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Okay, I know that I am a MOB instead of the Bride, which probably means you all will see me as the plague (but trust me, I don''t even have a date for my daughter''s wedding, so no worrying about adding 12, much less two, to the guest list
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) But there isn''t a MOB message board anywhere, and I need sassy, smart, sexy and witty woman to get tme hrough this. I only found that on this board.
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Please don''t kick me off.

Because my darling daughter changes her mind daily and we went from Maui wedding (Thank gawd, because Aloha just totally screwed her best friend who is getting married in Maui in 3 weeks with 80 people flying in on ...guess who...Aloha Airlines, by going bellyup today, but that is worthy of a thread in itself), to a local wedding in sunny San Diego, we went bridesmaid dress shopping yesterday. My daughter wants to give me a grandchild while I can still be a GILF and not a geriatric grandma.
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We didn''t have enough time to order the regular route and wait 4 months because she wants to get this over with, hence July 2008. MOH and two bridesmaids. Problem is the two bridesmaid''s have Tata''s that go from here to Japan. So, we realize that we have to buy "off the rack", in order to accomodate the "Racks". After the local bridesmaid tried on a gazillion dresses yesterday, we were all getting cranky until we got to Macy''s and found one that appeared to work...and the perfect color even!! Yayayayayaya, Bride starts crying with joy and I am an overjoyed with her satisfaction and MOG whispers..."Did they see the pricetag?"" $430 a piece
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Holy crap Batman!! I say "whatever"! (I''m a sucker for said Bride, only child, single Mom...you get the picture)

We go online to see if we can find said Nicole Miller dress for cheaper...but nooooooooo, we can''t even find the dress in same online at all. Even at Nicole Miller site, they don''t show this color. Fast forward to the manic phone call I make to make Macy''s to get them to hold the one dress and we start planning, but as luck would have it, the clerk finds all three sizes we need and I want to shower her with gifts. She puts them on hold and we start the coupon hunt. Turns out that we can get 20% off with a Macy''s card. Ummmm, anyone got a Macy''s card? Yep, turns out said bridesmaid has one, so we go after work to pick up the dresses. This is where is gets fun. I decide against applying for a Macy''s card just to get an additional $150 savings and we tell her to ring it up. Transaction Declined
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They say we can go to customer service phone and call the company. Do I want to have them hold the dresses? (insert extremely patient MOB holding back from jumping the counter and tackling said cashier). Actually it was more like..."Do you feel lucky?"

So, we go to the customer service line and with the epitome of innocence we ask why the transaction didn''t go through. After a bit of schmoozing, we get a "one time customer service increase in the limit" to purchase the dresses. Phew!! We go back to new customer service clerk who rings us up. Yayayyayyaya, done deal. Let''s call the Bride and tell her everything''s cool. Bridesmaid takes the receipt and walks out one end of the store and I take the dresses and walk out the other end of the store...when I hear the alarms sounding
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Of course they forgot to remove a sensor...of course they did. Thank gawd we find out now. I walk over to the fragrance counter and the women finds the sensor, takes it off, and asks me for the receipt.
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Ummmmm, yeah, that would be with the girl who just left out the other side of the store who isn''t answering her cell phone. After a bit of nervousness and laughing, they let me out. Now I can call Bride and tell her that it''s all cool. Bride says, "Mom, please try on the 4 to make sure that it will fit MOH" I promise to do so as soon as I get home.

So, then I try on the dress and note how I think it will fit MOH...but I''m stuck in the dress. Seriously stuck in the dress. The zipper won''t budge. Five lonely minutes later, I call Bride with good news and bad news. Good news, I think it will fit fine. Bad news, I am stuck in the freaking dress. She laughs her cute tush off (I made that tush). So, I meekly go to neighbors house to see if I can''t get an assist, but neighbor is in backyard with kids and can''t hear me yelling over the fence and then I spy a couple on an evening walk and since I have no shame, I go running across my neighbors lawn and yell across the street "Excuse me, I know this is crazy, but can you help me, I am stuck in this dress!" The couple struts across the street and I explain my predicament and then the girl is has a hard time getting the zipper to cooperate. The male spys the pricetag and says "Dayum, for "$430, you should just live in it!" We girls laugh. Finally the zipper cooperates, I give a big "OMG, THANK YOU!" to the couple and as they walk away, the girl says "I live up on Berkley street if you get stuck again" and her man says "This is the best walk I''ve ever been on". I am pouring a glass of wine.
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Miraclesrule, you crack me up. I''m glad you have a sense of humor about the saga, and glad that the dresses worked out in the end! And I''m not having any MOB issues yet, so IMO you''re more than welcome here...in fact, if/when the issues start (hopefully not) I might need you and the wise isaku around to keep me sane and on track!
 
Oh my goodness thank you soooo much for the laugh. I''m so glad you were able to get out of the dress.
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You''re hilarious! Of course we would not kick you off, we''re nice here so welcome!!
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My Mom actually reads PS so it''s funny because she''ll be like "Hey I read your thread on so and so and I totally agree with x about that." Haha. It''s fun. Anyway, thanks for sharing the bridesmaid ordeal, and enjoy that glass of wine! We look forward to hearing more about your daughter''s wedding. :)
 
Oh my goodness that''s hilarious!
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lol! You sure know how to tell a story!!
 
Ha I was eating lunch as I read this. You nearly killed me! Welcome to PS and thanks for the much needed laugh!
 
That literally had me laughing out loud at work! I love the imagery--and I think that wine was sorely needed!
 
ROFLMAO!!!!

OMG. You had me in stitches.

We will NOT kick you off. Sane MOB or MOG are welcome here, and in fact provide some great perspective for us absorbed brides... or those of us (like me) with absorbed moms.
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This is why I love this board. You ladies get it!! Weddings are stressful as ...um, new acronym...SAS!!

Now that the Bridesmaid Dress Saga is over, we will simply transition to the Flower Saga. Which by the way started today. What I don''t comprehend is how you can give a vendor your budget and you spend all this time with them and they finally give you a quote nearly twice the budget. Who does this? When I had a kneejerk reaction about the vendor my daughter was like "Don''t have a cow at me!!"

And I was like...huh? I am not having a cow at you, I just want to sock the vendor and make her have to wear dark shades to cover the "eggplant calla lily" color surrounding her left eye.
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Okay, maybe I need to go practice Non-Violent Communication tecniques this week.
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Dangit, I hate my typos.....

ETA<----- just learned.

That would be "techniques" with an "h".
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ETA: Sock the vendor, not the darling bride...
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Hee hee hee. BF keeps looking at me funny while I''m sitting here chuckling...
 
I loved the brides maid dress story. I nearly fell off the bed. Then the closet bride remark and now egg plant cala lily bruises. You crack me up.
 
Miracles, if you need help with flowers, give me a holler.

Where are you guys located in San Diego?
 
Gypsy can you hear me...I am giving the biggest shout out on the planet right now!!! Well, actually watching American Idol. I am an American Idol junkie.

Yes, San Diego...Me, La Mesa. Bride, Pacific Beach. And since I am not a computer nerd like all the rest of you, how do I private message you?
 
You can''t PM on PS dear.

Is your bride OPEN to alternate florist suggestions, and can you tell me what she wanted, and what she was qouted.
 
Oh yeah, she''s open. We had a budget of $3500 and the vendor quoted over $5600
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I think I totally passed out about half way through the quote so it''s a bit blurry, but I do recall looking at the total and after that, all I can remember is dialing my darling bride through the steam emitting from my body.
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Okay. You have a great budget.

Now, tell me, in as much detail as you can... what you want for the money.

What types of flowers (eggplant lillies are really expensive) and how many of what arrangements, bouquets, boutineers, corasages, ceremony pieces... etc. What are you asking for.... I''ll tell you if it''s reasonable, and if not... what alternatives would make it reasonable without compromising on feel, color, etc.

I''m pretty good at this.
 
Date: 4/1/2008 11:55:05 PM
Author: Gypsy
Okay. You have a great budget.


Now, tell me, in as much detail as you can... what you want for the money.


What types of flowers (eggplant lillies are really expensive) and how many of what arrangements, bouquets, boutineers, corasages, ceremony pieces... etc. What are you asking for.... I''ll tell you if it''s reasonable, and if not... what alternatives would make it reasonable without compromising on feel, color, etc.


I''m pretty good at this.

She definitely is!!
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Okay, I will give this a try, but I have no idea if this is even what we need, because too much ivory or white against her dress will wash it out...

I don''t even know what any of this means, but here it goes...the bouquet...

"Warm ivory Vendela roses and pale champagne Sahara roses are the perfect neutral palette for the hues of lavender and purple interspersed throughout using royal purple lisianthus, freesia and the eggplant hues of the calla lilies. Viburnum berries and “eggplant” hued fiddle head (fern shoots) are nestled amongst blooming freesia and Star of Bethlehem. A fringe of Kiwi vine “sprawls” amongst the whimsical trailing of Hellebore; creating an effect that is composed and elegant at top, becoming looser and more “wild” at the bottom. A custom lace fabric warp and satin ribbon detailing completes the look."

wt???

And this...What is a Nosegay?????
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European hand-tied bouquets showcase vivid hues in a sophisticated
style. Using ivory vendela roses as the primary focal flower amongst both vibrant orange Marianna and deep auburn Leonidas roses with touches of royal purple lisianthus creates a stunning color palette against the backdrop of the Bridesmaids’ dresses. Additionally Vivid orange mokara orchids amongst “chocolate” fern shoots hint at touches of deep purple and are the perfect complement to the saturated purple hues of the ruffled lisianthus. Further enhancements such as French knot ribbon detailing and color harmonizing botanical elements collar the bouquet and complete the look.

Huh???

The focal point of the well is the strand upon strand of ivory dendrobium orchids interspersed with several orange mokara orchids placed intermittently upon the strands. The strands are suspended at various lengths creating visual interest and finished with your choice of purple or clear crystal gems. Three hanging “old world” iron lanterns are placed amongst the strands for additional drama and visual interest. Finishing touches are placed upon the well covering as strands of orchids and foliage garland trails over the fronts of the well. Within each garland are the further enhancement and duplication of colors such as orange, auburn, champagne and purple using roses, orchids and lisianthus.

She''s getting married at "The Prado" in Balboa Park. Ceremony and reception. The last description was for the "Wishing Well" at the ceremony site.

We are open to all suggestions. Perhaps I should post a pic of the dress, the hair, the bridesmaid dresses, which of course can''t be found anywhere online so the color is hard to describe (but it looks like stright up gold to me), and the picture of them in black does them no justice whatsoever...

We need to simplify...

I think the final inspiration for the florist came when I forwarded my daughter the picture of the ceiling of Wynn parasols that I found on this board once she told me she was thinking "purple". I didn''t particularly care for the bright purple I was seeing and wanted to add richness to the color scheme...any color scheme.

Thank gawd for David Archuleta. Oops, I digress....

Dining Table Centerpieces Low {9}
An artful presentation of vivid orange, auburn and purple amongst a foundation of warm creamy ivory. Focal flowers consist of ivory hydrangea, ivory Vendela roses, orange Marianne roses, and auburn Leonidas roses with purple lisianthus and lavender-purple dahlias nestled amongst the round sphere set atop a gold (old world style) urn. Each centerpiece has an abundance flowers in varying stages that are blooming amongst hydrangea as a base with focal points of clustered sweetheart roses and dahlias creating an opulence deserving of this classy centerpiece. The intention is to create a stunning palette that is enhanced by the variety of textures and abundance of flowers

Dining Table Centerpieces High (6)
An ornate wrought iron candelabrum is overflowing in roses, lisianthus, dahlias and hydrangea. Ivory hydrangea and Vendela roses are the foundation for vivid orange Marianna roses and dahlias, auburn Leonidas and pale champagne Sahara roses, while touches royal purple lisianthus dahlias and freesia mingle amongst this dramatic display of flowers. Each candelabrum holds eight (8) gold beaded votives; each piece is finished cut crystal in your choice of clear or purple pendants.

Okay, lets'' see,

We really only need 2 Mom''s, 2 Grandma''s
3 Groomsmens
2 Father''s (grooms''s)
2 Grandfather''s
1 Ring Bearer
1 Groom (Thank gawd)
3 Bridemaids
1 Bride ( Thankd Gawd, again, and again, and again...)
Bride toss
12-14 centerpieces ( I don''t know where they came up with 15, but maybe they add like your Mom)
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Oh yeah, we added a (choke again) "flower" girl. Just to make sure ring bearer doesn''t tackle the guests and/or run and tackle his Mom, who is a BM and FSIL.

I personally am not a fan of the high/low centerpiece look. I have symmetry issues.
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We need candleabras.

Mind you, this (choke, choke) quote, doesn''t take into consideration the cocktail tables at cocktail hour, or the bar. The cake flowers were a gimme, as was the toss bouquet.

Wave that magic wand Gypsy....
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ETA: Did I mention that I can''t stand hydrangea''s??
 
Date: 4/2/2008 12:35:58 AM
Author: miraclesrule


Okay, I will give this a try, but I have no idea if this is even what we need, because too much ivory or white against her dress will wash it out...

I don't even know what any of this means, but here it goes...the bouquet...

'Warm ivory Vendela roses and pale champagne Sahara roses are the perfect neutral palette for the hues of lavender and purple interspersed throughout using royal purple lisianthus, freesia and the eggplant hues of the calla lilies. Viburnum berries and “eggplant” hued fiddle head (fern shoots) are nestled amongst blooming freesia and Star of Bethlehem. A fringe of Kiwi vine “sprawls” amongst the whimsical trailing of Hellebore; creating an effect that is composed and elegant at top, becoming looser and more “wild” at the bottom. A custom lace fabric warp and satin ribbon detailing completes the look.'

wt??? White and ivory roses with mostly inexpensive (expensive callas though) dark to light purple accents. I'd expect to pay up to 175 for this. But more likely around 150 for this. Not a lot of expensive flowers. The roses are NICE ones, but still roses. The only real expense is the callas. And there will only be like 6 in the bouquet.

And this...What is a Nosegay?????
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European hand-tied bouquets showcase vivid hues in a sophisticated
style. Using ivory vendela roses as the primary focal flower amongst both vibrant orange Marianna and deep auburn Leonidas roses with touches of royal purple lisianthus creates a stunning color palette against the backdrop of the Bridesmaids’ dresses. Additionally Vivid orange mokara orchids amongst “chocolate” fern shoots hint at touches of deep purple and are the perfect complement to the saturated purple hues of the ruffled lisianthus. Further enhancements such as French knot ribbon detailing and color harmonizing botanical elements collar the bouquet and complete the look.



Huh??? Nosegay is just a small hand held bouquet. The mokara's are driving up the prices on these. I'd nix them completely from the BM bouquets. Tell them to make these SMALL-- TINY less flowers equals less money. I would pay 60 a piece for these, no more. Tell them to use Orange Ornithogalum for additional orange accent. Lasts well out of water, looks lovely, is inexpensive. And she'll have the white version (star of bethlehem) in her bouquet so it's a good tie in.

The focal point of the well is the strand upon strand of ivory dendrobium orchids interspersed with several orange mokara orchids placed intermittently upon the strands. The strands are suspended at various lengths creating visual interest and finished with your choice of purple or clear crystal gems. Three hanging “old world” iron lanterns are placed amongst the strands for additional drama and visual interest. Finishing touches are placed upon the well covering as strands of orchids and foliage garland trails over the fronts of the well. Within each garland are the further enhancement and duplication of colors such as orange, auburn, champagne and purple using roses, orchids and lisianthus.

I would again, nix the mokaras. I'd add orange accents in with orange roses or something else. I can't price this as I have NO IDEA what size or how intensive this will be. But the price will be driven up by the fact that it has to be decorated on SITE which always drives costs up. I'd nix the orchids entirely though. And I would find out what they are charging for the lantern rentals. It might be cheaper to just buy some of your own. Orange spray roses are lovely as well. And inexpensive, relatively.

She's getting married at 'The Prado' in Balboa Park. Ceremony and reception. The last description was for the 'Wishing Well' at the ceremony site.

We are open to all suggestions. Perhaps I should post a pic of the dress, the hair, the bridesmaid dresses, which of course can't be found anywhere online so the color is hard to describe (but it looks like stright up gold to me), and the picture of them in black does them no justice whatsoever...

We need to simplify...

I think the final inspiration for the florist came when I forwarded my daughter the picture of the ceiling of Wynn parasols that I found on this board once she told me she was thinking 'purple'. I didn't particularly care for the bright purple I was seeing and wanted to add richness to the color scheme...any color scheme.

Thank gawd for David Archuleta. Oops, I digress....

Dining Table Centerpieces Low {9} I know you don't like them, but hydrangeas are cost effective as they are LARGE and take up a lot of space. The price of these could run anywhere from 70-170 depending on how large the contrainers are. On AVERAGE I'd say around one hundred each though. There aren't ANY really expensive flowers in here. Just a lot of them.
An artful presentation of vivid orange, auburn and purple amongst a foundation of warm creamy ivory. Focal flowers consist of ivory hydrangea, ivory Vendela roses, orange Marianne roses, and auburn Leonidas roses with purple lisianthus and lavender-purple dahlias nestled amongst the round sphere set atop a gold (old world style) urn. Each centerpiece has an abundance flowers in varying stages that are blooming amongst hydrangea as a base with focal points of clustered sweetheart roses and dahlias creating an opulence deserving of this classy centerpiece. The intention is to create a stunning palette that is enhanced by the variety of textures and abundance of flowers

Dining Table Centerpieces High (6) NIX THE PENDANTS, and the votive beaded things they are going to charge you an arm and SIX legs for them. ASK them to break down the cost for the rental of the candelabrum. They shouldn't be charging you more than 30 each and that's for really NICE large ones, IMO. They dont' sound TOO flower heavy-- so it's mostly the rental that's pricey here. So I would only price these at 150 MAX each. I really would. they can assemble in advance. If you keep the pendants and do dads, 200 each. But anything more and they are ripping you off.
An ornate wrought iron candelabrum is overflowing in roses, lisianthus, dahlias and hydrangea. Ivory hydrangea and Vendela roses are the foundation for vivid orange Marianna roses and dahlias, auburn Leonidas and pale champagne Sahara roses, while touches royal purple lisianthus dahlias and freesia mingle amongst this dramatic display of flowers. Each candelabrum holds eight (8) gold beaded votives; each piece is finished cut crystal in your choice of clear or purple pendants.

Okay, lets' see,

We really only need 2 Mom's, 2 Grandma's -- 30 each
3 Groomsmens - 15 each
2 Father's (grooms's) - 15 each
2 Grandfather's 15 each
1 Ring Bearer 15 each
1 Groom (Thank gawd) 20-25
3 Bridemaids (priced above)
1 Bride ( Thankd Gawd, again, and again, and again...)
Bride toss SHOULD be free, many florists just through this in. I wouldn't pay more than 50 for it.
12-14 centerpieces ( I don't know where they came up with 15, but maybe they add like your Mom)
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Oh yeah, we added a (choke again) 'flower' girl. Just to make sure ring bearer doesn't tackle the guests and/or run and tackle his Mom, who is a BM and FSIL.

I personally am not a fan of the high/low centerpiece look. I have symmetry issues.
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We need candleabras.

Mind you, this (choke, choke) quote, doesn't take into consideration the cocktail tables at cocktail hour, or the bar. The cake flowers were a gimme, as was the toss bouquet.

Wave that magic wand Gypsy....
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Okay so cocktail tables-- talk her into candles. Or do simple 3-4 roses in a little glass square vase-- 20 each. The bar. FORGETABLE OUT, every surface does NOT need flowers.

If you are having a sweetheart table add about 130 to decorate it, unless she is happy with just a vase with some water to rest her bouquet in, some candles and some flower petals. Then I'dd say around 50 bucks.

Flower girl. Petals, IMO should just be free. If you are having a headpeice or something for her... about 60 MAX.

That's what I'd pay.

Plus delivery and set up. If you NIX the wishing well, I wouldn't go above 200 for that. If you keep the wishing well... set up might go up.
 
:::::bowing at the feet of Gypsy the Goddess:::::

I am awestruck...speechless...which my daughter would probably say is worth the price in itself.
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She is a goddess of flowers (among other things) isn''t she?
 
I''d go up to 10 percent over what I said above.


I WOULD NOT go to a florist with a storefront. THEY COST MUCH MORE. Post on theknot.com local boards for recommendations for GREAT florists who work on bridal ONLY in your are--- interview at LEAST THREE of them make sure you are asking for the EXACT same thing everytime, so that you can compare apples to apples. The candelabra are something they may not OWN, but can rent, and here in San Fran, I''d get those for 30 at a rental place. So if they have to rent them for you... go up to 50 a piece since they will be picking them up and so forth.

After you pick a florist, you can add things like the cocktail stuff and anything else. But I''d stick to basics for initial qoute, stuff you HAVE to have.
 
Date: 4/2/2008 1:28:42 AM
Author: FrekeChild
She is a goddess of flowers (among other things) isn''t she?

Says the cake and cupcake and BUTTERCREAM goddess.

We are blessed with a lot of snarky, talented, obsessive women on this board. LOL.
 
Date: 4/2/2008 1:22:11 AM
Author: miraclesrule
:::::bowing at the feet of Gypsy the Goddess:::::

I am awestruck...speechless...which my daughter would probably say is worth the price in itself.
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No bowing necessary. It''s fun for me. Believe it or not.
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Best of luck.

Just so you know, for my initial qoute I got a range from about 1000 to 5000 for the EXACT (and I mean I had specified down to the number os STEMS) same thing. It''s subjective and depends on the florists experience, comfort level, investment, and flexibility.
 
My daughter''s response:

Yep. She is a flower MASTER. Tell her thank you !!

A simple "Thank You" just doesn''t suffice. I want to tackle you and shower you with Tiffany and Godiva
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Date: 4/2/2008 1:51:36 AM
Author: miraclesrule
My daughter''s response:

Yep. She is a flower MASTER. Tell her thank you !!

A simple ''Thank You'' just doesn''t suffice. I want to tackle you and shower you with Tiffany and Godiva
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Just stick around for a while. I like you. You seem like a ''good egg.''
 
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