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Do you now think Trump will lose in Nov?

Do you now think Trump will lose in Nov?

  • Yes

    Votes: 61 57.0%
  • No

    Votes: 42 39.3%
  • Other, please explain

    Votes: 4 3.7%

  • Total voters
    107
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Dancing Fire

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Biden is so concern about the virus that he doesn't get tested himself... :roll:
 

mrs-b

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Last election, I thought Trump was going to win. Not from watching the polls - but from reading the comments from Joe Public on online articles. You could see a swell of support for Trump growing, and a swell of disapproval growing towards Clinton.

But I think Biden will take it this time - at least at this point in time. But 4 months is a heck of a long time in politics - so who knows?
 

1ofakind

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Biden is so concern about the virus that he doesn't get tested himself... :roll:
Biden said he doesn't want to jump ahead in the testing line....but every single person he comes into contact with is tested. I get it, trump does the same....but Biden acts like he's magnanimous and saving a test. The number of tests he's 'saved' =1. The number he's used is likely hundreds!
 

MissGotRocks

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No way to know at this point. Four months is a long time - particularly with all of the upheaval facing us all now. The press and the polls had Hilary winning last time so until the polls close and the votes are all counted, who really knows?
 

nala

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I never doubted Trump would win the first time bc of the racial divide that he was promoting—build the wall—and I knew that we Latinos were the target. As a Latina, I felt that other minorities would not acknowledge his blatant racism bc it didn’t affect them—Latinos were clearly the target of the wall. So what has changed? I think that Covid has awaked Asians to the racism that many had long overlooked bc it didn’t affect them. I think that now that Asians have experienced this racism for themselves and now the BLM has started a revolution—there is hope. I see a lot of young passionate millennials flooding social media and if they actually vote—it will be close—but Biden might win.
 

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AGBF

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This is from an article in "Newsweek". Some people postulate that Vice-President Biden will win both the popular election and get the electoral votes to win election but not be allowed to assume office.There are Constitutioal and quasi-Constitutional ways, with the assistance of Bill Barr that he could effect this.
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"Anti-Trump Groups Plan Campaign Against President Amid Fears He Won't Leave Office If He Isn't Re-Elected"

"Liberal activist groups are not only preparing for election day on November 3—they are organizing for what may come the day after.
Concerns among progressives—and even some Democrats in office—that President Donald Trump may lose the November election yet dismiss the results or refuse to relinquish his power are so prevalent that organizations are forming a coalition to educate voters and "mobilize" millions of Americans to demand a peaceful transfer of power.
'We're sounding the alarm that the threat Trump poses to our democracy is very real,' Stand Up America President Sean Eldridge told Newsweek.

The liberal activist group is teaming up with Indivisible, another grassroots progressive organization, to launch its new 'Protect the Results' initiative, plans of which were first shared with Newsweek.
'The writing is on the wall: Trump has spent the last 3.5 years undermining our democracy, ignoring our institutional norms,' Indivisible Co-Executive Director Ezra Levin said. 'He's already trying to sow the seeds of that trend after November 3.'
While the mobilization effort may seem outlandish by some—an American president has never refused to vacate the Oval Office in U.S. history—the fears among at least some Democrats and anti-Trump figures are very real.

In addition, former Vice President Joe Biden has said he is confident that Trump is "going to try to steal this election."

'I'm absolutely convinced they will escort him from the White House with great dispatch,' the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee said during a Wednesday night appearance on The Daily Show With Trevor Noah.
Former Trump attorney Michael Cohen, who was sentenced to three years in prison for tax, campaign and bank crimes, presented his apprehensions to lawmakers last year. "Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that, if he loses the election in 2020, there will never be a peaceful transition of power," he testified.

Some Democrats on Capitol Hill have similar anxieties.
'I wouldn't rule out anything the president may do because he's broken all the norms, traditions and values,' said Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.).

Senator Cory Booker went a step further: 'I would sooner die than to see my nation's constitutional tradition of peaceful transfers of power to be vacated by a demagogue who won't humble himself,' the New Jersey Democrat told SiriusXM's The Clay Cane Show on Wednesday.

The suggestion that Trump may try to subvert the 2020 election is not without merit, Democrats and activist groups said. Those concerns have been heightened amid Trump's handling of the racial injustice protests over the killing of George Floyd, a black man, by a white police officer in Minneapolis.

They point to recent events they view as deeply troubling, such as current and former military officials publicly distancing themselves from the president and condemning him in the wake of federal forces aggressively dispersing peaceful protesters outside the White House for Trump's church photo-op.
And the president has spoken, on social media and in public remarks, about extending his term past the two-term constitutional limit.

In 2016, then-candidate Trump suggested he would not accept the election results. After his victory, Trump falsely claimed he won the popular vote and said—without evidence—that 'millions of people...illegally voted.'
Democrats and activists have also highlighted Trump escalating his attacks on voting by mail in recent months, in which he has claimed—without evidence—there is rampant voter fraud, a notion that local GOP officials have refuted.

'He wasn't joking when he teargassed peaceful protesters for a photo-op," Levin said. "This is a real concern people have.'
Stand Up America and Indivisible will use a combination of national digital ads and joining forces with more organizations to create a call to action, including work strikes, protests and pressuring elected officials to 'stand up for our democracy and denounce any attempts by Trump to undermine the outcome of the election.'"

 
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jordyonbass

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I thought that Bernie Sanders would have posed a bigger threat to Trump than Biden would and that was before the global pandemic; now that we're in the midst of Covid, I think Sanders would have been an even bigger threat again.
Unfortunately I don't think it will be even close come voting time.

Just how I see it from across the big pond.
 

Daisys and Diamonds

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I think Bernie is way too much of s socialist to get enough of the vote in America
The American left is not really as left as it is here or in the UK so Bernie would be seen as way too radicallly left for too many
plus another old man
plus i don't like all that screaming and yelling he does
 

Mekp

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I think Bernie is way too much of s socialist to get enough of the vote in America
The American left is not really as left as it is here or in the UK so Bernie would be seen as way too radicallly left for too many
plus another old man
plus i don't like all that screaming and yelling he does
I think Bernie should come up to Canada. He'd be very politically centre here. It cracks me up that he's seen as so left in the States.

To answer the question, I don't think Trump will get another term.
 

Dancing Fire

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:o As of now only 3 votes separating between yes/no. The PSer Dems aren't very confident of Biden beating Trump in Nov.
 

Karl_K

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This is from an article in "Newsweek".
YellowLeak are a bunch of id 10 ts who are doing a fine job of stirring the pot it looks like.
A federal judge swears the next president in and there is nothing the former president can do about it he/she is no longer president.
He will step down at the appropriate time if he loses.
There is literally nothing to be gained by not doing so.
 
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Dancing Fire

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A federal judge swears the next president in and there is nothing the former president can do about it he/she is no longer president.
He will step down at the appropriate time if he loses.
There is literally nothing to be gained by not doing so.
Yup he must!. is ridiculous to think otherwise.
 

OboeGal

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This is from an article in "Newsweek". Some people postulate that Vice-President Biden will win both the popular election and get the electoral votes to win election but not be allowed to assume office.There are Constitutioal and quasi-Constitutional ways, with the assistance of Bill Barr that he could effect this.
.
"Anti-Trump Groups Plan Campaign Against President Amid Fears He Won't Leave Office If He Isn't Re-Elected"

"Liberal activist groups are not only preparing for election day on November 3—they are organizing for what may come the day after.
Concerns among progressives—and even some Democrats in office—that President Donald Trump may lose the November election yet dismiss the results or refuse to relinquish his power are so prevalent that organizations are forming a coalition to educate voters and "mobilize" millions of Americans to demand a peaceful transfer of power.
'We're sounding the alarm that the threat Trump poses to our democracy is very real,' Stand Up America President Sean Eldridge told Newsweek.

The liberal activist group is teaming up with Indivisible, another grassroots progressive organization, to launch its new 'Protect the Results' initiative, plans of which were first shared with Newsweek.
'The writing is on the wall: Trump has spent the last 3.5 years undermining our democracy, ignoring our institutional norms,' Indivisible Co-Executive Director Ezra Levin said. 'He's already trying to sow the seeds of that trend after November 3.'
While the mobilization effort may seem outlandish by some—an American president has never refused to vacate the Oval Office in U.S. history—the fears among at least some Democrats and anti-Trump figures are very real.

In addition, former Vice President Joe Biden has said he is confident that Trump is "going to try to steal this election."

'I'm absolutely convinced they will escort him from the White House with great dispatch,' the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee said during a Wednesday night appearance on The Daily Show With Trevor Noah.
Former Trump attorney Michael Cohen, who was sentenced to three years in prison for tax, campaign and bank crimes, presented his apprehensions to lawmakers last year. "Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that, if he loses the election in 2020, there will never be a peaceful transition of power," he testified.

Some Democrats on Capitol Hill have similar anxieties.
'I wouldn't rule out anything the president may do because he's broken all the norms, traditions and values,' said Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.).

Senator Cory Booker went a step further: 'I would sooner die than to see my nation's constitutional tradition of peaceful transfers of power to be vacated by a demagogue who won't humble himself,' the New Jersey Democrat told SiriusXM's The Clay Cane Show on Wednesday.

The suggestion that Trump may try to subvert the 2020 election is not without merit, Democrats and activist groups said. Those concerns have been heightened amid Trump's handling of the racial injustice protests over the killing of George Floyd, a black man, by a white police officer in Minneapolis.

They point to recent events they view as deeply troubling, such as current and former military officials publicly distancing themselves from the president and condemning him in the wake of federal forces aggressively dispersing peaceful protesters outside the White House for Trump's church photo-op.
And the president has spoken, on social media and in public remarks, about extending his term past the two-term constitutional limit.

In 2016, then-candidate Trump suggested he would not accept the election results. After his victory, Trump falsely claimed he won the popular vote and said—without evidence—that 'millions of people...illegally voted.'
Democrats and activists have also highlighted Trump escalating his attacks on voting by mail in recent months, in which he has claimed—without evidence—there is rampant voter fraud, a notion that local GOP officials have refuted.

'He wasn't joking when he teargassed peaceful protesters for a photo-op," Levin said. "This is a real concern people have.'
Stand Up America and Indivisible will use a combination of national digital ads and joining forces with more organizations to create a call to action, including work strikes, protests and pressuring elected officials to 'stand up for our democracy and denounce any attempts by Trump to undermine the outcome of the election.'"

Welp.......that's terrifying.
 

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A relevant quote from Oliver Cromwell to Neville Chamberlain:
“You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!”
 

vintageloves

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Yes. I think he will lose. He will lose both the popular and electoral vote. He will leave office. He might make a stink about it but he’s not going to stage a coup.
 

rainydaze

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Once in a while I will get a solid premonition-like confidence that something is going to happen, even though it's a toss-up based upon information/circumstances. I didn't have that confidence that Trump wouldn't win last time around, but I also couldn't fathom that he would actually win. This time around, I still don't have that confident feeling about an outcome, one way or another. I wish I did, man how I wish I did.

If he does lose - and I hope to the ends of the earth that he does - he'll go out saying it was fake news that he lost, that voters were bussed in from Canada and Nambia (yes, Nambia, and yes, bussed), and that billions and billions of Americans voted for him regardless of the popular vote (or our country's population).
 

Jambalaya

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There are probably enough stupid people that will vote for him, until you guys work out how to put up a half decent candidate (from either side of politics) that everyone actually wants to vote for......
Obama was much more than a half-decent candidate, and Hillary was, too - and she got 3m more votes than Trump, so....We have had them in recent years. Just not in this election.
 

scouty

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He's desperate to win and will go to any length including:
- Purging voter registrations
- Closing polling places
- Preventing mail-in ballots during a pandemic
- Threatening to close USPS who delivers said ballots

If he's down in the polls:
- Try to postpone the election

If he doesn't win:
- Refuse to leave office and then tear gas protesters (again)
 

Daisys and Diamonds

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Last time i completly dissmised Trump
the OH was really mad because i had assured him Hillary would win and he had got used to the idea of Hilary being leader of the free world
Boy was i wrong
 

joelly

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I agree, Biden is as exciting and entertaining as watching paint dry. :knockout:

But shame on us all for caring about that more than things that should apply to what is arguably the most important job in the world.
It doesn’t mean it has to be boring.
 

Spring Day

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Seriously. At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kanye won, and they film his inauguration as the finale to the Kardasians’ show.
Ugh... that’s a whole another shit show that we don’t wanna get into. But the point is that if Kanye runs, the people that could have voted for Biden that were on the fence aka younger generations will vote for Kanye. But the Trump supporters will always be Trump supporters and his numbers won’t go down which puts him in the lead. This is all just Kanye’s ploy to get Trump elected and it’s just a big pile of shit.
 

OreoRosies86

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I feel somewhat bad for Kanye. He’s bipolar and surrounded by people who don’t seem invested in helping him in any real way.
 
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