setting.
The spread for a diamond of *about* .90 carats would be about 6.4 mm ( less than that, actually, so let's say 6.0 mm)

That's a bit of a difference when setting a diamond, I think.

Were you looking for an exact Tiffany ring? Was that what your Girlfriend wanted?

Now I don't know your budget, but
Jewels by EricaGrace has a couple of Tiffany wedding sets available if you didn't mind a slightly
smaller stone / preloved set...
Erica and Grace are wonderful to work with and would get the rings all sized, polished up and ready to go.
Maybe they would even take your setting in as part of the cost....

not sure if these are in your budget but anyways, here's a link....

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/Jewelry/Modern-and-Estate-Pieces/Tiffany/22226452_X3GFmm#!i=1775150366&k=7CLJZck

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/Jewelry/Modern-and-Estate-Pieces/70ct-Tiffany/26744808_WQbNRR#!i=2243308178&k=XCZwHh3

 

[Niel]

heres tiffany one diamond included
http://doverjewelry.com/all-products/product/11138-tiffany-co-lucida-diamond-platinum-engagement-ring-0-84ct-i-vs2

 

[JamiSteven]

Nope, can't use that setting for .90 diamond. It might have been possible with a setting that had a 1 ct. diamond, but it just won't work. If you aleady bought it, you'll have to resell it.

There are plenty of Tiffany repro settings. Good Old Gold and WhiteFlash sell the Vatche U-113 which many of us here have.

Yes I have seen all of the replicas and unfortunately (this is just my opinion), the replicas are no where near the same as the original, they all have small subtle differences that when combined create a completely different appearance..

Either the prongs are too thick, or reach to far over the diamond at the top, or the knife edge is too much giving it a more industrial look..

I would really like to stick with the ring and search for the right diamond.

 

[motownmama]

If you said your budget, sorry - I missed it. My opinion, if you want to use this setting you have is to find a stone the absolute correct size for that setting. PLEASE keep in mind that diamonds tend to "shrink" over time. I think if your GF is comfortable around 1 ct than the 1.28 this setting needs will actually satisfy her in the long run. BEST of luck!!!

 

[LoveLikeCrazy]

Nope, can't use that setting for .90 diamond. It might have been possible with a setting that had a 1 ct. diamond, but it just won't work. If you aleady bought it, you'll have to resell it.

There are plenty of Tiffany repro settings. Good Old Gold and WhiteFlash sell the Vatche U-113 which many of us here have.

Yes I have seen all of the replicas and unfortunately (this is just my opinion), the replicas are no where near the same as the original, they all have small subtle differences that when combined create a completely different appearance..

Either the prongs are too thick, or reach to far over the diamond at the top, or the knife edge is too much giving it a more industrial look..

I would really like to stick with the ring and search for the right diamond.

Just keep in mind that if you are planning under a carat and the original is 1.28 ct, this is probably the look yours will have. Tiffany makes each setting proportionate to the diamond that is going into the setting. So with that much of a difference, assuming it even will work with a smaller diamond and look right...you will probably have the same problem that you are citing in the replicas.

I think buying a T&Co ring with diamond on the second hand market would be a better option...and theres plenty out there. the one at JBEG is a good choice.

 

[Laila619]

Nope, can't use that setting for .90 diamond. It might have been possible with a setting that had a 1 ct. diamond, but it just won't work. If you aleady bought it, you'll have to resell it.

There are plenty of Tiffany repro settings. Good Old Gold and WhiteFlash sell the Vatche U-113 which many of us here have.

Yes I have seen all of the replicas and unfortunately (this is just my opinion), the replicas are no where near the same as the original, they all have small subtle differences that when combined create a completely different appearance..

Either the prongs are too thick, or reach to far over the diamond at the top, or the knife edge is too much giving it a more industrial look..

I would really like to stick with the ring and search for the right diamond.

I agree with you JamiSteven, nothing quite comes close to the original Tiffany setting. So if it's really authentic, I would hang on to it! However my only worry is who would you get to set the diamond into the Tiffany setting? I'd be worried about a non-Tiffany jeweler ruining it. Do you have a competent jeweler you trust?

 

[JamiSteven]

Nope, can't use that setting for .90 diamond. It might have been possible with a setting that had a 1 ct. diamond, but it just won't work. If you aleady bought it, you'll have to resell it.

There are plenty of Tiffany repro settings. Good Old Gold and WhiteFlash sell the Vatche U-113 which many of us here have.

Yes I have seen all of the replicas and unfortunately (this is just my opinion), the replicas are no where near the same as the original, they all have small subtle differences that when combined create a completely different appearance..

Either the prongs are too thick, or reach to far over the diamond at the top, or the knife edge is too much giving it a more industrial look..

I would really like to stick with the ring and search for the right diamond.

Just keep in mind that if you are planning under a carat and the original is 1.28 ct, this is probably the look yours will have. Tiffany makes each setting proportionate to the diamond that is going into the setting. So with that much of a difference, assuming it even will work with a smaller diamond and look right...you will probably have the same problem that you are citing in the replicas.

I think buying a T&Co ring with diamond on the second hand market would be a better option...and theres plenty out there. the one at JBEG is a good choice.

Ill take this into consideration and I fully understand what you mean regarding the correct fit. Thanks!

 

[JamiSteven]

Nope, can't use that setting for .90 diamond. It might have been possible with a setting that had a 1 ct. diamond, but it just won't work. If you aleady bought it, you'll have to resell it.

There are plenty of Tiffany repro settings. Good Old Gold and WhiteFlash sell the Vatche U-113 which many of us here have.

Yes I have seen all of the replicas and unfortunately (this is just my opinion), the replicas are no where near the same as the original, they all have small subtle differences that when combined create a completely different appearance..

Either the prongs are too thick, or reach to far over the diamond at the top, or the knife edge is too much giving it a more industrial look..

I would really like to stick with the ring and search for the right diamond.

I agree with you JamiSteven, nothing quite comes close to the original Tiffany setting. So if it's really authentic, I would hang on to it! However my only worry is who would you get to set the diamond into the Tiffany setting? I'd be worried about a non-Tiffany jeweler ruining it. Do you have a competent jeweler you trust?

Thanks Laila! The ring came with an 'artificial' stone that the seller put it simply for perspective, this wont be staying in the ring but it may just have to until the real stone can be purchased to accomodate the large setting!

In the meantime I may just have to purchase a 2nd hand complete ring from a 2nd hand retailer such as the ones mentioned above.

Ill keep you all posted on the final outcome, many thanks to all who have chimed in!

 

[VRBeauty]

1) If your setting was made for a 1.3 ct diamond, then there's a possibility that it won't look right with a .92 diamond set in it. Everything about the basket is designed with the stone proportions in mind. Some of the proportions and details that have drawn you to the Tiffany ring in the first place will could get screwed up if you try to alter it to fit a smaller stone. That said, it looks like you'll be going from a ~7.0 mm stone to a ~6.4 mm stone. I suspect a good jeweler could make that work for you... just make sure you take it to a very good jeweler!

2) If your girlfriend has told you that she wants a less than 1 ct stone, then please honor that request and ignore us crazy size whores. She's the one who will be wearing the ring. And if she's not comfortable wearing a larger stone here, she'll be even less comfortable with that in Scandinavia, where smaller diamonds are the norm.

 

[MissGotRocks]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tiffany-Co-1-18-Total-Round-Brilliant-Diamond-Platinum-Engagement-Ring-H-VS2-/281062191654?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item41709cb226

Looks like a pretty stone - you could always make an offer! I don't know how she comes up with the .92 carat size being ideal but diamonds do shrink after a time - this one is over one carat and I'd definitely shoot for something more this size for a forever ring!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tiffany-Co-PLAT-Round-Diamond-Solitaire-Ring-1-05CT-/230668118925?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item35b4e42b8d

Another one in a smaller carat weight. . .

 

[LoveLikeCrazy]

Nope, can't use that setting for .90 diamond. It might have been possible with a setting that had a 1 ct. diamond, but it just won't work. If you aleady bought it, you'll have to resell it.

There are plenty of Tiffany repro settings. Good Old Gold and WhiteFlash sell the Vatche U-113 which many of us here have.

Yes I have seen all of the replicas and unfortunately (this is just my opinion), the replicas are no where near the same as the original, they all have small subtle differences that when combined create a completely different appearance..

Either the prongs are too thick, or reach to far over the diamond at the top, or the knife edge is too much giving it a more industrial look..

I would really like to stick with the ring and search for the right diamond.

I agree with you JamiSteven, nothing quite comes close to the original Tiffany setting. So if it's really authentic, I would hang on to it! However my only worry is who would you get to set the diamond into the Tiffany setting? I'd be worried about a non-Tiffany jeweler ruining it. Do you have a competent jeweler you trust?

this too!

Believe me, im waiting for my own tiffany solitaire, and even though i know i can get similar and bigger cheaper - i want the real thing. So i definately understand the value in authentic Tiffany.

The other thing to think about if you buy the ring second hand (ring and diamond) is that tiffany doesn't provide valuations anymore on 2nd hand, there was a thread on it recently https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/has-tiffany-changed-their-authentication-policy.183472/). I'm assuming the lifetime warranty and upgrade policy would not transfer since the ring is not in your name (someone please correct me if im wrong) I'm not sure if this matters to you at all? I am assuming it may not because you were looking into a non tiffany diamond in a tiffany setting. Just some more food for thought.

 

[Fly Girl]

I pulled this list of sizes for a Tiffany replica off of the Stuller website. Just to give you an idea of how closely they match the diamond to the head size.

 

[LoveLikeCrazy]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tiffany-Co-1-18-Total-Round-Brilliant-Diamond-Platinum-Engagement-Ring-H-VS2-/281062191654?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item41709cb226

Looks like a pretty stone - you could always make an offer! I don't know how she comes up with the .92 carat size being ideal but diamonds do shrink after a time - this one is over one carat and I'd definitely shoot for something more this size for a forever ring!

 

[Niel]

1) If your setting was made for a 1.3 ct diamond, then there's a possibility that it won't look right with a .92 diamond set in it. Everything about the basket is designed with the stone proportions in mind. Some of the proportions and details that have drawn you to the Tiffany ring in the first place will could get screwed up if you try to alter it to fit a smaller stone. That said, it looks like you'll be going from a ~7.0 mm stone to a ~6.4 mm stone. I suspect a good jeweler could make that work for you... just make sure you take it to a very good jeweler!

2) If your girlfriend has told you that she wants a less than 1 ct stone, then please honor that request and ignore us crazy size whores. She's the one who will be wearing the ring. And if she's not comfortable wearing a larger stone here, she'll be even less comfortable with that in Scandinavia, where smaller diamonds are the norm.

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