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Cushion Cut 2-3 carat Help!

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molonsm

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Hello,

I'm looking for a 2.5-3 carat cushion cut engagement ring and don't know where to start. There are so many different types of cushions.

Looking for something with soft edges. Hoping to buy a loose stone and get it set.

Was thinking of E/F in color.

Does anyone have any guidance when buying a loose stone and any idea how much the above spec will cost?

Thanks in advance for your help!
 
My advice: buy online from a reputable vendor that offers ASET images - it's the only way to assess light performance. Most B&M stores don't have - or want - this technology. The color of the stone (D vs J for example) has nothing to do with how "sparkly" the stone will be.

What is your budget? We can help you start looking.
 
Budget?
 
 
what Clarity of stone are you looking for?
 
Thank you all so much for your replies. My budget is around $30k.

Has anyone ever bought a ring wholesale?

I feel like you are all experts and I have so much research to do. It seems overwhelming.

Rhino thank you I'll check out your video.

Gypsy thanks for those links.

hmr_mama and ecf8503 thanks for your insight!
 
thank you so much!
 
molonsm|1349194735|3278090 said:
Has anyone ever bought a ring wholesale?
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If someone is claiming to be a wholesaler but is selling to you, they are not a wholesaler, they are retailer who is lying to you. A true wholesaler cannot sell to the public, and do not make exceptions for random strangers, friends, friends of friends, relatives of friends....

When you are comparing cushions, do not compare carat weights. Compare dimensions-- the size in milometers (length and width).
 
Gypsy said:
molonsm|1349194735|3278090 said:
Has anyone ever bought a ring wholesale?
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If someone is claiming to be a wholesaler but is selling to you, they are not a wholesaler, they are retailer who is lying to you. A true wholesaler cannot sell to the public, and do not make exceptions for random strangers, friends, friends of friends, relatives of friends....
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Thanks Gypsy. I have been offered to be put in touch with someone who sold a ring to a friend for a heavily discounted price.

He seems reputable and the ring they got looks great.

Would you get a better round diamond than a cushion cut for the same amount of money?
 
When you are comparing cushions, do not compare carat weights. Compare dimensions-- the size in milometers (length and width).[/quote]

I didn't know not to compare carat weights but dimensions. Is that just with cushions? how come you compare dimensions?

I was reading that you can lose some of the weight on the cut but I don't really understand that.

Can anyone explain?

Also if you've a larger table does that mean the stone looks bigger as there's more on top than down below? does that mean you give up on sparkle?

Also how low would you go on the clarity?
 
molonsm|1349195078|3278096 said:
Gypsy said:
molonsm|1349194735|3278090 said:
Has anyone ever bought a ring wholesale?
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If someone is claiming to be a wholesaler but is selling to you, they are not a wholesaler, they are retailer who is lying to you. A true wholesaler cannot sell to the public, and do not make exceptions for random strangers, friends, friends of friends, relatives of friends....
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Thanks Gypsy. I have been offered to be put in touch with someone who sold a ring to a friend for a heavily discounted price.

He seems reputable and the ring they got looks great.

Would you get a better round diamond than a cushion cut for the same amount of money?
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Better is a matter of preference. There is nothing that makes a round better than a cushion. We have access to vendors who have cushions that can perform toe to toe with the best rounds out there. It's a matter of what you like and want to wear.

As for "friend" jewelers. Everyone has a 'friend" jeweler. And everyone who refers people to them 'thinks' they got a 'great deal' ... truth is most of them got ripped off, or just paid what they should have. Most people are ignorant about diamonds, prices, etc and don't do enough research to actually know what a good jeweler is, what what a bad one isn't. As long as the 'friend' jeweler is nice to them and TELLS THEM they got a good deal and backs it up with a bogus inflated 'appraisal' document, they think they got a deal. We get people here all the time crying and unhappy about what they ended up with from their 'friend' jeweler.

Working with 'friend' jeweler guidelines: ANYTHING they offer you should have a GIA or AGS certificate. Nothing that is uncertified is a 'deal'... and you should have at least 2 days to double check pricing and other details and compare to make sure you are getting a deal before you buy. They should hold the diamond AT LEAST that long for you. Anyone who says that you HAVE to make an IMMEDIATE decision is trying to scam you-- don't listen to their excuses "I have 2 other people interested in this, but I want YOU to have it" ... all lies. AND YOU SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST A TWO WEEK RETURN (not exchange) POLICY, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. Okay?

Also your "friend" probably will not be able to provide you with ASET images and other tools to help you compare and verify performance. But if you are shopping in person with them, you can buy an ASET scope yourself and learn how to use it. And you can train your eyes what to look for in a 'good' diamond.
 
molonsm|1349195512|3278100 said:
When you are comparing cushions, do not compare carat weights. Compare dimensions-- the size in milometers (length and width).[/quote

Also if you've a larger table does that mean the stone looks bigger as there's more on top than down below? does that mean you give up on sparkle?

Also how low would you go on the clarity?
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I'll get someone to answer the first question you asked for you.

LARGER TABLE IS NOT BETTER. In fact it mostly means less fire, and is bad.

I would go down to an eyeclean SI1 in a GIA or AGS stone.
 
Thank you so much Gypsy that is so helpful you seem so knowledgeable.

I am extremely weary now about going to this person. I've heard of people getting great deals and I really don't know that much about diamonds so i could be easily ripped off.

I need to start doing research...
 
Start at the "knowledge" tab at the start of the page. Read all every link under there.
 
Hi Molonsm, try this link on cushion cuts
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/cushion-cut-diamond

To view a lot of cushions, also browse Diamondsbylauren.com - David has a lot of cushion styles on his site and rings.

Ct weight is a weight measurement, but when comparing diamonds, look at the mm size of the stone you are interested in. Compare the mm of the width and length to the diamonds you are interested. Select a few that you are interested in, and include the depth as well then post them here for input. As Gypsy said, too deep won't necessarily show light well, and the 'ct weight' is in the bottom - as the song goes... "I like big butts...."!!! (May not be the best choice for diamond cuts!)
 
Enerchi|1349196545|3278110 said:
Hi Molonsm, try this link on cushion cuts
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/cushion-cut-diamond

To view a lot of cushions, also browse Diamondsbylauren.com - David has a lot of cushion styles on his site and rings.

Ct weight is a weight measurement, but when comparing diamonds, look at the mm size of the stone you are interested in. Compare the mm of the width and length to the diamonds you are interested. Select a few that you are interested in, and include the depth as well then post them here for input. As Gypsy said, too deep won't necessarily show light well, and the 'ct weight' is in the bottom - as the song goes... "I like big butts...."!!! (May not be the best choice for diamond cuts!)
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E-- can you pull a few Cushions at similar carat weights from JA, with varying spread to demonstrate what we mean for her?

These aren't going to be recommended stones. They are only to illustrate why you have to look at the mm size (call dimensions or spread or measurements) not the carat weight. :wavey:
 
Okay so... I handled that badly. Sorry Enerchi. I'll explain better molonsm.



Here's a one carat: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS1-Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1441288.asp Measurements: 6.64*5.92 THAT faces up (measurements) BIGGER to this 1.2 carat diamond: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1389754.asp 6.07*5.95

You have to pay attention to the measurements, not the carat weight. Cause you can get a 1.2 carat that's SMALLER in terms of the measurements that you see than a 1 carat. So the one carat is going to look LARGER, despite weighing less than the 1.2 carat.

Here is a 1.7 carat that faces up huge for it's weight: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1519463.asp Measurements: 6.82*7.52
And here is a 1.7 that faces up MUCH smaller than that one. http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-SI2-Good-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1519183.asp

So measurements, NOT CARAT weight matter when you are comparing the sizes of two cushions.
 
Enerchi & Gypsy that is so helpful I did not realize that at all about the dimensions.

Thank you both so much

in terms of ratios what would be your ideals for a cushion?
 
molonsm|1349201505|3278151 said:
Enerchi & Gypsy that is so helpful I did not realize that at all about the dimensions.

Thank you both so much

in terms of ratios what would be your ideals for a cushion?
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Ratio is a preference thing. Do you want a square or a rectangle... what's all it comes down to. I like both, own a square diamond (not a cushion but a an ascher but still a square) and have come to feel that elongated/ rectangular shapes are the most hand flattering so I have a preference for them now. That doesn't mean I'm right, or that I was wrong when I went with an ascher instead of an emerald cut initially, just my preferences have changed.

You have to find out what your preference is and go with that.


Here is some cushion reading for you. [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-cuts-under-aset-scope-is-it-me-or-the-diamonds.170098/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-cuts-under-aset-scope-is-it-me-or-the-diamonds.170098/[/URL] and https://www.pricescope.com/journal/new_gia_and_agsl_naming_conventions_cushion_cut_diamonds
 
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