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bams0103

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WARNING: I''m being childish and materialistic, but hoping that writing it down will make me feel better. Kind of long............sorry

When my FI and I started looking at diamonds, my heart was set on an antique setting w/ an asscher or cushion. My FI wanted a RB solitaire. PROBLEM! The jeweler we used showed us the round diamonds he had in-house, but none of those worked for us for various reasons. Because he owns a small shop, he had to bring diamonds in from other sources, and the selection of asschers and cushions he was able to get was not that impressive, much to the delight of my FI.
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He did however, show us a very pretty 1.25 ct RB, so my FI and I agreed that we would compromise and go with a RB pave/halo setting. Much to our surprise, the diamond was under our budget and we were able to afford a larger diamond. (All of a sudden that RB didn''t seem so bad!
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). We couldn''t afford the 1.5 ct so we told him that we wanted to go as large as our budget would allow, w/out compromising quality; we figured this to be 1.4 ct or just under. He warned us though that those sizes are very hard to find and I needed to be patient. YEAH RIGHT. So about a week later he called and said that he hadn''t forgotten about us but he''s still looking for that size stone, and that he did find a very nice 1.28 ct for us to look at if we were interested. My FI wanted to go look but I was just not into it; I had already compromised on the cut. Well it may as well have been the Hope Diamond because he thought it was the most beautiful thing he''s ever seen in his life, and I was like, "ehh"
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. I wasn''t that impressed; I thought it looked small. (Although I''m sure part of it was because of my salty attitude). They both looked at me like I had 2 heads and said that if I wasn''t happy we could keep looking. Now the jeweler was very patient and helpful and I had no doubt he was more than willing to keep going. My FI, on the other hand, was getting very impatient with me by this point, so what did I do? Folded again. So we put a deposit down on the diamond and he said the ring would be ready in 3 weeks (he was making the setting and we had already discussed that part of it). So for 3 weeks I was trying to come to terms with the fact that I wasn''t getting the original cut I wanted and I was getting a smaller ct weight than what we had originally hoped. Well the 3 weeks FINALLY came and I had a ring on my finger and cert in hand and then I found PS. UH OH
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. My diamond is a steep/deep and only faces up like a 1.20 (6.9 mm average). Now some people might say that''s not that big of a deal but it really upsets me that we paid that much $ for a 1.28 ct that looks like a 1.2 ct. I feel like the jeweler should''ve warned me that it was cut a little deeper, especially since he knew we were looking for something bigger than a 1.25 ct in the first place. I kick myself for not asking more questions about the information on the cert when he originally showed us and for not holding my ground on the cut I wanted.
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I really, really, want to LOVE my ring but I can''t help but to think we could''ve had a much better quality ring for the $ we paid. Did anybody else go through this? And if so, who had to kick you in the A** and say STOP BEING A BRAT!! Thanks for listening everybody!
 
Well. This isn''t the first time this type of thing has happened and it won''t be the last.

So... um. You got a return policy? And is DF in the mood to um... allow a return?
 
You''re having what''s called "PS remorse". Honestly, if the diamond is beautiful to you and you like the way it looks on your hand, you have to totally throw the rest of the information away (knowledge about proportions, etc) because otherwise you''ll never be happy with it.

Post some pics! We would LOVE to see!
 
Well, a 1.28 facing up like a 1.20 is not the biggest of deals. However, it seems to me that it is yet another disappointment in a string of disappointments having to do with what you wanted for your ering versus what you got, and I definitely understand that IS a big deal, collectively.

It sounds like you were 'goaded' into compromising what you wanted based on convenience, and that is not fair. In the long run (and even in the short run, it appears!) you will be dissatisfied, and whether that feeling will wane....don't know.

As Gypsy said...can this be returned? I think that compromise is about conceding things on BOTH sides, and it sounds like you're the only one who conceded anything, which is a recipe for disappointment, not contentment. If possible, this merits a 'do over.'

If you can't return it, and your only qualm is that you could have gotten a better ring or stone or whatever for the money...then I'd just try to be contented if your FI is contented...after all, I'm assuming it was his money anyway.
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Date: 9/17/2007 7:38:44 PM
Author: FireGoddess
Well, a 1.28 facing up like a 1.20 is not the biggest of deals. However, it seems to me that it is yet another disappointment in a string of disappointments having to do with what you wanted for your ering versus what you got, and I definitely understand that IS a big deal, collectively.

It sounds like you were 'goaded' into compromising what you wanted based on convenience, and that is not fair. In the long run (and even in the short run, it appears!) you will be dissatisfied, and whether that feeling will wane....don't know.

As Gypsy said...can this be returned? I think that compromise is about conceding things on BOTH sides, and it sounds like you're the only one who conceded anything, which is a recipe for disappointment, not contentment. If possible, this merits a 'do over.'
Very well stated. Pretend I wrote that too. LOL.
 
Your 1.28 is, in fact, facing up like a 1.25. We just had some new info posted about diamonds mm/carats. An asscher of the same size, or even 1.5 would have faced up much smaller. If you "folded" about the diamond twice, now is the time to be honest with your FI. It may not be too late to remedy the situation. But do tell him about your feelings ASAP!
 
Thanks for everybody''s responses. I LOVE THIS PLACE!! That''s the other thing that makes me mad, I didn''t even think to ask about their refund/exchange policy and it''s been 30 days. My FI would be so mad if I returned it because he loves it and thinks I do too. It would hurt his feelings if I said anything. The ring is very pretty, and I guess I have to admit to myself that the main issue is size, which is bit materialistic huh? I''ve tried to take pictures and they''re all so blurry. I''d be happy to post those!
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I''ll see what I can do.

See? I feel better just talking about it. Thank God for you all!
 
Well that''s good news!! I don''t even know how I''d approach it with him. Plus I''d be afraid that I''d go through all of this and you wouldn''t even be able to see the difference in sizes.
 
I understand your vent, bams, but I don''t think there''s that much of a difference between a 1.25 and a 1.28 - experts please correct me if I''m wrong.

I think you need to sit down with your FI and voice your concerns and also get on the phone with the jeweler to see if it''s too late to return the stone if that''s what you decide to do. Good luck
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Bams, we tend to be pretty liberal here about that whole need to vent thing. Don''t sweat it. It''s not the mm, is it dear? It''s the I didn''t get what I really wanted and told him I wanted thing. It sounds as if he got you HIS dream ring. Not quite the same thing at all. The best that you can do, if he is REALLY set on this is learn to love it. (wait for an anniversary when you have learned how to get what you want without hurting his feelings) Then GO for it!!! We''ll help. Otherwise, show him this thread and explain your feelings. If you can marry him, you can talk to him, right?
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Date: 9/17/2007 8:00:13 PM
Author: bams0103

The ring is very pretty, and I guess I have to admit to myself that the main issue is size, which is bit materialistic huh?
If that''s the case...be glad you got the round, because the same ct weight in an asscher or cushion would face up smaller than the round!!
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I have read several posts on how diamonds face up and there is such a small, negligible difference in how your diamond faces up vis a vis its carat weight. There would be no way to see a visual difference (especially after being set) so no worries...!
 
Want the GOOD news?? Your 6.90mm RB faces up as big as a TWO CARAT asscher
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(or a 1.75-ish square-ish CUSHION!)

Seriously though -- if you''re not happy with the stone because of new info you''ve learned since you''ve been on Pscope ... maybe there''s a way to appeal to your DH''s LOGIC. Is the stone within its return period. Even if you got a better cut stone (not steep/deep) the same size it would LOOK bigger (more sparkly).

Good luck!!
 
Bams, I hope you feel better after venting.

Sometimes in life you have to make do with the situation instead of making the situation be exactly what you want it to be.

What you''re lamenting is not that big a deal. The visual difference in size between a 1.28 and 1.20 is almost undiscernable once mounted.

Some things are much more important than that tenth of a millimeter in size. If you''ll think about it for a while I think you''ll realize what they are.

Your diamond is most likely gorgeous, and you are such a lucky woman to have a man that thinks you''re worth it.
 
It definitely isn''t fun if you were expecting something else and didn''t get what you originally wanted. On the flip side, I must say that a 1.28ct stone is probably really nice.

My GF told me all sorts of stuff she wanted, but she didn''t get to come shopping. It was something I took pride in doing and am hoping she likes it. However, I am going to give her the option to change out her setting since I was having a hard time figuring out exactly what was best.

Could you possibly change out the setting and be happier? If not, I would say that a 1.28ct stone is something to be happy with and for many other girls to be jealous of :)jk
 
Date: 9/17/2007 8:17:49 PM
Author: decodelighted
Want the GOOD news?? Your 6.90mm RB faces up as big as a TWO CARAT asscher
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(or a 1.75-ish square-ish CUSHION!)

Seriously though -- if you''re not happy with the stone because of new info you''ve learned since you''ve been on Pscope ... maybe there''s a way to appeal to your DH''s LOGIC. Is the stone within its return period. Even if you got a better cut stone (not steep/deep) the same size it would LOOK bigger (more sparkly).

Good luck!!
hehe... this is true. If it''s size you want, then an asscher will not look as big as you want it to because asschers always face up smaller than round brilliants. But if every time you look at the ring, you see the asscher that you didn''t get, then maybe you should sit down and have a talk with your bf. At the end of the day, I''m sure he would want you to wear something you love.

I have one suggestion: post pictures of the ring and ask for honest opinions. It helps to have a team of diamond lovers oohing and aahing over your new ring.
 
Ummm, why did he get to pick your ring out????? I thought it was supposed to be about what you wanted. I''ve never heard of a bf looking for a ring that he likes for his gf, usually, he''s secretly asking her friends to find out what she wants!
 
Date: 9/17/2007 9:41:05 PM
Author: gracie33
Ummm, why did he get to pick your ring out????? I thought it was supposed to be about what you wanted. I''ve never heard of a bf looking for a ring that he likes for his gf, usually, he''s secretly asking her friends to find out what she wants!

This is exactly what I did....but you can only get so much information :)

I would think that it would be better to be completely surprised. If my GF knew I was as close to shopping as I am I would feel like it wasn''t as special as its going to be. I can''t wait to see the look on her face since she has no clue!!!!
 
As others have said, I would ask about the return policy, or if they have a "trade-up" policy.

Personally, I would be ticked that my future husband didn''t defer to my wishes in this matter. I mean, unless he has some pretty important reasons for wanting you to have a RB vs. an Asscher...like he was chased by a giant asscher cut stone when he was a child and he''s haunted by the memories or something along those lines.
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I''d also be ticked that the BF was getting impatient on something as important and personal as this. If there is another diamond search, I suggest you do the looking without him and only keep him updated or tell him when you have it down to two stones that you like - then he can pick from those two.

Bottom line is, you are the one that is supposed to wear the ring forever and it should be what makes you thrilled every time you look at it. If this ring doesn''t do it and you have the ability and finances to change it, then I say go for it. And even if you keep the ring you have, I''d still have a little sitdown with your guy and tell him what you told us. He should know how you feel about the whole experience, and about the ring itself.
 
Not sure if this will make you feel better.. if you had chosen a 1.25ct asscher or cushion it is going to look even smaller than the RB you''ve got as these shapes are cut even deeper..
 
Good Morning Everyone!

Sorry I wasn''t able to respond sooner but my FI came up behind me last night while I was on line and asked what I was doing. I told him about PS and all my e-friends!
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. He asked what kinds of questions and comments I''ve made and I thought hmmmm.....this is a great segue. So, I explained my concerns and well, let me just say that it didn''t go well. He was hurt that I was being so ungrateful and materialistic and said that never in a million years would he have thought I''d be like this. He said that when he looks at the ring it means so much more to him than % and angles; it means that we''re commited to one another. WOW! Talk about a humbling experience. I''m ashamed of myself.
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And truth be told, I''m glad I had the opportunity to help because I did get the pave/halo in the setting. Otherwise it would''ve been completely wrong! He really put things into perspective for me last night. And it does make me feel better about the size of the asscher/cushion.
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Thanks for pointing that out. And I''ll try to post some pictures. I just have to figure out how to take them without being blurry. I''m using the close up option with no flash but I still can''t get the clarity of the pix here.

Thank you everybody so much for your support.....much, much, much appreciated!
 
Dear Bam,
if a 0.1 of a mm is your worst nightmare imagine how us (normal) guys feel when we get all those spam messages
 
I can always count on you to make me laugh.

Thanks!
 
Well, Bams, glad it''s all out in the open for you. Now you can go forward without those thoughts clouding your heart. I think it''s good to have a humbling experience to prepare for marriage which is rife with them. We get so caught up in the idea of the perfect stone (I know I do) and that this being a once-in-a-lifetime thing that we have to get "right" the first time that we lose sight (maybe not all of us :) of what your fiance said: it''s not all about %s and angles, it is what the diamond symbolizes. Yikes. Talk about a reality check, huh?
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Well, I''m glad for you both that it''s out of your head, on the table and now you can move away from it and embrace and love that diamond you''ve got! You do, after all, have a one and one-quarter carat of a round brilliant stone that surely is gorgeous and that''s nothing to sneeze at!

Do you have a macro function on your camera? Look for a flower image or get out your owner''s manual. That''s how we take the close ups with such detail and clarity.

We want pictures, Bams, pictures! We want to celebrate your engagment ring with you.
 
Date: 9/18/2007 8:49:30 AM
Author: bams0103
I can always count on you to make me laugh.

Thanks!
Now I really have a complex complex. Complete strangers are laughing at me
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NO, NO, NO. We''re laughing with you.
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I''ve tried that. You should see some of the positions I''m able to get my body into trying to get the right light and angles!! i will try really, really hard tonight and if it doesn''t work, then you''ll just have to settle for the blurry ones.
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and thank you for the kind words!! ALL OF YOU!
 
Bams,

I dont think the whole "loss of a mm thing" is a big deal at all...I think the bigger problem here is a fiance that did not take your opinion/wants into account at all, and basically picked out what HE liked....I can't believe that! Isnt that more of a cause for alarm? I know its only an e-ring, but the e-ring is just the icing on the cake. This man is going to be your husband, and there are going to be many more things in life that you will go through together, good and bad, and I would think everyone deserves a partner that is supportive and truly values their opinion....Of course, this is just my honest opinion, but I just had to tell you how I felt.... the whole situation just really bothered me.

Best of luck and I hope you grow to enjoy your ring...
 
Hi Dani!!

Yes, I''m a little hurt by that, but in his defense, he did tell me that if an asscher/cushion is what I wanted then that''s what we can do. He (and the jeweler) just thought I would regret it down the road; that they''re just fads. To him, a RB screams engagement more than any other shape. So I was swayed just a bit by others'' opinions.
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Thanks for being so honest with me. Is that your bouquet in your avatar?
 
I think your FI should have folded. It is your ring. I know that most of the decisions I make on the ring I am getting is to satisfy my GF tastes, not mine. While we will not go with something I don''t like, her satisfaction is of sigular importance to me. I want her to be completely satisfied. Hell I want her to be estactically elated! Luckily we don''t have immensly disperate taste and she is not hard to please ( I am not saying you are). Bottom line is you should be happy, you are going to have to live with that ring for a while.
GOOD LUCK!
Mario
 
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