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BrillianceScope, HCA, AGA, AGS, GIA... All Bases Covered?

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Nobel

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Ok. I''ve researched a stone to death. It is a round, AGS "000", GIA-certified ideal cut with an HCA score of 0.9, an AGA overall score of "1B" (though most of the stats are 1A), and finally a BrillianceScope rating of H (white light), VH (color light), and VH (scintillation). Without considering money at this point, does this sound like a good stone, one with a lot of brilliance? Inscidentally, it''s G color, VS2. Are there any other measurements or considerations I need to think about?
 
Sounds good! Could you post all the specs?
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Yes please post the specs.




Something you note is that you want a stone with a lot of brilliance. I'm going to split a hair very finely and say...Brilliance in general is more of a 'white light' term. So if you say this stone gets a H on White Light and not VH..then I might say this stone may be a little more fiery than white brilliant. But H VH VH is a great score (usually you don't find alot of stones with VH white light *and* fire...sometimes one or the other), and it sounds like this stone will be a true knockout!! Splitting hairs as I noted.
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This is what we're all looking for:

Measurements:
Total Depth:
Table Diameter:
Crown Angle:
(not percent)
Pavilion Angle:
(not percent)
Girdle thickness:
Culet:
Polish:
Symmetry:

And how about a scan of the plotting diagram?

And for the record just because a lot of people lurk on these threads and we don't want them to inadvertently pick up the wrong vernacular... The diamond would be "GIA Graded" not certified, the labs don't certify anything... And it has "zero ideal cut proportions" but it can't be "AGS-000" unless it is AGS Graded first and foremost for legal reasons and then it would have to have an overall cut rating of zero (0) with D color (0) and Flawless Clarity (0) to be AGS-000 but we KNOW what you're trying to say... Like we said, we just don't want somebody else to pick up on the vernacular as they begin their quest...
 
I think a lab could use AGS grading today. I don't think AGS grading is now reserved solely for AGS Members any more, although it certainly once was. The AGS Lab has allowed the generic use of its grading in the open market and machines like Ogi and Sarin produce little labels which proclaim the "0" cut grade right on them. The genie is sort of out of this bottle.

An AGS 000 is supposed to be the best cut, the finest color and the best clarity, but the trade has turned the "000" into 0 cut grade, excellent polish and excellent symmetry grades. AGS uses zero for the best in those more minor categories and the trade fell in love with a diamond of any color and clarity that could be finely cut having what seems to be a superb grading in the overall. It is a little shady, but an AGS 000 stone is going to be a nicely cut stone. If it isn't D-IF, that doesn't make most folks upset.

The true problem is not the use of the AGS grading terminology or saying report instead of certificate. It is the MISUSE of grading, the cheating, and the lack of truthfulness. Now, this is not all that commonplace among the good vendors here, but you can sure get cheated buying a diamond from what might seem a legitimate seller. Beware of sellers that do not have a good reputation and a presence you can check out BEFORE you buy. There are lots of ways to learn expensive lessons. You can avoid nearly every pitfall by being careful and thoughtful instead of an impulsive buyer.

Don't be afraid of buying. Be afraid of making a decision before you have the real facts. This applies to every large purchase, not just jewelry. When you buy a house, a boat, a car, furniture, electronics. You all know the routine. Think BEFORE you make the deal. Don't buy and then regret it later because you acted impulsively.
 
Awsome .....well said both!!!!!!!!


How many times have I seen people start a thread with "Help need it fast-emergency"

A good consumer fights that impulse to spend-spend and looks at the purchase rationally.

In most cases the diamond does not have to be in the hand tomorrow anyway.


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On 10/30/2003 5:19:26 PM oldminer wrote:




Don't be afraid of buying. Be afraid of making a decision before you have the real facts. This applies to every large purchase, not just jewelry. When you buy a house, a boat, a car, furniture, electronics. You all know the routine. Think BEFORE you make the deal. Don't buy and then regret it later because you acted impulsively.
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I think this deserves a rousing AAAA-MEN! This is perhaps the most sage advice anyone can glean from this site, and it should be repeated often and loudly.
 
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