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Final Thoughts and Over Budget!

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Fellor PS'ers, thank you very much for all of your input the past few weeks. As a result of this site, I now know quite a bit about diamonds. I am no expert but feel that my knowledge level is far beyond what it was when I first started searching.

Carat Weight: 0.97ct
Color: H
Polish: Ideal
Sym: Ideal
Cut: Ideal

Link: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10047/

Final Questions:

1. As it is an H color I know it will face up white. But will it be white from the side view (gallery view) as well? Kind of from this angle: http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m594/diamondsbylauren/2013_Diamond_Photos/01-2013-diamond-photos/r4958-double-halo-ring-e.jpg

2. This stone with the setting will cost me approximately $2K more than budget :( Is the extra cost worth it or should I go for something like the X factor from ERD? Note: My quote includes a CAD setting from ERD.

Thank you in advance!
 
Was you budget set for a reason? I'm usually one who says stick to a budget if it was set because that's the most you could pay.
 
Niel|1387566463|3578225 said:
Was you budget set for a reason? I'm usually one who says stick to a budget if it was set because that's the most you could pay.
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I agree. But I'm one of those people that thinks you shouldn't have debt for anything except a house and a car. I would only set a budget for what I could afford in cash, but everyone is different. Still, 2000 over budget is quite a bit depending on the original budget.
 
It is going in a halo, which will hide most of the side view. I would have the Brellia and a suitable B&N cushion sent to your house to view. Only then will you know if the extra $2000 is worth it.
 
Thanks for the replies!

I think I can afford to go the extra $2K but I want to ensure it's worth it. Am I get more value going with an amazing ERD X Factor + an ERD setting or with the Brellia + ERD setting. I would love to see both diamonds in person (i.e., X Factor vs. Brellia and/or BN vs. Brellia) but living where I do it's not feasible.

As a result, I guess my question should be, assuming $2K more for the Brellia, what would you pick based on your knowledge of the two types of diamonds? From some of the ASET's I have seen, the Brellia looks like it has no leakage, where the X Factor seems to have some (unless I am looking at the X factor aset incorrectly) - is this accurate?

I like the Berllia a lot, but is it worth $2K more?

thanks again!
 
Do you have a picture of the X factor?

I think the Brielle is pretty. But looks like a square round brilliant. Not a cushion. KWIM?
 
farmer gal|1387582538|3578375 said:
Just a thought but blue nile is now selling cushion HAs.

This one would be a about $1400 cheaper it measures larger and is G in color. It is a VS2 but should still be eye clean.

http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD03839038?keyword_search_value=LD03839038
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Do they all have that chubby look?!
That's the one reason I don't love briella cushions. They aren't pillowy. Their sides are too strait. If all the BN ones have those bulgy sides I'd be all over it.
 
All the ones I looked at had the pillowy shape.
 
That's an excellent point - I never noticed the straight sides before. I compared it to how the Tiffany Soleste looks and the Soleste has more a pillow look.

The X-Factor diamond would look something like this: http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/1.01-carat-f-vs1-x-factor-cushion-cut-diamond-gid-157126.html

Also, here is a video of the Brellia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOtWhrMRXRc&feature=c4-overview&list=UUe_V0Cpb5TXhi2j80WFLuLA

My issue with BN is that I can't see a proper picture of the diamond and I cannot speak to an expert who is actually looking at it in front of them. It would also be quite the hassle and costly for me to order and return.
 
The X factor is lovely and costs less.

Brellia's are very square.

If you like GOG, is there a reason this stone isn't in contention? http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10911/ plus its slightly bigger (not that it will matter in a halo, but still) and it's pillowy.
 
And you said you are having ERD make the setting? (PS whats the setting look like the link wont work for me)

If so id go for the X factor.
I think its very pretty. Also its cheaper, and it reaches over the one ct mark. Which its like, sure, its .5 ct difference, not much. but its a mind clean issue. A girl likes to say 1ct, KWIM?

Also its easiest to have the stone and the setting from the same place
 
Gypsy, thank you for the find!

Niel, the only thing I Was worried about was the ASET image. I agree buying from the same place would be nice! But isn't that leakage? and this is more like the setting: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/looking-for-loose-cushion-cut-diamond-for-engagement-ring.165128/page-2']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/looking-for-loose-cushion-cut-diamond-for-engagement-ring.165128/page-2[/URL] (similar to the Tiffany Soleste but a bit different)
 
I am not sure if I would pay extra for the Briella. It has very rigid lines and I am not huge on it for a cushion which has softer lines. I do like the H&A.
 
CharmyPoo|1387643082|3578711 said:
I am not sure if I would pay extra for the Briella. It has very rigid lines and I am not huge on it for a cushion which has softer lines. I do like the H&A.
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I showed my gf a picture of the brellia next to a more pillow like diamond and I think she liked the pillow one better. That said, she loved the sparkle of the H+A. Will an X-Factor or a GOG signature cushion have similar scintillation?
 
I dont think that X factor looks leaky. does he have a video of it for you?
 
Niel|1387644658|3578723 said:
I dont think that X factor looks leaky. does he have a video of it for you?
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Haven't asked, Chris presented that one to me but I was leaning more towards the Brellia...so I don't even have that one on hold.

Just curious - the diamond Gypsy mentioned (http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10911/) has a great looking at ASET, but the x-factor seems to have darker lines. Is that just the quality of the ASET image machine or is the ASET on the GOG better? I like the GOG but not a huge fan of the dimensions..she wants a more square looking cushion.
 
I'm pretty certain Blue Nile does keep their Signature Collection diamonds in house. You should be able to get a picture/have someone look at it in person for you. The linked diamond was part of the Signature Collection. Hope this helps!
 
I like the GOG signature cushion. I don't think it will appear too rectangular at all. Remind me of the setting style.
 
kmarla|1387659597|3578830 said:
I'm pretty certain Blue Nile does keep their Signature Collection diamonds in house. You should be able to get a picture/have someone look at it in person for you. The linked diamond was part of the Signature Collection. Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the tip! Anyone actually see a BN Signature Cushion in person? I can't find any videos or anything...
 
diamondseeker2006|1387665427|3578866 said:
I like the GOG signature cushion. I don't think it will appear too rectangular at all. Remind me of the setting style.
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Double halo cushion cut (similar to Tiffany Soleste)...like this [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/looking-for-loose-cushion-cut-diamond-for-engagement-ring.165128/page-2']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/looking-for-loose-cushion-cut-diamond-for-engagement-ring.165128/page-2[/URL]

Do you guys think that the GOG Sig. Modern Cushion or an X-Factor cushion will scintillate as much as the GOG Brellia?
 
Any thoughts on the above?

I pretty much stayed up until 5am last night thinking about this and haven't drawn any final conclusions!

The Brellia, through videos I have seen compared to a modern cushion posted by GOG, look outstanding! But the sides are fairly straight and my gf pointed out she likes the pillow look more. How can I get the same scintillation with another stone? Will a GOG signature modern cushion or an x-factor from ERD rival it?

Also, she likes the harmonious look where the center stone flushes with the halo - would this fact negate the straightness of the GOG sides?

I know it seems like I am leaning towards the GOG brellia, and I do not mind getting her something else, I just want to make sure I get her the best stone I can that sparkles like nuts :)
 
If she wants the halo to fit snuggly against the sides of the stone I would imagine that would emphasize the shape.

I think the performance extra you get from the briella isn't worth the 2k an having to settle on shape. I think they all would perform well. So it's not like choosing good over a dud.

Now between the GOG and the ERD, I'd go ERD as I think they seem comparable and I'd want them set from the same place.

Though I'd ask ERD for a video as I'd want to make sure that x wasn't dark all the time.

Or of not I like the normal GOG cushion.
 
Niel|1387726868|3579092 said:
If she wants the halo to fit snuggly against the sides of the stone I would imagine that would emphasize the shape.

I think the performance extra you get from the briella isn't worth the 2k an having to settle on shape. I think they all would perform well. So it's not like choosing good over a dud.

Now between the GOG and the ERD, I'd go ERD as I think they seem comparable and I'd want them set from the same place.

Though I'd ask ERD for a video as I'd want to make sure that x wasn't dark all the time.

Or of not I like the normal GOG cushion.
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Thank you Niel for your valuable input! I compared the ASET image of the ERD above to some of the others, for example this one, http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/1.50-carat-h-vs2-x-factor-cushion-cut-diamond-gid-155243.html,, and it seems that the ASET on the other ERD ( http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/1.01-carat-f-vs1-x-factor-cushion-cut-diamond-gid-157126.html ) has quite a bit of black. Now I am no expert but wouldn't that mean leakage and therefore less scintillation?

Thanks again for everyone's help...I just really want to make sure I get the 'perfect' diamond :)
 
ASET's need to be taken on white backgrounds so that the leakage can be easily seen. You are correct that black means leakage when the background is black, but I really can tell nothing about the ERD ASET images for the cushion you are interested in. I wouldn't buy that stone unless they retake the image on a white background so you can really compare the stones.
 
I don't know if it's leakage. It looks like obstruction.

Any chance you could have it shipped to you to review? Some places will ship it to you and pay to ship it back.
 
Without even asking Jonathan was shot this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-YYBlnkpcw&feature=youtu.be

Brellia vs. Modern Cushion. All-in w/ setting the modern is about $1K less compared to the Brellia. Options are as follows:

1. Buy Brellia (over budget so likely not going to happen). http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10047/
2. Buy Modern (which is still over budget but more or less doable) http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10911/
3. Wait for a Brellia that is perhaps smaller in ct size, lower clarity but same or better color OR source a smaller modern w/ better color through GOG or elsewhere.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!! and thanks for any replies!
 
I'd go for the modern cushion.
 
Would you have the same answer if the costs were equal? If so, any particular reason why you like one over the other? Thanks Gypsy!

Looking at that video they both look amazing. I guess I came in this thinking I NEED to get a DEF diamond but even after seeing two in person...D and an H, I really couldn't tell the difference.

Should I be concerned there is no AGS or GIA grading report on the modern..granted there is a facetware?
 
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