Diamond evaluation

[labiking]

Brand new to the whole "diamond" thing and have a simple question:

1) Is this a good quality EGL rated diamond?
2) Estimated price is 26,390. What would you pay if it was worth purchasing?

Weight 2.03 CT
Shape ROUND BRILLIANT
Color F
Clarity SI2
Measurements 8.17 x 8.1 x 4.95 mm
Depth 60.8%
Table 62%
Crown 13.4%
Pavilion 44.2%
Crown Angle 35.8°
Pavilion Angle 41.7°
Girdle THIN TO SL. THICK FACETED
Polish VERY GOOD
Symmetry VERY GOOD
Fluorescence FAINT
Culet NONE
Cut Grade VERY GOOD

 

[jet2ks]

Date: 12/7/2009 4:40:22 PM
Author:labiking
Brand new to the whole 'diamond' thing and have a simple question:

1) Is this a good quality EGL rated diamond? NO, very poor angles and table. It will most likely not perform well.
2) Estimated price is 26,390. What would you pay if it was worth purchasing? Nothing, I wouldn't pay anything for a poorly cut diamond.

 

[Todd Gray]

There is a good tool available here on PS for assisting consumers with determining which diamonds are likely good candidates in terms of performance and which should be avoided, it is the Holloway Cut Adviser which is available via the Tools / Cut Adviser link available at the top of this page... Punch the total depth; table diameter; crown and pavilion angle measurements into the HCA and you''ll see why Jet2ks is indicating that he wouldn''t consider this diamond...

 

[stone-cold11]

Ditto.

 

[labiking]

HCA results are disappointing

Light Return Good
Fire Poor
Scintillation Fair
Spread or diameter for weight Very Good

Thanks for the info.

What can I expect to pay for a 2ct diamond of "acceptable" quality?

 

[JulieN]

You can find a much nicer stone for less than the price of this one.

Here you go: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5302/

 

[Rockdiamond]

Most important to you as a buyer labiking: High grade stones without GIA, or AGSL lab reports are to be avoided.

Even if it was very well cut ( which I agree, it''s not), it makes the most sense for consumers to stick with GIA or AGSL as the industry does not respect the report accompanying the stone you have considered.

My own personal feeling is that the dealer you are buying from should let you know about this,......

 

[Regular Guy]

Julie''s pointed to a nice example of what you sort of would want to pay for an equivalent diamond, if it was "what it says it was." This is a second choice. It''s one better grade clarity, one lower grade color...so near equal.

But certification makes a substantial difference. In addition to the proportions on your option being a problem, EGL options should be substantially discounted from diamonds like these two, from what they would be if they were provided with certification from either AGS or GIA.

If looking at a reasonably equivalent diamond with certification from EGL, looking at many dozens on this board, the price is quite variable, at a high of $21,298...but also, going as low as $6285.

An important reason for this difference is that as a pattern of practice, the expectation is that color and clarity are not apple to apple comparisons from EGL to either GIA or AGS...they''re as many as 4 grades off, or more. When EGL diamonds are priced fairly, you tend to see them costing similarly to what AGS and GIA would price their diamonds...but also, based on those colors and clarities being taken into account as the lower qualities they are imagined to be.

Here''s one more to consider, but Julie''s is probably the one to beat. There''s more on this board, but these 3 are a good place to start.