Emerald cabochon - does this inclusion pose structural problems?

[voce]

I'm with you, @Autumn in New England

I want jadeite one day, but not being anywhere near places where there are fine jadeite specimens, I still haven't dipped my toes in because I don't feel confident buying online from halfway around the world in case the jadeite doesn't meet my expectations. I've also got chubby fingers, so no ring of standard size from Asia would fit me.

Emerald cabs will have to be enough for now.

 

[Pomelo]

I got the wax for my spess today (sorry to lump everything together in this emerald thread!) and it’ll go back for some adjustments, but I’m excited for it. It looks almost incandescent

 

[Dreamer_D]

I got the wax for my spess today (sorry to lump everything together in this emerald thread!) and it’ll go back for some adjustments, but I’m excited for it. It looks almost incandescent

Love this organic feel! Curious what changes you requested.

 

[Pomelo]

Love this organic feel! Curious what changes you requested.

I asked for these “cups”(?) holding the stone to be shrunk slightly as I felt like it obscured the stone too much, but reiterated that everything needs to be super secure! There is a hidden band/bridge at the bottom between the two shoulders for structural integrity which I forgot to take a photo of…

 

[Autumn in New England]

Love this organic feel! Curious what changes you requested.

You took the words right out of my mouth! This is a nature lover's dream...

 

[Dreamer_D]

You took the words right out of my mouth! This is a nature lover's dream...

It looks like an ember straight out of a volcano!

 

[Autumn in New England]

It looks like an ember straight out of a volcano!

Doesn't it?! It's bringing me back to jurassic times!! This is something that is special about freeform cabs that you just don't get from faceted stones or even traditionally cut cabs.

 

[HollyC]

I asked for these “cups”(?) holding the stone to be shrunk slightly as I felt like it obscured the stone too much, but reiterated that everything needs to be super secure! There is a hidden band/bridge at the bottom between the two shoulders for structural integrity which I forgot to take a photo of…

Love love love this. Think this will be my favourite ring on PS!

 

[Pomelo]

Love love love this. Think this will be my favourite ring on PS!

Hehe thanks, that’s a high accolade, hope the final product doesn’t let us down lol

 

[HollyC]

Hehe thanks, that’s a high accolade, hope the final product doesn’t let us down lol

I’m sure it won’t. You are very talented and your flair for design is amazing

 

[Pomelo]

Friends, my pebble is here and I love it!!

But… I need your help.

I saw the jeweller assemble this and it turns out that because they’re worried about the fragility of emerald and also because I wanted this bezel set… the stone is actually glued into the setting They didn’t want to take the risk of hammering it into a setting.

They’ve told me that it’s special jeweller’s glue which is used on pearls to secure them to any backing (I did a bit of googling and it looks like it’s epoxy glue), and so there is no risk that it falls out.

But… I’ve also seen jewellers apply a bit of heat to a pearl ear pin and the pin pops right out.

Have any of you experienced glued-on precious gems before? What would you do in this instance?

I’m torn because I don’t want prongs to alter the aesthetic, but I’m willing to live with prongs if it means the stone won’t fall out…





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[Rfisher]

How high would the prongs or bezel need to be, due to the angles on the sides of the cabochon, to hold it in place without the glue?

What style of prongs would you find acceptable aesthetically?
Low & wide like this comes to my mind - but not be what you want


You only found out about the glue afterwards? If so - I know it’s frustrating, been there.
Being involved in the decision making, tradeoffs, consequences & options available - I feel is something that should be included for a custom project when epoxy is thrown in the mix.
If you knew in advance bezelling was risky to the emerald - would you choose to go ahead and accept the burden of that risk?

The ring is lovely. Live with it for now and if the epoxy ever waivers (check it like you would any pronged stone) you can then change your design to accommodate a bezel lip or prong?

 

[Pomelo]

How high would the prongs or bezel need to be, due to the angles on the sides of the cabochon, to hold it in place without the glue?

What style of prongs would you find acceptable aesthetically?
Low & wide like this comes to my mind - but not be what you want


You only found out about the glue afterwards? If so - I know it’s frustrating, been there.
Being involved in the decision making, tradeoffs, consequences & options available - I feel is something that should be included for a custom project when epoxy is thrown in the mix.
If you knew in advance bezelling was risky to the emerald - would you choose to go ahead and accept the burden of that risk?

The ring is lovely. Live with it for now and if the epoxy ever waivers (check it like you would any pronged stone) you can then change your design to accommodate a bezel lip or prong?

Thanks!

Low and wide would be how I’d want the prongs to be, but ideally no prongs and just bezel (or rather, the mount and epoxy if the epoxy is actually secure!).

If the jeweller had told me there was a risk to bezel setting then I would’ve asked around and visited a few more benches, but they seemed confident… sigh. Tbf it’s also because I didn’t know what questions to ask and indeed that I should’ve asked about a “proper” bezel rather than a “bezel effect”

ETA: I’m not really sure how high the prongs would need to be, it’s not really something I’ve pondered or come across before. Here are the side views

 

[Lentibulariaceae]

Friends, my pebble is here and I love it!!

But… I need your help.

I saw the jeweller assemble this and it turns out that because they’re worried about the fragility of emerald and also because I wanted this bezel set… the stone is actually glued into the setting They didn’t want to take the risk of hammering it into a setting.

They’ve told me that it’s special jeweller’s glue which is used on pearls to secure them to any backing (I did a bit of googling and it looks like it’s epoxy glue), and so there is no risk that it falls out.

But… I’ve also seen jewellers apply a bit of heat to a pearl ear pin and the pin pops right out.

Have any of you experienced glued-on precious gems before? What would you do in this instance?

I’m torn because I don’t want prongs to alter the aesthetic, but I’m willing to live with prongs if it means the stone won’t fall out…





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If it’s what I would expect it is (GS hypocement) I wouldn’t worry too much. I use it for jewelry and insect pinning purposes and it is very secure. Mind cleanliness is also important though, and if it’s going to worry you, have it redone. I actually think that claw prongs would not ruin the look here.

 

[toomuch8]

I asked for these “cups”(?) holding the stone to be shrunk slightly as I felt like it obscured the stone too much, but reiterated that everything needs to be super secure! There is a hidden band/bridge at the bottom between the two shoulders for structural integrity which I forgot to take a photo of…

I know its wax, but this color combo really reminds me of this Munsteiner piece.

I LOVE this piece, and I think I'm slowly being more and more drawn to organic shapes - at least in certain materials. Ok, here the organic piece is the chalcedony. But still lol. Kind of counts.

Friends, my pebble is here and I love it!!

But… I need your help.

I saw the jeweller assemble this and it turns out that because they’re worried about the fragility of emerald and also because I wanted this bezel set… the stone is actually glued into the setting They didn’t want to take the risk of hammering it into a setting.

They’ve told me that it’s special jeweller’s glue which is used on pearls to secure them to any backing (I did a bit of googling and it looks like it’s epoxy glue), and so there is no risk that it falls out.

But… I’ve also seen jewellers apply a bit of heat to a pearl ear pin and the pin pops right out.

Have any of you experienced glued-on precious gems before? What would you do in this instance?

I’m torn because I don’t want prongs to alter the aesthetic, but I’m willing to live with prongs if it means the stone won’t fall out…





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Absolutely beautiful I love the matte finish and the emerald!

All I know about glue and jewellery is from this on briolette setting, there is an explanation if you scroll down a bit:

Briolettes

Cutters of faceted gemstone BRIOLETTES in matched and single pieces. Ultrasonic Drilling.

www.briolettes.com

Basically, if i recall correctly, the correct adhesive combined with high surface area (from the metal being rough/not smoothed out, and/or the top of the briolette being intentionally left unpolished or made to be unpolished-like and rough-like intentionally) = very secure due to high surface area and strong adhesive. I am not sure how to analyze your ring based on this, obvs I am far from an expert.

The site above has more info that may be relevant/helpful even in your context.