Fish Eye + Fluorescent

[loveitsilent]

Hello!
I just looked at 6 diamonds today, and believe I have picked out the one I want.

stats: .51, si2, D, Fluorescent blue

Now, when I got this under the light with 5 other diamonds, it had the nicest florescent property, which is something I wanted.

I did notice right away though, that it had a ring. I was informed that it was more shallow than any of the others, and it was a halo effect. She said it was called a fish eye. It happened to be one of the cheaper ones, but it stood out the most to me.
In the day light, we stepped out with another, and it just looked stunning to my naked non pro eye compared to another.

I am having an issue with it because photos online seem to be cloudy almost, like a fish eye, but this diamond wasn't cloudy in the sun, or inside.
The halo was under the black light, but it had the most brilliance.

So was it a true fish eye? Should I go with another diamond?
I am going to be keeping this diamond for about 5 years, so I don't want to settle for something when I still have other options.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Can you post the cert or the cert number, or at least the crown and pavilion angles and table and depth percentages? WHat lab graded the stone? I am suspecting not GIA/AGS from the flour label which is not used by those reputable labs.

Honestly, fish eye or a ring is a bad bad thing I would not even consider such a stone.

I also wonder, is D color with flour what you wanted? Or was this what was shown to you? Personally, I would drop color to G or so to increase clarity and also get a better cut (GIA Ex or AGS0).

 

[Circe]

I love fluor, too, and I wanted a high-color stone with fluor ... but I wouldn't go with a stone with the dreaded fish-eye. It shouldn't have anything to do with the stone looking cloudy (I'd chalk that up to a bad photo, frankly), but it will give you an unfortunate dead zone in the middle of the stone.

I think it's worth it to keep looking. Would you be willing to look online? It broadens your options considerably, and it's much easier with a round than with any other shape, because you can go by the numbers. What's your budget?

 

[loveitsilent]

I wanted the fluorescent, but was not SET on the color.

6 diamonds.
Color ranged from D to H.
Clarity range was vs1 to Si2.
Cut, I believe were all excellent.
Price range, $1200 to $2000.

I didn't ask any of these questions today that you have asked of me, and now feel a bit silly.
I sent them an email asking for the depth or angles and will post when I get it. I haven't paid for the diamond yet, and the final ring setting hasn't been made so I have some time to stall.


The other diamond I DID like was the one with the Vs1 rating, but it seemed to have the faintest fluorescent property.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Tell us your budget and the level flour you want and we can find you some comparables so that you have an idea of what else it out there, if you want.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Please read the Knowledge section on these topics.

 

[loveitsilent]

I read the following page before posting my first topic.
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-cut-fish-eye-effect/
The first line,

"A fish-eye is a nasty appearance that you can see just inside the table of a diamond. It looks slightly crazed and dull, just like a dead fishes eye."

This was my reasoning for posting. Under natural light, or day light, it didn't appear to have that above discription. Under the light, it was clouded around and only around the edges.


It also left me a bit confused because in the end, it leaves off by saying,
"A small amount of tilt to see a fish-eye is acceptable because these diamonds have a very good spread and look very big for the money. If the fish-eye can only be seen with 5 degrees or more tilt then we consider the diamond to be ideal."

I am guessing, possibly, that this may only be a small tilt, but without specs on the diamond, no one here can say for sure if it is worth taking or leaving.

 

[Circe]

Hey, LiS - I did a quick search using the PS engine for you. For a 2K budget, it looks like you could probably get an F-G, VS2-SI1 stone with strong blue fluor around .70. Most of the merchants offering stones in that range don't seem to be the ones with ASET etc. immediately available (Blue Nile, etc.), but you should poke around and see if any of them appeal to you and run the numbers through the Holloway Cut Adviser (located under "tools"). Once you weed out the undesirables, come back and you're sure to get more specific advice ....

 

[stone-cold11]

If it is cut graded by GIA as Ex, it would not exhibit fish-eye effect.

 

[stci]

No no to fish eyes! Really no no!

 

[MissGotRocks]

You definitely need to keep looking - there is much, much better to be had for the same $$!