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First ruby purchase: yay, meh or nay?

Discussion in 'Colored Gemstones' started by IcePhoenix, Aug 11, 2019.

  1. IcePhoenix
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 11, 2019
    Hello lovely PSers, hope you had/are having a good weekend. Today I would like to have your opinion on this tiny ruby I recently got off of ebay:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/VS-0-22ct-...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

    I know that the size is basically minuscule and the color is far from top, but I wanted to familiarize myself with a ruby and I thought "Heck, for 20 euros I might as well buy it". I trust the vendor (once he relisted an item because it was wrongly marked as unheated/untreated), bought from him before. I still don't have it in my hands so hopefully it's not too darker or different IRL

    Again any opinion is appreciated, you can be as brutally honest as you want :lol:
     
    


    


  2. VividRed
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    by VividRed » Aug 11, 2019
    Hello there!

    I think for 20 euros you can’t go wrong even buying glass. From the pictures it looks pretty and frankly whether or not it is treated (or synthetic), who cares? Again, 20 euros...

    If it really is from Mozambique, chances are it is untreated (or heated at most, all the filled material rarely comes from Africa given the abundance of clean material).

    Do you like it? Go for it :)
     
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    by VividRed » Aug 11, 2019
    Two remarks though:

    1. Funny that out of 9 pictures, 7 are related to the vendor’s credentials LOL. In all fairness, this little ruby would not need 9 pictures so who cares..

    2. It’s not top color, more like a deep pinkish purplish red. The combination or color and size can easily explain the low price.

    Have a nice Sunday and happy shopping!
     
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 11, 2019
    If the seller told the truth do you think is a fair price for that? Got a small deal or I overpaid?
     
    


    


  5. T L
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    by T L » Aug 11, 2019
    I suspect it will be heavily treated and/or look much worse IRL. Nice untreated rubies don’t cost $23. This seller can sometimes have very inaccurate vendor photos.
     
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  6. IcePhoenix
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 11, 2019
    Yes I know, I will post pictures when it arrives. I searched him on here and I saw complaints about photos, but I bought many stones from him (nothing crazy expensive; priciest one was ~ 200$) and I haven't had much problems at least not big enough to warrant sending something back.
    Is it totally impossible that the stone is untreated?
     
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    by T L » Aug 11, 2019
    It’s either untreated and looks like a pyrope garnet IRL or treated and looks like a dark ruby. He probably banks on people not testing such inexpensive gem purchases.
     
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    by voce » Aug 11, 2019
    I think it's very possible that the stone is untreated. Earlier this year I bought a 5x3 heat-only Burmese ruby for $30 from Litnon. Tiny gems don't move inventory that quickly, so they're steeply discounted. Your ruby is more about 4x3 in size, and for the non-ideal color, it's completely possible that you have something that's reasonably priced and affordable and untreated.
     
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    by VividRed » Aug 11, 2019
    My point was that I don’t think you can really overpay if you spend 20€ :) was it a huge bargain? Probably not either but again, what matters if what YOU think about it when you see it. Hope you will love it!
     
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 11, 2019
    I once had a 15$ purple-pink sapphire (0.60 cts) certified by GLC through him and it came back as unheated/untreated confirming the listing. When I told him I wanted to buy the certificate he didn't try to say stuff like "oopsies I lost the stone" or "nah you don't need it for such a cheap gemstone". Like I know that he himself offers the certificates and makes a few dollars of profit out of them and that GLC lab provides basic certificate (Be treated stuff comes back only with the indication of heating), but at least it doesn't look like a total bait thing
     
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  11. T L
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    by T L » Aug 11, 2019
    On eBay, I’ve gotten really lucky with spinels, tourmaline and sapphires, but that was ten years ago or more, and I never saw a ruby that wasn’t “fishy” to me for the price. Good luck though! I hope it pans out to be a good stone, and if not, it was only 23 Euros.
     
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 11, 2019
    Call me hopelessly hopeful but I'm cheering on you being right :lol: :mrgreen:
    Considering the colour and size maybe is not that crazy too hope so :mrgreen2:
    Did you like the gem?[/QUOTE]
     
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 11, 2019
    Damn, spinel and sapphire, that's too bad that 10 years ago I was in middle school. I would only buy from top rated sellers, preferably sellers that can send gemstones to labs. Of course I couldn't expect let's say a 3.5 cts tanzanite with top colour and clarity for 15 euros. The 30 days return window is nice as well
     
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 11, 2019
    If you lovely people don't mind I will post pictures when it arrives so you can give me your opinion once again :))
     
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    by VividRed » Aug 12, 2019
    Of course!
     
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    by KLC » Aug 12, 2019
    I really hope it looks better than the stone I received from that seller. It was nowhere close to the vendor's pictures and video. That said, I've heard others had good luck with him. And even if you end up returning it, he was very quick to refund.
     
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 13, 2019
    Ohhh, I remember your thread and I have to admit the colour in dim lights didn't look bad per se (teal is a very attractive hue for me) "just" very different from pics but in the sunlight it looked washed out. There are few factors that give me (a maybe misplaced) peace of mind (30 days return, possibility of buying a certificate, good feedback, a lot of feedback). Let's cross our fingers am I right? I bought other stuff from him and I'm deciding whether or not to buy the certificate for 2 stones (star spinel thread)
    Again I don't expect showstopping stuff, just some real stones to start my collection and maybe to have some simple jewellery made
     
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 22, 2019 at 1:51 PM
    Pic in various lights including in the setting sun, when seen in th 20190822_191641.jpg e normal light is darker. I don't know what to do, returning may mean 10-15 euros of shipping and it's not bad in direct light 20190822_193003.jpg 20190822_192943.jpg 20190822_193958.jpg
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    by distracts » Aug 22, 2019 at 2:29 PM
    That is about what I'd expect based on the vendor photo.

    I keep all my weird little learner stones that I don't really like around and plan to one day do a multi-stone bracelet or necklace with them. I think together they'll be greater than individually.
     
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 22, 2019 at 2:48 PM
    I thought of a small ring with this ruby and a .37 tsavorite (pear) from the same seller. But I'll have to think about it
     
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 22, 2019 at 6:19 PM
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    In the setting sun
     
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    by chrono » Aug 23, 2019 at 8:47 AM
    It costs far more to set these stones than the price of the stones. Consider it a learning stone and online buying experience in comparing actual versus vendor's beautiful pictures and move on.
     
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    by IcePhoenix » Aug 23, 2019 at 12:39 PM
    You are right, but I don't know if I will ever be able to afford stones more expensive than 500$ that are worth setting, so if I can get something cute and not overly expensive maybe I will :think:
     

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