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Diamonds by Dino - Fraudsters - Avoid!

Discussion in 'Colored Stones' started by LD, Dec 1, 2012.

  1. LD
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  2. minousbijoux
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    by minousbijoux » Dec 1, 2012
    LD: did you see the post I just made to the other thread? They go by The Loose Diamond also. I am sure they must use other names as well in order to sustain themselves in the business, don't you think?

    Dino: Why don't you pay us a visit and explain yourself? You have a standing invitation to show us you're not the fraudulent, corrupt coward you appear to be :saint:
     
  3. justginger
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    by justginger » Dec 2, 2012
    Good thinking, LD. Hopefully this will alert people who Google for Diamonds by Dino or diamondsbydino or The Loose Diamond that they're potentially purchasing from a big fat fraudster. :nono:
     
  4. DianaS
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    by DianaS » Mar 11, 2013
    They also go by the following names:

    bridalqueenjewelry
    blueapplediamonds
    naturaldiamondcenter
    diamondsbydino
    majestic_diamonds
    naturalpinkdiamonds.

    Hope this helps!
     
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    by monkeydogsundog » Mar 11, 2013
    Since this guy clearly can't be selling rings that were auctioned off at sotheby's and whatnot, what do you think the customers are getting instead?
     
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    by aaronl » Mar 12, 2013
    The listing for the $500K ring says, "Every item is custom made from scratch and it will take time up to 21 business day", so in the case of a ring I expect they're getting a cheap knock-off. The equivalent of the proverbial $20 Rolex.

    For some of the other pieces, I have to wonder if he ships the actual item in the photograph and hopes that the buyer doesn't verify that they received what they ordered.
     
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    by JewelFreak » Mar 12, 2013
    They're not even getting knockoffs. I put this on the other thread but it is better here:

    Wondering how they supply a customer anything remotely resembling their stolen photos, I looked up complaints against them. It seems they don't bother with similarity. This is from a complaint board.

    They operate under 4 different names: DiamondsbyDino, TheLooseDiamond, Blue Apple Diamonds, The Natural Diamond.

    Here is the complaint, posted just 2 days ago. Don't know why they aren't in jail!



    "DIAMONDS BY DINO
    Posted: 2013-03-10 by ds2

    FALSE ADVERTISING / PRODUCT ISSUES / FRAUD


    Contact information:
    THE LOOSE DIAMOND INC
    California
    United States
    ALSO KNOWS AS:THE LOOSE DIAMOND INC

    Los Angeles, California
    United States

    THELOOSEDIAMOND.COM


    I PURCHASED THE FOLLOWING ON EBAY FROM BLUE APPLE DIAMONDS (ALSO KNOWN AS NATURAL DIAMOND CENTER, THE LOOSE DIAMOND INC, DIAMONDS BY DINO)

    2.41 tcw Princess Certified H VS2 Diamond Three 3-Stone Engagement... (140887730069)
    center diamond: 0.91 ct VS2 H
    additional 1.50 ct in setting, all VS2 H color

    I received:

    1.61 tcw Diamond Three 3-Stone Engagement ring
    .90 ct center (approx) I1 clarity, fracture filled and J color
    additional 0.70 ct in setting
    but with a false certificate and appraisal claiming:
    2.41 tcw Princess Certified H VS2 Diamond Three 3-Stone Engagement ring
    center diamond: 0.91 ct VS2 H
    additional 1.50 ct in setting, all VS2 H color

    This company is famous for selling you one thing and sending out something completely different with false certificates and appraisals.
    Anyone who leaves negative feedback on EBay for them is bribed (they will give money) into removing it.
    After 4 months of back and forth with them, including sending the ring back and receiving another claiming to be a VS1 G (actual is SI2 at most) they have stated that there is nothing else they can do to remedy and it is not their fault if I am not happy with what I have purchased. They are content to leave it at that as I waited patiently for them to remedy the situation and by then my time was up for leaving EBay feedback
    CHECK BBB BEFORE PURCHASING !!! BUSINESS NAME : THE LOOSE DIAMOND INC"
     
  8. GregS
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    by GregS » Mar 12, 2013
    I messaged them a while back feigning interest in one of their stones. I asked for a handshot (not much to ask on a several thousand dollar diamond) and they said they would get back to me in a week. They never got back to me and the stone remained unsold, weird. :confused:
     
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    by Icelover » Mar 25, 2013
    They are definitely fraudulent. Last year they listed a few fancy pinks on eBay for ridiculously cheap. They said the stones were available in Los Angeles and can be viewed. I had my jeweller check it out and they happened to be natural very light pink stones and not fancy pinks and even the carat weight and clarity was off. They didnt post certificates with the ebay listing. Anyone who dont post certificate numbers or certificates are most likely looking to cheat customers. I'm surprised eBay is doing nothing about it coz they claim to have a strong customer protection thing going on. I would advice everyone to stay miles away from that company and from any other companies run by them.
     
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    by SB621 » Mar 25, 2013
    They have been using pictures off PS of PSers rings too. I know Charmypoo's Leon is on there and I thought I recongized a few other rings too though I don't remember whose pictures they were.
     
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    by minousbijoux » Mar 25, 2013
    This is really unfortunate. I hope it does not result in members not feeling comfortable posting their creations.
     
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    by Justin_Cutter » Mar 28, 2013
    Thanks LD! Hopefully this thread will save future buyers some heart ache.
    ~Justin
     
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    by CharmyPoo » Mar 28, 2013
    This guy uses my Matyal halo ring pictures all the time. I can't get his auctions down fast enough. He ignores my emails and ebay doesn't do much to help.
     
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    by SB621 » Mar 28, 2013
    Sorry Charmy! I meant to put Matyal, but was thinking of the Leon ring DBD posted as well. My apologies.

    FWIW I know someone that works in the fraud department of ebay. Because it is only your word vs. the vendor on whose picture it is they can't really take action. At least that is what I have been told in the past. :nono:
     
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    by minousbijoux » Mar 28, 2013
    So is the answer that we all start putting hallmarks on photos - but then they would probably just crop around it. There has got to be a way to prevent this.
     
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    by orbaya » Mar 29, 2013

    Unfortunately, I have the feeling that people are going to have to watermark their pictures in a place that can't be cropped out.

    eta: I should have read ahead and I wold have seen the post about the marking.
     
  17. chrono
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    by chrono » Mar 29, 2013
    The only way to mark it so that it cannot be removed it to have it on the item itself. Yes, it can spoil the view but what other choice do we have?
     

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