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Engagement ring NIGHTMARE

kkay481

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I am new to this forum, but was referred here by someone on weddingwire, because I have had quite an experience with my engagement ring. I will take you all through the steps of everything that happened, although I cannot use names or business names because it has become a legal matter.

May 3, 2012 -- Original purchase of engagement ring

June 24, 2012 -- Proposal

June 25, 2012 -- took engagement ring back to jeweler it was purchased from because one of the small diamonds on the band fell out.

June 25, 2012 -- Noticed remarkable difference in color of center diamond in the ring upon receiving it back from being "repaired" from original jeweler, also the center diamond was so loose I could move it around with my finger.

June 29, 2012 -- expressed yellow color to friends/family/fiance, they all agreed.

July 3, 2012 -- Took the ring to a different jeweler to have it looked at and the appraisal that came with the ring compared to the ring. Woman told me that it seemed very shady, that the appraisal didn't match the ring at all.

July 3, 2012 -- Went to the original jeweler the ring was purchased from and confronted them. Owner told me to leave and asked me to never come on his property again.

July 3, 2012 -- I leave, he calls a few minutes later saying "We can make this right". Offers to let me choose between a few different diamonds he can have available soon.

July 4, 2012 -- Go to original jeweler and look at ONE diamond they had for me to see, and it was the same color, clarity etc. So there was no point. At this point, they offered to me to have the setting re done so the center diamond wasn't extremely loose.

July 5, 2012 -- Called in the morning to original jeweler and asked when I could bring ring in to be re set, and then was denied service, said they wanted nothing to do with me.

July 5, 2012 -- Submitted complaint to BBB.

July 5, 2012 -- Owner of original jeweler called me and said he "Knew i submitted a complaint to BBB and that I needed to have the complaint extracted IMMEDIATELY." And if I complied he would supply me a GIA cert stone.

July 6, 2012 -- Called BBB and had complaint retracted.

Eventually my fiance and I got a lawyer involved because the owner was threatening us, etc. So lawyers were involved, I got the GIA cert stone, and signed a paper saying I wouldn't talk about him or his business for 3 years.

My fiance and I took the stone and my original setting to another jeweler to have it mounted. It was mounted, and we went on our way. A few weeks after the stone was mounted, another one of the small diamonds on the band fell out. So, I took it back to the second jeweler that mounted the GIA stone and they sent the ring off to be repaired. I was charged $50 only because the ring was originally purchased from this jeweler. I had the ring maybe 2-3 weeks and my center stone was loose again. I took it to the jeweler, they sent it off and had the prongs tightened.

I am now no longer wearing the ring, because I have come to the conclusion that it is not very well made. I am afraid to wear it and lose any more diamonds. We have not insured the ring because I refuse to wear it at this point. I am tired of the drama and am so upset that our engagement was practically ruined because of all of the things that have happened with the ring. I have put the ring in a safe, and am thinking about selling it to a jeweler to get rid of it. I can barely even stand to look at it now being that it has put us through so much financial hardship and pretty much ruined our engagement.

We decided we were going to have it re set, take all of the diamonds out of my setting I have now, (because the setting is the problem) and re set the same diamonds in a completely new setting. Well, I went to a jeweler the other day and they quoted me at least $1,000+ for just a setting without any diamonds in it. I was floored.

So, now I am at a crossroads. I don't want to sell it to a jeweler for scrap because we will only get $1,000. But we don't have $1,000+ to shell over to have it re set and also pay for the labor.

Advice? :/
 
Do you have pictures of your setting?

Depending on the setting style, 1k is likely to be a totally reasonable price. Much of the cost with settings having many little diamonds in them is the labor of setting them, not the diamonds themselves. If you do not have the money for that, why don't you take the center diamond out and have it set into a simple $300 solitaire for the time being, and revisit with a new setting later, perhaps after your wedding or for your first anniversary?
 
That really is a nightmare and I am so sorry you have had to deal with this when it should have been a happy time.

It is hard to advise you now because it is so much easier when people come here BEFORE they buy a ring. We tell people to never buy a diamond that isn't GIA or AGS graded because that is your protection in knowing exactly what you are paying for, plus it identifies your stone making it hard for someone to switch the stone.

What style setting is it? Is it platinum or white gold?

I am also a little confused. Were both the stone and setting bought from the bad jeweler? I wish you had insisted on a return rather than a switch of the diamond and keeping the poor quality setting.
 
Welcome to Pricescope, you will find a wealth of expert advice here about all manner of diamonds and jewelry. It sounds like you made a poor choice of jeweler only to make the same mistake again. I'm not an expert but reading your story I wanted to offer some non-jewelry related thoughts.

You can't change what happened. You can choose how it affects you, and you are letting a small piece of metal/carbon affect how you feel about your engagement and your overall emotional state. Think about your partner, find some joy in your relationship.
 
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Unfortunately I didn't do much research before we purchased the ring. The setting is 18k white gold.
 
@quaddio -- I am happy in my relationship.... lol, we have been dealing with this together. Yes, we did make a poor decision on where we purchased the ring, but how were we supposed to know that prior to doing so? We have been dealing with this for the past 2 months, and have been handling it very well if I may add.
 
Your ring is very pretty - it's a shame you have had such a bad experience with it!

And ooookay, looking at your setting, I am surprised that you would have to spend merely 1k to have it remade. Pave settings and halo settings are really things that must be done very well in order for stones to not be loose, and many local jewelers just do not have the experience to do them. You really can't skimp out on the workmanship in the same way you can with, say, a solitaire. I have been trying to find a premade setting that's similar but even in 14k gold (which I would NOT recommend for a pave ring, though it's fine otherwise) they are all at least $1500.

You should NOT have it remade by a local jeweler unless you can find many detailed testimonials online attesting to the quality of their pave work and their amenability with repairs, otherwise you are just setting yourself up to have the same problems. And yes - this is how you avoid those problems in the first place, by doing research online and finding vendors who make quality products and handle any problems that come up in a professional manner. The other way to do it, which I have done to find a local jeweler since there are so few reviews online, is to bring in small projects and watch how they handle them - usually you can tell if they're at least decent before committing to have the work done. And be sure to ask for examples of their work, and ask detailed questions about repairs, repair costs if it was a defective setting, costs for replacing melee stones, the rate at which settings similar to yours that they have made have problems, etc. I prefer to also use jewelers that have benches on site (if they send it out to another company, see if you can talk to a representative from that company, ask your jeweler how they ensure that company meets quality standards, etc), have laser welders, and allow me to talk to the benchperson (or people). If they can't answer these questions or get cagey, move on to a different jeweler. That doesn't mean you won't have problems, but hopefully if you do they will be dealt with in a professional and mature manner. And after you get your ring, you can have it independently appraised to ensure the workmanship quality is up to snuff and the diamond is what is was sold as, and you can condition your sale on the results of the appraisal. Basically, as Gypsy always says, don't do less research on your engagement ring than you would do on a car purchase. It sounds like a lot of work, but it's also a lot of money, and when it goes wrong, as you found out, you can be up a creek without a paddle.

What is the mm size and carat size of your center stone, and your budget for a new setting? We can try to find one that will work for you.

Another thing you could do is take it to an independent appraiser, have them see what the problem is with the prongs and the loose stone, and see what they'd recommend done to fix it. Just from looking at your picture, I think the center stone is set pretty high, and I'd personally want it set lower, especially with WG prongs, because of the risk of knocking or putting extra pressure on a stone that sticks out. It looks like the stone SHOULD be able to be set lower in the setting, since the prongs go straight up instead of up and out, and that could fix the center stone problem. But this is advice from someone who is not a professional jeweler or appraiser and who has not seen the ring in person.
 
At this point we were only wanting to put another $500 in the ring. We have already bought the ring, and have put another $1000 or so in it because of lawyer fees etc. So, at this point that is all we can do. But I have been talking to my fiance about it and he said we may be able to put some more into it, but not for a little while. The only thing about the setting being up high is that was what I liked about the ring in the first place. The halo part is set right on the band, if the halo had a larger bottom where it sat up higher itself, I would be okay with my diamond being set lower. But if it's set lower how the setting is now there would be nothing I like about the ring at all....

Hope I am making sense.. thanks
 
The measurements of my center stone are 4.90 x 4.64 x 3.35 mm... .63 carat
 
Just wanted to say I'm sorry you had to go through all this.

I hope eventually you have a ring that you can look down at and feel wonderful about.

I'd chalk it up to live and learn.
And if you ever go shopping again read Pricescope a lot first.
 
Sorry to hear about the issues with your ring. Unfortunately, it is going to cost more than $1000 to get a quality halo. Here are some options for you to consider:
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER8130W44JJ $740, can be made for princess, not a halo but cute
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER8020W44JJ $1150 can be made for princess
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7499W44JJ $1400, but check with Good Old Gold and ID Jewelry to see if they can do a better price
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER5429W44JJ $1390
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7266W44JJ $1490
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER4269W44JJ $1140 and has side stones
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER8003W44JJ $1225 not a halo, but lovely, can be for princess
 
I'm so sorry you're going through this! I know when you get engaged all you want to do is show off your ring, and you're not able to do that!

I want to say, though, that as others have already posted, it will unfortunately cost a bit more than the $500 you wanted to spend to replace the setting. Quality settings (i.e. settings that do NOT lose stones all the time) cost money, and I'd suspect that the shady jeweler that sold you the original setting didn't sell you a quality piece. This is definitely one of those cases where you get what you pay for. I think that I wouldn't even try to salvage the smaller stones, because you'd have to pay a jeweler to do custom work using them, which is what the real cost would be. I'd just try to just save up your money and buy a new setting that is already made. Make sure to do your research and buy something that will hold up this time. The folks here have already given you some great suggestions!
 
I'm so sorry that you are going thru this. It sounds similar to what went through a couple of years ago. Is the jeweler in NYC by chance? I hope that everything works out in your favor and you can move onto happier wedding planning.
 
Wow. That sucks, and sorry you have to go thru this.


However, I would NOT have taken my complaint back. Why? Cuz he did you DIRTY and he knew it. Then you took action and he got scared? If you don't do anything wrong, you don't need to cut deals with people. I would re-complain. As long as YOU don't complain, perhaps your fiance can or your mom, but I'd ream that guy a new one. Fvck him.
 
I am so sorry you are going through this. What an awful, rotten jeweller! :angryfire:

I really wish you had taken the switched centre stone and your original stone's certificate to the police. This person stole from you, committed blatant fraud.
Please get someone else to file a complaint with the BBB. This person is a criminal and others need to be warned.

I second the motion to just get a simple solitaire mount now and save up for a well made pave halo reset later. Or keep the solitaire and save for a blingy eternity for an anniversary.

I hope you can put the bad feelings behind you, and have a ring that makes you happy. :D
Congratulations on your engagement! :appl:
 
^^Jane, I don't think that she had an original certificate with the first stone, only an the jewelers appraisal stating what he 'thought' the stone was. (?) It's the number one reason we always suggest that people buy with an AGS or GIA report. Had this been this case in the first place then she would have been much better protected.

KKay: I'm so sorry that this has happened to you, I would be heartbroken as well. The good news is that now you have a GIA stone and can feel protected when you send your diamond out to be reset in the future. I wish that you had decided to return the ring for a full refund instead of an exchange on the diamond, then you could have simply started the purchasing process over and avoided a lot of hassle. Of course hindsight is 20/20, and now you can only move forward, and at the very least with a GIA stone.

As far as the setting goes, I thought the same thing as the others. You won't be able to get a quality halo setting within your budget. I agree that your best option is to have the stone set in a beautiful solitaire setting for now and then reset once you've had the opportunity to save up. You could chose a blingy diamond wedding band to pair with the solitaire to give it some extra punch, and perhaps use the gold and diamonds from the original engagement ring to help offset the cost?

I truly hope that this is resolved soon for you so that you can move on and enjoy your engagement and wedding planning. It should be such a happy time for you and it makes me sad that it has been tainted by this experience.
 
Can your lawyer make it happen that you get a full refund and the ring goes back to him? That's the only way I'd not speak of them for 3 years.
 
ame|1347284957|3265154 said:
Can your lawyer make it happen that you get a full refund and the ring goes back to him? That's the only way I'd not speak of them for 3 years.

It would take a full refund plus attorney fees to shut me up.

I am sorry this was not resolved to your satisfaction. As others have suggested, save up for a new setting. I am glad you are moving forward.
 
GirlyGirl|1347322879|3265651 said:
ame|1347284957|3265154 said:
Can your lawyer make it happen that you get a full refund and the ring goes back to him? That's the only way I'd not speak of them for 3 years.

It would take a full refund plus attorney fees to shut me up.

Plus a non-disclosure agreement, here.
 
I would not be done with this til I had a full refund and this settled to MY satisfaction. Don't worry about his feelings or reputation, he sure wasn't. Get your money back and start elsewhere and give him the finger.
 
Gypsy|1347323661|3265661 said:
GirlyGirl|1347322879|3265651 said:
ame|1347284957|3265154 said:
Can your lawyer make it happen that you get a full refund and the ring goes back to him? That's the only way I'd not speak of them for 3 years.

It would take a full refund plus attorney fees to shut me up.

Plus a non-disclosure agreement, here.

+1, i'm so sorry this happened
 
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