Confused - Need Advice!

[charlottedeac1]

First, I want to thank everyone for the advice in the past.

I am in a bind - I purchased a diamond in late July for my girlfriend, but am reluctant to give it to her because of what I have read on this site and elsewhere. The stone is an 1.71 F color, VS2 (GIA) with moderate blue fluourescence. After extensive research, I have come to the conclusion that moderate fluourescense on a colorless stone is not desireable and that it can cause an oily/cloudy effect. Everytime I look at the stone now, under typical indoor lighting, I convince myself it has an oily appearance. Do all stones acquire surface oils (no one has worn this ring, but it has been handled) or should I be concerned that the stone is adversely affected by fluourescence?

If the consensus is not positive, would you recommend that I ask the jeweler for a different stone (the diamond is already mounted)? Will he charge me?

 

[charlottedeac1]

Help!!!!

 

[diagem]

90% of diamonds from g color and beter dont get hurt from moderate flo.

if you look a the diamond and it doesnt look like it has a thin cloudy appearance, dont worry about it to much.

Its true, interest parties tried and succeded to scare away from flo., but i will let you in on a trade secret..., in the 1920 to the 1970's they were considered the best.

they were called BLUE-WHITE, and they brang in a heafty premium.


If you love the stone, keep loving it and enjoy it.

 

[aljdewey]

I think you're overreacting.

The oily/milky thing is usually only visible in direct sunlight....and then only if the fluor is REALLY STRONG.

Fluor isn't necessarily "undesirable" in colorless stones....it doesn't harm, but it doesn't handicap the way it does on a lower-colored stone.

There are tons of folks here who wouldn't buy a stone *without* fluor - they like how it looks plugged in in the right lighting.

Relax and enjoy your pick.

 

[fire&ice]

I believe we've communicated in the past about your reservation with this stone. Honestly, some stones can be milky w/ the blue fluor. It's rather rare; but, it does happen.

My advice since you are still fretting over this issue -haste post have it independently appraised by either sending the stone to one of our resident appraisers here on PS or find one in your area.

We simply can not say via the internet. A trained professional will be able to put this matter to rest for you. If it does exhibit the oily condition, take it back to the jeweler & have him find you another stone. You window of return may have already expired & yes, he will probably charge you as an F w/ med blue trades for less than one without.

But, it's not doing you any good in it's current state of limbo, especially for your to be.

Edited to add: what are the cut specs? Could it be that the stone isn't lively because of the cut?
Good luck.

 

[quaeritur]

I'd start by having it cleaned. Diamonds are oil magnets. I would be surprised if moderate blue fluor were having a deleterious effect on your stone... BUT, I'll echo the suggestion that for your own peace of mind you take it to an independent appraiser. What are the rest of the specs? Maybe it doesn't look good to you because it's not the best cut?

 

[nicknomo]

It is true with many things, that you don't see certain qualities without looking for them first. My friend used to have a computer with a ratty/noisy fan, and he didn't seem to really notice or care. One day I brought it up, and after starting to listen to it, it began to really bug him. He soon replaced it... Oddly enough after that he has been a stickler for quiet computers.

This may be a case of the same thing. Maybe since you started looking you can notice it, and it bugs you. But hey, maybe you should get the opinion of a woman (your gf's if possible?)...

It also may be a case of you seeing something that isn't really there. Which happens, especially in such an expensive situation. The important thing is not to get paranoid. Compare it to another diamond, with no flourescence side by side. Clean both of them. Can you notice the oily appearence? Is it a big difference?

If you haven't actually paid (in full) for the diamond yet, it's probably not too early to back out. You will probably have to pay for the setting and the work done. Some jewelers have a money back clause, where if you aren't completely satisfied they give you your money back (as if it doesn't appraise for what you expected).

Just one side note, when the jeweler sets and mounts the stone, they seem to use some black gunk to protect the diamond. It doesn't always come off, and my diamond looked pretty crappy and dull after it got set. I put a loupe to it and it was dirty with the black gunk all over it. I cleaned it in an alchohol based jewelery cleaner for a few minutes and it came out sparkly and clear. I had quite a bit of trouble getting the stuff off, but it all eventually disappeared. Maybe this is a contributing factor...

 

[charlottedeac1]

You guys are the best. The jeweler does not have a Sarin machine, but this is what I do know:
GIA
1.71 RB
VS2
F
61.5 depth
58 table
Excellent Polish
Good Symmetry
Mod Blue Fluourescence

Purchased for 16.5 without setting (19 with setting). Jeweler appraised at 27 (my insurance said the appraiser is "reputable" even though he works at the store where the stone was purchased).

 

[nicknomo]

Well, that appraisal is a definite conflict of interest. Regardless of whether the appraiser honestly thinks the goods at the jewelry store are top notch or whether he is being dishonest, 9 out of ten times they will not give you an objective view of the diamond.

You want a third party to do it.

 

[charlottedeac1]

Does anyone know of an independent appraiser in Charlotte NC? I don't want to ship it off at this point in the game.