Can a cushion that measures 7.44 x 6.63 pass for a 2 Ct?

[iluvdiamonds2]

Regarding "Illusions with Diamonds"

1. Does a cushion look larger, like a 2 carat?

2. Can an F colored stone pass for an E?

3. If it''s a VS1, can it pass for a VVS1?

Thank you fellow diamond-lovers!

 

[rosetta]

Erm.

I find these questions puzzling.

Cushions face up smaller than rounds. Also the length to width ratio will affect how "big" a cushion looks.

No colour grade looks exactly like another, otherwise it would be that colour grade.

VVS and VS stones are almost always eye clean, so what differences are you looking for: under the loupe or to the naked eye?

If you explained what you are looking to achieve with this info, you may get more useful answers.

 

[rosetta]

Ps what is "illusions with diamonds"? Is it a book?

 

[LALove]

Regarding "Illusions with Diamonds"

1. Does a cushion look larger, like a 2 carat?

2. Can an F colored stone pass for an E?

3. If it''s a VS1, can it pass for a VVS1?

Thank you fellow diamond-lovers!

If you search cushions using the "diamonds search" function you can check out the mm measurements of 2 carat cushions- they vary in face up size for the same weight.

Not sure I understand #1- does a cushion look larger than what? Generally they face up smaller than rounds for example for the same carat weight.

Re #2, it totally depends on who is looking at the stone- the more educated may be able to tell the difference- I'm sure many PSers could.

Re #3, if there are no visible inclusions, VS1 may pass for VVS1.

I'm curious why you'd want to pass off a less than 2 carat, F color, VSI cushion as a 2 carat, E color, VVS1 stone when it isn't?

Edit to fix spelling

 

[chrono]

Your questions have thrown me for a loop:
1. Depending on the depth of the cut, some 2 carat cushions will face up larger or smaller than another 2 carat cushion.
2. An F is an F and an E is an E and there is a reason why an F is not an E.
3. Ditto for clarity grading.

To expand on your last 2 questions, I am unsure where you are going with this line of questioning. Grading of colour is based on a master set and done upside down with unset stones. Clarity grading is done under a certain set of criteria as well. To the naked eye, there is probably no difference between a VS1 and VVS1 graded stone.

 

[decodelighted]

Here's a question for YOU ... are you planning on lying to people about the specs of your new stone?

 

[yennyfire]

This post seems to tie into your post on the Hangout board where you're asking how to respond to questions about the size/cost of your ring. You indicate that you want to pass your "F" off as an "E" in that post. What are you trying to accomplish? If we can understand that, we may be able to respond more appropriately to your questions. The majority of the responses on that post recommend being honest...say that you're not comfortable answering those questions or do what I suggested and say that "while I helped DH select the ring, I don't have the details on size/price".....I'd say the same here....why would you want to suggest that a less than 2 carat stone is 2 carats? I'm honestly confused....

 

[chrono]

There is no shame in being honest or if you are uncomfortable with sharing the stats of your ring, then just say so to the person asking the question.

 

[LGK]

Here's a question for YOU ... are you planning on lying to people about the specs of your new stone?

Deco, that would be a yes. https://www.pricescope.com/communit...o-do-you-give-to-people-who-ask-about.154293/

ILD2, I have two questions too. No need to post the answer, but maybe they'll help you clarify your thinking a bit.

1. Why do you feel the need to lie about your diamond?

2. How do you think your fiance would feel if he heard you doing it or if it got back to him?

And, which is more important.

I'm not trying to be snarky here- but it just seems like this is a really... unfortunate route you're contemplating here, with a good number of ways it could backfire, either hurting your fiance or making you look silly.

 

[Dancing Fire]

if i was gonna lie i'll tell them it is a "D IF"...

 

[SB621]

Here's a question for YOU ... are you planning on lying to people about the specs of your new stone?

Deco, that would be a yes. https://www.pricescope.com/communit...o-do-you-give-to-people-who-ask-about.154293/

ILD2, I have two questions too. No need to post the answer, but maybe they'll help you clarify your thinking a bit.

1. Why do you feel the need to lie about your diamond?

2. How do you think your fiance would feel if he heard you doing it or if it got back to him?

And, which is more important.

I'm not trying to be snarky here- but it just seems like this is a really... unfortunate route you're contemplating here, with a good number of ways it could backfire, either hurting your fiance or making you look silly.

+1

 

[Lula]

Here's a question for YOU ... are you planning on lying to people about the specs of your new stone?

Hmm...I was actually wondering if she's already told people she has a 2 carat, VVS1, E color cushion and is now "checking" with the folks on PS to see if anyone she's told will doubt her stats. But either way, what's the point of this deception/planned deception?

 

[AprilBaby]

Odd thread. Why wouldn't you just tell the truth? Not the price of course, but the ct weight and color? Except for my closest friend who shares my diamond obsession, no one has ever asked me anyways...

 

[yssie]

This is a strange RT thread.

Sure, it could look like a 2ct. Cushions are unpredictable. To your friends w/ 2ct RBs it will probably look smaller than a 1.5ct.

But if you're gonna lie why not go the whole hog and say it's a D IF - it's not like anyone else actually cares, and if you're going for maximum drama factor you could always toss out that it cost 80k to spice things up...

 

[Gypsy]

Seriously. What on earth is going on in your head?

Okay. This is your engagement ring. Not a status symbol. It's a symbol of commitment. Hon, you need some time alone. Away from the diamonds. Away from your 'friends' or whatever they are. And just with your FI to remember what this ring represents. Love, commitment, friendship, trust, respect. All that matters is that the two of you love what you get and that you are taking this next step in your relationship together. When someone asks you about your ring it is NOT the same as someone asking you about your car. There is a difference. THAT is why so many PSers is your last thread said that they say they don't know-- that they just love it and their hubby bought it for them. Because people are making them uncomfortable by turning something that is a symbol of love into a symbol of crass commercialism, and they are reminding those rude enough to do that that it's NOT OKAY. But here you are doing the same thing to your OWN ring.

Frankly, your posts are disturbing. First you didn't want to "settle" for an H. And now you want to lie about a lovely stone that is colorless, bigger than the national average, and more than eyeclean.

What's up? Are you ever going to be happy with anything that is in front of you? Or are you going to worry about what others think all your life and never be happy with what you have Cause if you are lying already about this stuff... where does it end? And why does it matter what other's think?

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Sorry, but no. There is a good possibility the stone will pass for only a 1 ct I1 diamond.

 

[slg47]

Seriously. What on earth is going on in your head?

Okay. This is your engagement ring. Not a status symbol. It's a symbol of commitment. Hon, you need some time alone. Away from the diamonds. Away from your 'friends' or whatever they are. And just with your FI to remember what this ring represents. Love, commitment, friendship, trust, respect. All that matters is that the two of you love what you get and that you are taking this next step in your relationship together. When someone asks you about your ring it is NOT the same as someone asking you about your car. There is a difference. THAT is why so many PSers is your last thread said that they say they don't know-- that they just love it and their hubby bought it for them. Because people are making them uncomfortable by turning something that is a symbol of love into a symbol of crass commercialism, and they are reminding those rude enough to do that that it's NOT OKAY. But here you are doing the same thing to your OWN ring.

Frankly, your posts are disturbing. First you didn't want to "settle" for an H. And now you want to lie about a lovely stone that is colorless, bigger than the national average, and more than eyeclean.

What's up? Are you ever going to be happy with anything that is in front of you? Or are you going to worry about what others think all your life and never be happy with what you have Cause if you are lying already about this stuff... where does it end? And why does it matter what other's think?

+1 to all of this.

To answer your questions: a F may look like a D/E to the naked eye once set and there will be no visible difference between VVS1 and VS1. As far as the size, check the measurements. Some stones have greater 'spread' for the carat weight than others.

I have to agree with the other posters though that who cares if you have a 2 carat D IF? If your friends do care...well...

 

[kenny]

After reading all 3 of her current threads (and the dust they stirred up) this does not seem like a sincere poster.

 

[yssie]

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[Italiahaircolor]

Okay, three threads...same topic...so I'm going to let loose here...

We can all see what you're trying to put off here...you're probably working within a budget, looking to get the biggest ring for what you can afford...and then you're going to smudge the truth to make seem even more outrageous. Good grief, girl...aren't you tired, yet? All this scheming, you must need a nap.

Heres the kicker, you must know what you're doing right? You're going to make your fiance, who can't afford a D IF 2ct feel like s*** when you're running around lying, making it seem as if what he did get you isn't good enough because you won't even be honest about it. Sheesh.

It's like Gypsy said, I think a whopping 3 times now, you need a time out. You need to close the windows on your computer and breath. Presumably, this is your engagement ring...and you're treating it like an episode of keeping up with the Joneses. Are you even enjoying yourself? Stop caring so much what your girlfriends are going to assume by the rock on your finger and start thinking about yourself and how you'll feel wearing it...or better yet, how you'll feel lying about wearing it.

And, in parting, heres a nugget of advice for you straight from my Mama...no matter what you get, someone is always gonna have something bigger and nicer, so you're fighting a losing battle.

 

[that_someone_special]

Screw it and say it's a 3 carat D IF that was owned by royalty. Perhaps the stone could also have a special power??

 

[rosetta]

oh i get it now.

you want to brag about your ring, and are wondering what you can get away with.

sad sad sad.

well, it takes all kinds.

 

[iota15]

No it will not... and lying about the carat weight (and maybe even about color) will eventually catch up to you one day - and you will be VERY sorry that you decided to lie at all, especially given that the specs suggest it`s a great sized stone already.

 

[LaurenThePartier]

Your threads have been exhausting to read.

If you're so embarrassed by the specs of the engagement rings you're just considering purchasing, why not wait until you can afford the ring of your dreams? Why not offer to pay for a portion of the ring so you can get what you want instead of trying to figure out a way to fleece other unsuspecting people and lie about the ring that you don't even have yet?

 

[NOYFB]

Your threads have been exhausting to read.

If you're so embarrassed by the specs of the engagement rings you're just considering purchasing, why not wait until you can afford the ring of your dreams? Why not offer to pay for a portion of the ring so you can get what you want instead of trying to figure out a way to fleece other unsuspecting people and lie about the ring that you don't even have yet?

+1

I, like the others, am scratching my head trying to figure out why you would want to lie about the stats of a ring?