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Randum

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Hello all, first time poster, I did some searching on here and find some interesting things, so thanks! The one thing I am looking for has to do with color.

So I was passed a name of a good store in Chicago, had a great shopping experience, very personable, low pressure sales, and willing to show me everything. I knew what I was looking for and found it at what I think is a decent price, so says the internet apparently. but just to be sure, I stopped on the way home at a Jared''s to see what they had in comparison.
I noticed not only were their diamonds appraised differently but the same grade definitely had a yellow tint...could this be the lighting??

This is what I looked at downtown: Cushion cut, 1.01ct, GIA certified, I SI1, I looked side by side at much higher grade color without a difference.. the price point just for the diamond itself was $3400, which looks to be about right.

At Jareds, I looked at H, which is suppose to be higher, a .99ct and a 1.01, and it was definitely yellow, on the setting, on the hand, on the table...and this was significantly more...over a grand more to be exact...


My worry is, was it the lighting? Or is the two certification methods so different, it could cause the grades to be that different???

The store I went to in Chicago was New York Jewelers and was highly recommended from someone...any input would be appreciated!
 
Could have been the lighting.
Or the color of a wall, or someone's shirt.
Diamonds pick up the color of whatever is around them even the blue sky above.


You really have to see two diamonds side by side to compare their color.
Even then it is better to compare them loose than set.
Also, placing them up side down on a white surface and background is even better at revealing body color.

Also some labs ARE softer on grading.
GIA and AGS are considered the most reliable.
Others may report a better color grade than AGS or GIA would have.
 
It could be the lighting, the temperature of the light bulbs, whether or not the light is filtered with dichromatic lenses, etc. it could even be the color of the walls and the clothing worn by the salesperson - diamonds reflect everything that surrounds them. A perceived difference in color can also be due to the cut quality of a diamond, most people have difficulty ascertaining body color of better cut gems... And yes, it could also be a difference of which lab graded each diamond.
 
Date: 7/15/2009 12:11:24 AM
Author:Randum
Hello all, first time poster, I did some searching on here and find some interesting things, so thanks! The one thing I am looking for has to do with color.

So I was passed a name of a good store in Chicago, had a great shopping experience, very personable, low pressure sales, and willing to show me everything. I knew what I was looking for and found it at what I think is a decent price, so says the internet apparently. but just to be sure, I stopped on the way home at a Jared''s to see what they had in comparison.
I noticed not only were their diamonds appraised differently but the same grade definitely had a yellow tint...could this be the lighting??

This is what I looked at downtown: Cushion cut, 1.01ct, GIA certified, I SI1, I looked side by side at much higher grade color without a difference.. the price point just for the diamond itself was $3400, which looks to be about right.

At Jareds, I looked at H, which is suppose to be higher, a .99ct and a 1.01, and it was definitely yellow, on the setting, on the hand, on the table...and this was significantly more...over a grand more to be exact...


My worry is, was it the lighting? Or is the two certification methods so different, it could cause the grades to be that different???

The store I went to in Chicago was New York Jewelers and was highly recommended from someone...any input would be appreciated!
Could well be the lighting, GIA and AGS are both reputable labs. Diamonds can absorb colour around them, an interesting exercise would be to see if you are one of those colour sensitive souls though, so be good if you could compare near colourless and colourless diamonds out in normal lighting to see if you pick up any warmth.
 
thanks for the input, I will be checking it out again today!
 
Date: 7/15/2009 7:32:27 AM
Author: Randum
thanks for the input, I will be checking it out again today!
Let us know how you get on!
 
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