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Can I get some feedback on this Radiant Aset

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  1. terryrayhi
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    by terryrayhi » Jul 2, 2014
    I am new to buying a diamond and I was wondering what some people who know more about diamonds could tell me about this diamond and the Aset in particular

    The diamond specs are
    1.55 Carat Radiant cut
    FL clarity
    Color E
    Florescence None
    Excellent Symmetry
    Excellent Polish
    Table 66%
    Depth 68.7%
    Length to width ratio 1.29

    Thanks in Advance!!

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  3. terryrayhi
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    by terryrayhi » Jul 2, 2014
    Ugggg... Yes there is a big difference... Unfortunately I need to stick to a rectangular diamond as the engagement setting is a cast in type that was previously set up for a rectangular diamond. so is it the cut quality that gives it such a bad ASET?
    I need to stick pretty close to these specifications
    Length 7 - 7.5 mm
    Width 6.2-6.5 mm


    Thanks in advance
     
  4. diamondseeker2006
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    by diamondseeker2006 » Jul 2, 2014
    So you bought a setting that is already made? Can it be returned? It is FAR easier to buy the diamond and have the setting made to fit the diamond. It would be very sad to have to buy a poorly cut diamond just to fit a setting.

    Yes, cut is the most important feature of a diamond and seeing more color in the ASET is important. If you absolutely have to stick with those measurements, your best bet is still to contact GOG because they call in stones, do the light performance checks, and will make you a video to compare stones like these:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckygaF4SYbw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTj4CMSXGOE&index=204&list=UUe_V0Cpb5TXhi2j80WFLuLA

    The first video will help you learn a little more about radiant performance, too.
     
    


    


  5. JulieN
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    by JulieN » Jul 2, 2014
    It is good if you want a crushed ice radiant
     
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  7. terryrayhi
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    by terryrayhi » Jul 2, 2014
    I kind of would like to stay under 14K... I started out at like 8K but I tend to keep upgrading and upgrading what I want to spend... I guess it is forever so I might as well make it a good one!!
     
  8. terryrayhi
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    by terryrayhi » Jul 2, 2014
    I really like a bright "crushed Ice" Diamond! I am waiting for a Ideal scope on this diamond also!
     
  9. terryrayhi
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    by terryrayhi » Jul 3, 2014
    OK here is the "Real" ASET and a Idealscope? Can I get feedback?

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    by tyty333 » Jul 3, 2014
    Still not liking it...too much white (leakage).

    I think crushed iced long radiants are tough to find (without leakage).

    Edit - You might want to work with someone like GOG who has a good eye and can
    focus on your size specs.
     
    


    


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    by Texas Leaguer » Jul 3, 2014
    If you are looking for a bright stone (and who doesn't want that), you can do better. Not only is there alot of leakage, but the light return that you do see in the ideal scope is primarily low angle (green in aset) and not as intense. There also does not appear to be much contrast (blue in ASET) so sparkle may be diminished as well.

    Edit- I'm talking about the images you posted, not about the other diamond that has been suggested.
     
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    by Bailey_Lou » Jul 3, 2014
    So.much.white. I agree with others that you can do better. You should see way more reds too.
     
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    by Rockdiamond » Jul 3, 2014
    Bryan- In my experience, a lot of really lovely radiant cuts show a lot of green on ASET
    In many cases Red ( which can be desirable in other types of cuts) can be not so great on a radiant.
    It totally depends on the type of Radiant Cut.
     
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    by Rockdiamond » Jul 3, 2014
    The stones on the page Bryan linked to are one type of radiant- and in such cases, the aset may be interpreted in a manner similar to a round brilliant.
    But there are other types of radiant cuts where aset needs to be interpreted differently.
    Put simply, light bounces around less in a round brilliant, as compared to what is sometimes referred to as a "Crushed Ice" type of stone- Radiant Cut, in this case.
    There's no debate that the individual flashes coming off the larger facets in a round brilliant are brighter than light which has bounced around inside the diamond a few times off of much smaller facets.
    BUT- that single, provable aspect does not determine beauty.
    Many people prefer smaller, more numerous flashes. Many people do not like the patterning.
    Therefore implying that the "brighter the better" based on reflector technology misses a very important point about taste.
    And specifically, sometimes red in the middle of a radiant cut stone cut to behave more like a round brilliant, will look like a dark hole in the middle of the stone, when viewed real life.
    Red is not always good, green- and even white- is not always bad
     
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    by diamondseeker2006 » Jul 3, 2014
    Regarding budget, you are paying a big premium with E IF. You can easily go to F VS2 in a radiant and still have a very white stone.

    I don't think you answered...is there no way this setting can be returned??? That is really restricting you from finding the best diamond.
     
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    by diamondseeker2006 » Jul 3, 2014
    And maybe that is the bottom line. There are better radiants in terms of cut and light return, but maybe not in the crushed ice category. So if that is what you want and you are restricted to a certain size because of the setting, then you are going to have to make compromises on your diamond. I guess you can order it and see if it meets your expectations.
     
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    by Gypsy » Jul 4, 2014
    It's not though. Crushed ice radiants don't have the high contrast of other types (hearts and arrows) so you don't see red's and blues. But you do see CONSISTENTLY bright all green ASETs. These is a good crushed ice radiant ASET, :
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  20. Lorelei
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    by Lorelei » Jul 4, 2014
    Hi Terry,

    Then you could be on the right track, see if you can get a video from the seller and I also like clear photographs as I find those to be helpful. These aren't my types of radiant but I am not a crushed ice fan and the stone isn't for me, our job is to try to guide you towards what YOU want. Maybe this will be it maybe not, but you will find the right diamond with some patience and you have a sensible approach with images and asking questions.
     
  21. terryrayhi
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    by terryrayhi » Jul 10, 2014
    Thank you everyone on the great feedback.. I decided to go with the diamond I chose even with the ASET with the leakage it is truly a amazing diamond with lots of crushed ice sparkle!

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