Color in fancies?

[VuittonGal]

Does color show up more in fancy-cut diamonds?

I personally like a whiter-look to a diamond, but would like to avoid fluoresence. What are your thoughts of doing a very good cut H VS2 in platinum?

 

[Lorelei]

I have an H pear. In my experience my GIA cert pear looks very white in most lights, in some you can see a hint of warmth in the tip. I rather like that in my diamond, it seems to have different characteristics. In sunlight the whole stone glows with warmth, again I like that. What shape are you interested in? I think it very much depends on the shape you choose as they can carry color differently. I am sure an H would be fine in platinum and a very good cut may reduce any warmth in the stone. Again I think it depends on color perception of the individual. Some stones will appear warmer to some people and not to others. There are a lot of more knowledgeable people out there than me, so you should get a lot of good advice. Don''t forget an H color is in the near colorless range, so if color is an issue maybe a G or higher you might prefer. It''s up to you what is pleasing to your eyes.

Also welcome

 

[valeria101]

Unless the diamond is quite large, H would never need excuses. Just IMO

Medium fluorescence can only help though - perhaps morethan that starts being debatable. Unless you have seen such stones and decided that they are not for you, it might be worth seeing an example.

 

[moremoremore]

why do you want to avoid flourescence? You go clubbing a lot?

 

[VuittonGal]

Nope, I don''t go clubbing a lot

but I''m afraid I''ll see blue in the stone! I''m afraid that an H color might not be yellow enough to need flouresence. I''m scared it''ll look cloudy and oily with flourescence. Will it?

Also, I''m thinking about getting a princess cut stone, around 2 carats. Thanks for the tips everyone! This Web site rocks! (no pun intended)

 

[diamondsbylauren]

Although fancy shapes in general may show more color in a given grade than a round, I''ve found that the better cut fancy shapes are on par with rounds.

You''ve got a lot of fears of fluoresence which may be unfounded.
If the stopne is H color, with medium blue, you should not even be able to tell in normal lighting conditions.
I have acually seen a Med Blue stone that looked oily- but that''s very rare in Mediums- and in fact even Strong Blue stones do not always look oily.
As far as a blue tint- we should be so lucky hehehehe.
Seriously, only the most discerning eye wil spot blue in a medium stone

Some people can see the yellow "tint" in an H- but that''s a minority.
If you can, look at some stones ( GIA graded) in H or I color to see if you notice anything.
That should give you the idea.

 

[belle]

do you have a stone in mind? fluorecsence really only becomes detectable when you get to med. or strong blue. even then, it''s not like the stone is going to be ''blue''
i really like the characteristic fluor has on a stone and would LOVE a 2ct. princess with some fluoro.

as far as making it cloudy, yes, it can happen but it is rare. if you find a stone wiht fluoro in the strong to very strong range, you would want to make sure there is not a cloudiness to it.
best of luck to you!

 

[valeria101]

Date: 6/23/2005 2:49:20 PM
Author: VuittonGal

I''m afraid I''ll see blue in the stone!

I''m afraid that an H color might not be yellow enough to need flouresence.

I''m scared it''ll look cloudy and oily with flourescence.

There isn''t much to do about these scares than go out and look at a few diamonds. If those stones are certified, you can be sure your experience can be applied to a future, different purchase.

Color is allot more aparent from the back and sides where brilliance does not get into the way - if culet up H looks ok by itself and, say, F doesn''t make much difference in rings that should make your decission easy. Or you could discover than you are among the very, very few who can tell E from D from a mile and hate it ! Honestly, I wish I could spot grades like that, because people ask and it is embarassing to keep explaining that no, it is not that easy

What are they thinking ?

Same for fluorescence. I am not sure what the "oily" look is all about - perhaps after sorting though diamonds for a long time one can tell fluorescent ones apart by intuition. To sum that discriminating quality in this one unfortunate word might not be fair game. Those diamonds do not look like soaked in oil or anything. You will not be wasting time investigating, IMO.

Hope some of this helps

 

[diamondsbylauren]

Ana- sometimes when a diamond has strong fluorescence, it gets an oily. dull appearance.
I guarantee that if you had seen such an "oily" stone, you''d pick it out immediately.

 

[valeria101]

Date: 6/23/2005 3:16:34 PM
Author: diamondsbylauren

Ana- sometimes when a diamond has strong fluorescence, it gets an oily. dull appearance.
I guarantee that if you had seen such an ''oily'' stone, you''d pick it out immediately.

I had the pleasure, but surely not as often as anyone in the trade. It would need to be fit for the a geology exibit of fluorescent minerals to catch my certainly unprofessional eye on someone''s hand.

Perhaps the previous post sounds a bit off: it was meant to say that "fluorescence" - the word on a lab report - is not all bad.

Thank you for the hint

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