Feedback requested on this diamond

[Buschman98]

I'm a first time buyer and my only education is reading through all the information provided on goodoldgold and watching a bunch of their videos.

I'm looking for ~1.5 carat brilliant round cut. Definitely want excellent cut grade so I get the light and sparkle. I don't want any inclusions visible to the naked eye. If you can only seem them under a scope, that's not a problem for me. I thought I was an acceptable color for white gold, but I've been told that maybe it's a bit too yellow. At stores I had an extremely tough time telling the difference between G and I even. In the end, I want the thing to sparkle with brightness and fire most.

I'm trying to keep it near 15k, and this is what I found:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2708997.htm

The cut and dimensions seems really good. Any comments? How's the price seem?

I'm totally unsure what to do about the setting, however. I'm looking for white gold with diamonds on the band. I was leaning towards channel set going halfway around the band. I chose channel set because my girlfriend is very active and I fear losing diamonds set along the band that are more exposed. Do I need to get the setting from the place I buy the stone? Seems like its a big hassle if you don't. All of this is also completely without the girlfriend's input. I spoke to her mother and sister (who is her best friend) and she has never spoken to them about rings. However, she definitely shares tastes with her mom and sister.

Some other diamonds I considered are:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9352/ (this one is getting a little pricey though)

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8892/ (am I seeing the inclusion at 2-3 o clock?)

Any help is greatly appreciated! Any other sources I should check out besides the ones that pricescope lists on its diamond search?

Also, I'm from Philadelphia so if you know of a good local shop/source, please feel free to let me know! Thank you!

 

[hearts-arrows_girl]

I liked the Whiteflash I and the GOG SI1 G, the best. The E stone was nice, but I don't care for strong blue fl. med fl I don't mind. All 3 stones were great selections to choose from. I will keep watching to see which one you pick
.

 

[Buschman98]

Can you comment at all whether I is too yellow for a white gold setting? Also, I started checking out some diamonds that were a little smaller but has some pretty amazing looking contrast and a better color grade. For instance:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2721311.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2787736.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2696781.htm

Is there anything I can do through online to try to make a better determination?

Also, I understand that apparently where men usually go for the higher quality, women usually want the size. So, does that mean it's likely I is a good enough color and I should go for the larger stone?

Any help/suggestions are greatly appreciated! This is so stressful!

 

[Buschman98]

Also, if I look at the ideal scope photo for the whiteflash 1.532 ct I VS2
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2708997.htm

And I compare that to the DiamXray at goodoldgold for the 1.5 ct G SI1
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8892/

Am I even comparing apples to apples? Does the additional white of the ideal scope for the I VS2 stone mean its more leaky than the DiamXray for the G SI1? Or are these two images not comparable?

 

[hearts-arrows_girl]

I am not good at Ideal scope reading, so I can't help you with that. On the subject of I color, I have an I color Ideal cut stone and love it, but I am not color sensitive, so maybe you should go to a few stores and check out I color stones, to see what you think of them. Next to an E color, I am sure you can see the warmth in an I, but by itself, it looks very white. And I have it in a white gold setting, with a platinum head and G/H sidestones.

 

[Gypsy]

You don't need an idealscope for AGS0 diamonds. Largely irrelevant. Already been judged for light performance. If you want one that's fine. They are basically the same. That Idealscope of the GOG one does suggest leakage, a small amount. So does that I VS one from WF.

I would take the G. Personally.

 

[yssie]

Also, if I look at the ideal scope photo for the whiteflash 1.532 ct I VS2
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2708997.htm

And I compare that to the DiamXray at goodoldgold for the 1.5 ct G SI1
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8892/

Am I even comparing apples to apples? Does the additional white of the ideal scope for the I VS2 stone mean its more leaky than the DiamXray for the G SI1? Or are these two images not comparable?

Did you go through the GOG brillianteering article and thread with pics and video that I linked in your other thread?

DiamX is GOG's version of IS pic - same thing, just better/easier to get photos with good detail.

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I'm a first time buyer and my only education is reading through all the information provided on goodoldgold and watching a bunch of their videos.

I'm looking for ~1.5 carat brilliant round cut. Definitely want excellent cut grade so I get the light and sparkle. I don't want any inclusions visible to the naked eye. If you can only seem them under a scope, that's not a problem for me. I thought I was an acceptable color for white gold, but I've been told that maybe it's a bit too yellow. At stores I had an extremely tough time telling the difference between G and I even. In the end, I want the thing to sparkle with brightness and fire most.
Depends on your/her vision and tolerance (preference, rather). I would be just fine with an I of that size in white metal. Some body colour may be noticeable compared to the white metal on close inspection but to anyone looking at it and admiring it it'll just look white and sparkly...

I'm trying to keep it near 15k, and this is what I found:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2708997.htm

The cut and dimensions seems really good. Any comments? How's the price seem?
Looks fine, hearts pic asymmetry looks like photography issue, price is fine for this brand

I'm totally unsure what to do about the setting, however. I'm looking for white gold with diamonds on the band. I was leaning towards channel set going halfway around the band. I chose channel set because my girlfriend is very active and I fear losing diamonds set along the band that are more exposed. Do I need to get the setting from the place I buy the stone? Seems like its a big hassle if you don't.
It's easiest, otherwise you have to deal with getting the loose stone insured for shipping and setting, the extra time and expense of shipping from one vendor to another and outside stone setting fees, vendors pointing fingers if something does go wrong...

All of this is also completely without the girlfriend's input. I spoke to her mother and sister (who is her best friend) and she has never spoken to them about rings. However, she definitely shares tastes with her mom and sister.

Some other diamonds I considered are:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9352/ (this one is getting a little pricey though)
Don't like this one at all, poor optical symmetry

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8892/ (am I seeing the inclusion at 2-3 o clock?)
yes

Any help is greatly appreciated! Any other sources I should check out besides the ones that pricescope lists on its diamond search?

Also, I'm from Philadelphia so if you know of a good local shop/source, please feel free to let me know! Thank you!

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Can you comment at all whether I is too yellow for a white gold setting? Also, I started checking out some diamonds that were a little smaller but has some pretty amazing looking contrast and a better color grade. For instance:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2721311.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2787736.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2696781.htm

Is there anything I can do through online to try to make a better determination?

Also, I understand that apparently where men usually go for the higher quality, women usually want the size. So, does that mean it's likely I is a good enough color and I should go for the larger stone?

Any help/suggestions are greatly appreciated! This is so stressful!

They all look nice. What do you mean by "contrast"?

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2709001.htm
1.52 H, VS2 AGS0 1.1 HCA $18,479
61.2% depth
57% table
40.7 pavilion angle
34.7 crown angle
My concern here is the picture of the diamond shows a lack of detail. Things seem washed out in general and around the perimeter I can't really see contrast in the facets compared to other stones. For instance, check out the difference in this stone's busyness compared to the next one.
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2666574.htm
There's so much more going on in this one, but the inclusions in the table may be a bit much for me.

Slight differences in photography setup/lighting and/or differences in post-photography editing/printing - nothing to do with the stones at all, not to worry. The stone will not be "washed out" or have "indistinct" features IRL. Hearts are nice.

 

[sleeprequired]

You don't need an idealscope for AGS0 diamonds. Largely irrelevant. Already been judged for light performance. If you want one that's fine. They are basically the same. That Idealscope of the GOG one does suggest leakage, a small amount. So does that I VS one from WF.

I would take the G. Personally.

Hi Gypsy,

can you point me towards where you see the leakage and what it looks like please... interesting

 

[Gypsy]

You don't need an idealscope for AGS0 diamonds. Largely irrelevant. Already been judged for light performance. If you want one that's fine. They are basically the same. That Idealscope of the GOG one does suggest leakage, a small amount. So does that I VS one from WF.

I would take the G. Personally.

Hi Gypsy,

can you point me towards where you see the leakage and what it looks like please... interesting

I'm not sure I'm seeing it. I was hoping Yssie would comment or someone else. It's late here and my eyes are all watery from hay fever tonight.

 

[yssie]

You don't need an idealscope for AGS0 diamonds. Largely irrelevant. Already been judged for light performance. If you want one that's fine. They are basically the same. That Idealscope of the GOG one does suggest leakage, a small amount. So does that I VS one from WF.

I would take the G. Personally.

Hi Gypsy,

can you point me towards where you see the leakage and what it looks like please... interesting

I'm not sure I'm seeing it. I was hoping Yssie would comment or someone else. It's late here and my eyes are all watery from hay fever tonight.

Oh yuck, feel better Gypsy! It's pretty late here too it's not just you though. I haven't seen many like the GOG actually - we do occasionally get people looking for RBs with little discernible patterning...


I'm not gypsy obviously, but sleep - by "leakage" we mean parts of the stone where the facets allow light to escape through the bottom or sides, instead of reflecting internally and returning out the top. The pale/white areas in the photo show parts of the stone that let the input light (red b/c of the IS walls) escape instead of forcing it to reflect internally and return out the top http://www.ideal-scope.com/



Some amount of "leakage" is normal. Since the scope only has one eye but we actually look at the stone with two, some amount of "leakage" that the scope picks up on will go unnoticed IRL and so isn't anything to worry about, and then there are the sieve stones - [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/freaking-out-hca-came-back-as-fair.130388/page-2']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/freaking-out-hca-came-back-as-fair.130388/page-2[/URL]

 

[Gypsy]

Yssie, the GOG stone in the IS (and the WF stone also) both have lighter pink under the table. At least that's what I see on my monitor with my rheumy eyes. So I'm not going crazy? Both those are showing a small amount of leakage.

 

[yssie]

Yssie, the GOG stone in the IS (and the WF stone also) both have lighter pink under the table. At least that's what I see on my monitor with my rheumy eyes. So I'm not going crazy? Both those are showing a small amount of leakage.

No, I see it too, in both (you mean this one right http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2708997.htm) The WF - I can't imagine it'd have any real-world effect on appearance, but for someone who is looking for "mind-clean" I could see it becoming a sticking point. The GOG - well - either someone's looking for exactly that or exactly the opposite, I guess!

 

[Gypsy]

Yssie, the GOG stone in the IS (and the WF stone also) both have lighter pink under the table. At least that's what I see on my monitor with my rheumy eyes. So I'm not going crazy? Both those are showing a small amount of leakage.

No, I see it too, in both (you mean this one right http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2708997.htm) The WF - I can't imagine it'd have any real-world effect on appearance, but for someone who is looking for "mind-clean" I could see it becoming a sticking point. The GOG - well - either someone's looking for exactly that or exactly the opposite, I guess!

Whew. Okay. I hate posting stuff like that and then end up being wrong. If you see it I know I'm good. Thank you Yssie for the back up. I appreciate it.

 

[yssie]

Yssie, the GOG stone in the IS (and the WF stone also) both have lighter pink under the table. At least that's what I see on my monitor with my rheumy eyes. So I'm not going crazy? Both those are showing a small amount of leakage.

No, I see it too, in both (you mean this one right http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2708997.htm) The WF - I can't imagine it'd have any real-world effect on appearance, but for someone who is looking for "mind-clean" I could see it becoming a sticking point. The GOG - well - either someone's looking for exactly that or exactly the opposite, I guess!

Whew. Okay. I hate posting stuff like that and then end up being wrong. If you see it I know I'm good. Thank you Yssie for the back up. I appreciate it.

Hugs, my fellow friday pre-dawn PSer

 

[Christina...]

The images of the stone reminded me of the one used in this example. You may find the article interesting.

http://goodoldgold.com/4Cs/NewCutGrading/GIAExAGSIdeal/

 

[sleeprequired]

ok thaks for that... so basically if you're looking at an ASET, regardless of how bright or different it is from vendor to vendor, as long as it doesn't have white where it's not supposed to then you're good. Right.. Looking at all ACA's and BGD i guess that explains why i wasn't seeing any bad ASETS then...