can this be resized?

[djohnson]

does anyone know if a tiffany ladies band with diamonds can resized from a 3.5 to a 8.25

 

[diamondseeker2006]

No, absolutely not. I always look for rings that are exactly my size or within a half size if there are any diamonds on the shank at all. If this is something like a 7 stone band, you could size it maybe a full size. But I'd keep looking for the actual size or close to it.

Can you show me which style it is?

 

[djohnson]

the band only has diamonds on the top portion of the band not on the shank. does this matter

 

[ibdrinken]

Usually you can only go up or down 1 size when resizing

 

[iota15]

That's way too big a difference.

 

[MarionC]

I just had a Tiffany 5 stone band resized 2 sizes and it wreaked havoc with the shape of the bezel around one of the end stones.I was going DOWN 2 sizes, but the fact remains: When they size a ring it affects more than the un-diamonded "back" of the ring.The jeweler should have mentioned that problem before he attempted the work, but he didn't. I learned the hard way

 

[yssie]

At that point I imagine doing it correctly would mean a total re-shanking rather than a re-sizing... at which point whether or not it's still an authentic Tiffany is questionable...

 

[Rockdiamond]

the band only has diamonds on the top portion of the band not on the shank. does this matter

There's a lot of variables that make the difference here.
For sure, going from 3.5 to 8.25 is drastic- but on a plain shank, it's not out of the question.
The style of shoulders, and how the top attaches to the shank will be important.


Yssie raised a great point that is very important here- asking a vendor that did not manufacture the ring to adjust the size can lead to a lot of problems- besides whether or not the ring will still be considered a Tiffany ring.
I advise consumers to go back to where they bought the ring and get the correct advice.
If the seller agrees to take the job, a consumer would be well served getting some sot of guarantee- or other assurance that the work can be done safely, and in a transparent manner ( so that you can't tell the ring was adjusted afterwards).

We have performed size adjustments a lot more than two finger sizes on rings with no diamonds set into the shank- but if a shank has pave, it really complicates things. Having said that- we'v also adjusted rings with pave 3 sizes

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I'd try to find a 7 or higher. Then only have it sized at Tiffany.

 

[djohnson]

this is the ring. remember the diamonds are only half way around on the top.

 

[Roxy]

I'd try to find a 7 or higher. Then only have it sized at Tiffany.

+1, I wouldn't consider trying to go up to 8.25 from anything less than a 7 or 7.5 either. Not only would I be nervous about the material/structural changes, but I'd be concerned about how different the ring might look on a finger that's so much larger. Would the diamonds that cover the top half of a 3.5 sized finger go as far across the top of an 8.25 sized finger? Would diamonds that looked substantial on a 3.5 sized finger give as much of a "pop" on an 8.25 finger?

Just a few of the questions I'd have for the jeweler (and I'd only go to Tiffany's for the modifications), but personally I wouldn't be comfortable spending that kind of money w/ so much risk.

 

[djohnson]

the band is 5600.00 after taxes from tiffanys.

someone is selling it to me for approx 2000.00 they bought it 4 months ago, have the receipts and willing to meet me in tiffs to authenticate. so if it cost me less than 600.00 to resize Im saving 3000.00. Im willing to get creative here and was hoping to find some pricescopers with can do attitudes. I have a feeling i may get some rude responses for this.

it will have pop on any human hand. a jeweler i trust said he would have to do a re-shank (1/2 re-shank) and if there is any stress on the diamonds i will be charged for him to tighten the prongs. he also said if the band has a tiffany stamp or engraved marker on I may lose this because he will be adding platinum to increase the size but I am not concerned with keeping the tiffany logo as no one will see this. so i guess i shouldve started this thread saying can I have this ring re shanked?

the jeweler just quoted me a price range of 300-500.

 

[iota15]

We're not going to be rude. We're just communicating what we know.

As a consumer, I'm only telling you what I've heard/had done to my rings over time. While it's definitely possible to attempt to re-shank this ring. The difficulty is whether it is likely to cause problems down the line - ones that will add more cost, headache or potential heartache for the wearer.

If you look at the angle of the seven stones sitting on top of the ring - you will see that they sit on a curve meant to fit a much smaller finger.

To enlarge it to the size you thinking, that curve will need to change. You are not just changing the "bottom" part of the ring. Stress will be placed on the diamond end as well.

A good bench would know best - and I'm not a bencher. I would imagine though, that you *may* encounter the following potential issues: a) stress/potential weakness/cracking in the frame holding the diamonds; b) possible loss of diamonds; Or - maybe nothing will happen.

You are going through a huge size change. Much larger than anything I've heard attempted.

Your jeweler/bencher should tell you the potential risks and how much these potential risks will cost you to fix. In the end, you might just be buying seven loose diamonds from Tiffany's and have to remake the whole thing.

 

[ame]

You're not getting a deal, you're getting a disaster in the making. Find one in your size or very close to it and have Tiffany size it.

 

[yssie]

Ditto iota, every word.

"Can do attitude"? Sure, that's easy. "Should do"? Maybe not.
Have you thought about what I wrote earlier re. authenticity? Who decides whether a ring that has been significantly re-worked (re-shanked) still qualifies as a Tiffany branded ring? I personally think Tiffany is the only authority with the right to decide this, I personally think a ring that has been fully re-shanked merits neither the Tiffany name nor any associated cachet/premium, and I personally strongly suspect Tiffany would agree. Should you care? If you intend to ever sell it, or even claim that it is "from Tiffany" without further explanation... yes, personally I think you should.

 

[iota15]

Also, for $2500, $2600 - you can buy a brand new, very well cut and made seven-stone that is correctly sized the first time.

If you're losing the Tiffany mark anyway and effectively remaking most of the ring - why not buy a new one?

I thought I'd just put this suggestion out there. Brian Gavin and ID make some very nice seven-stoners. You can find reviews and pictures of their work and others on pricescope.

For example: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/wedding-and-anniversary-bands/eternity-bands/seven-stone-shared-prong-band-18k-white-gold-5391w18

 

[djohnson]

thank u guys for the advice. i do appreciate the honesty. I see what tiffanys will charge and I am already leaning towards finding a something similiar or a diff and lower priced band from tiffs.

thanks to whoever sent the brian gavin 7 stone. Thats def an alternative.

 

[iota15]

Ditto iota, every word.

"Can do attitude"? Sure, that's easy. "Should do"? Maybe not.
Have you thought about what I wrote earlier re. authenticity? Who decides whether a ring that has been significantly re-worked (re-shanked) still qualifies as a Tiffany branded ring? I personally think Tiffany is the only authority with the right to decide this, I personally think a ring that has been fully re-shanked merits neither the Tiffany name nor any associated cachet/premium, and I personally strongly suspect Tiffany would agree. Should you care? If you intend to ever sell it, or even claim that it is "from Tiffany" without further explanation... yes, personally I think you should.

Absolutely. After this type of work, it's not a "Tiffany's" ring anymore.

 

[CharmyPoo]

I have went down from 8 to a 3 a few times without issue but the re-sizing was done by Steven Kirsch so a total different ball park from the average bench person. Going reverse is rebuilding the whole ring. Not worth it to me especially when you are losing the T&CO logos.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Oh yes, you can get a brand new band the right size with ideal cut diamonds for what you'd be spending! Is that the .56 ct. Tiffany ring?

This one is $1495 for .75 cts ($2395 in platinum):

http://www.whiteflash.com/wedding-bands/seven-stone-shared-prong-diamond-wedding-band-566.htm

I am hoping you go with a new one. It would be terribly sad to basically destroy a Tiffany ring to resize drastically. Once you did that, it wouldn't be worth a bit more than the ring above.

 

[Sakuracherry]

Alright, I hope you can learn something from looking at my rings. How does each ring look to you?

 

[Rockdiamond]

You're getting great advice here.
A bargain becomes a "strup" ( bad deal) when complications arise.
Go for a new ring in the size you need- or pony up and have Tiffany's do the adjustment ( if they even will)

Here's an unfortunate situation that has popped up on numerous occasions:
A client who needed a size adjustment was told by a local bench person that they could do the adjustment, no problem.
When the bench person screwed up the ring, they were unable to fix the mess they created. We've had to build new rings for these clients.
If a bench person does not have the skill to build a given ring, they can't do a proper size adjustment.
Sometimes even when we are changing a ring 1/2 size something unexpected happens, and we have to re-manufacture a part, or replace a stone.
Thankfully this is very rare, but it can and does happen.

 

[Roxy]

thank u guys for the advice. i do appreciate the honesty. I see what tiffanys will charge and I am already leaning towards finding a something similiar or a diff and lower priced band from tiffs.

thanks to whoever sent the brian gavin 7 stone. Thats def an alternative.

Sure, we're just trying to be helpful, and I sincerely didn't mean to come across as rude. I faced similar concerns not too long ago and the questions I listed were those that I had for myself. For ex, when you're dealing w/a shared prong design (like the picture you posted), it's a delicate balance if you have to start tightening prongs one way or another (because they're shared w/the stone next to it), and that's something that I learned w/a RHR the hard way. The jeweler I was working w/is excellent, but it turned out to be a tough lesson that we both learned together.

In an effort to be more educated myself, it looks like you've spoken w/ Tiffany's and they've quoted a charge for changing the size, have I read your post correctly? Given they're the experts on the ring, I'd really like to hear what their thoughts were & if re-sizing is really not as big of a risk as many of us think.