Any suggestion for round 1 carat, $4500 budget

[babudia]

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion for <1 carat, VS1,VS2, SI1, SI2(eye clean), H, I, J(w/ fluorescence), K(w/ fluorescence). Budget of $4500 or less...

Thank you in advance,
Russell

 

[kenny]

There won't be a large selection of well cut diamonds with those specs and price, but I found this one.
1.05 ct K SI2, that gets a great HCA score of 1.4. https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/K-SI2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1392886.asp



Ask James Allen how much of a concern the feathers are and whether it is eye clean.
Also, ask for an Idealscope pic. https://www.pricescope.com/tools/ideal-scope
Post it here for feedback or compare it to this reference chart.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Unfortunately, with diamond prices the way they are, you are really looking at less than a carat with that budget. I just wouldn't consider K color for an e-ring. J at the lowest and SI1 unless you are very lucky and find a good SI2.

Looks like it'll take $5150+ to get into a 1 ct. J SI1 excellent cut. You'd need to ask for the idealscope images for James Allen stones and ask if the stone is eyeclean from the top and sides.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1438639.asp

 

[kenny]

Here's a 1.000 ct J SI2, that scored 1.6 on HCA.

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.000-j-si2-round-diamond-gia-32615720

 

[diamondseeker2006]

A .90 I SI1 right at your budget limit. Ask for idealscope image and full copy of GIA report.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1440744.asp

 

[kenny]

Here's a 1.00 ct J SI1 that is $200 over budget but it's a virtual stone so Whiteflash does not have the GIA report.
You'd have to ask for more info so see if it's worth pursuing.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2727216.htm

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Here's a 1.000 ct J SI2, that scored 1.6 on HCA.

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.000-j-si2-round-diamond-gia-32615720

No images of that stone, though, so they'd have to call it in probably to even know if it was eyeclean.

Same with the WF stone. Searching through the virtual stones is going to be tough, Kenny.

 

[Mayk]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/oec-91-e-si1-6-28mm-egl-usa-cert-halo-setting-4200-t169274.html']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/oec-91-e-si1-6-28mm-egl-usa-cert-halo-setting-4200-t169274.html[/URL]

This is a beautiful ring and setting...and a great price. Just reduced....

 

[Mrs.W 514]

Check out http://jewelsbyericagrace.com/ They have beautiful stones for great prices

 

[Gypsy]

https://www.pricescope.com/forum/preloved-ps-jewels/oec-91-e-si1-6-28mm-egl-usa-cert-halo-setting-4200-t169274.html

This is a beautiful ring and setting...and a great price. Just reduced....

Totally think you should go for this.

 

[babudia]

What does everyone think of this stone? Will the strong fluorescence make the diamond seem whiter?

http://www.jamesallen.com/GIA-Diamond-Certificate/1421864/K-VS2-Good-Cut-1.01-Carat-Round-Diamond.JPG

Thank you

 

[kenny]

What does everyone think of this stone? Will the strong fluorescence make the diamond seem whiter?

http://www.jamesallen.com/GIA-Diamond-Certificate/1421864/K-VS2-Good-Cut-1.01-Carat-Round-Diamond.JPG

Thank you

Fluorescence only happens in the presence of ultraviolet light, or light that has some UV content.
Sunlight has UV in it, but many indoor lights don't so the blue fluorescence can not help the diamond look less yellow, brown or grey.

I would not buy that diamond; It's too deep.
Some light will leak out the side and bottom instead of returning back out the top to your eyes.
It might look pretty if you don't know any better, at least until you put it next to one that is well cut.

If you want a well-cut round use the HCA first to weed out bad ones like this one.
It's easy.
Just go to this link: https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca
Enter these four numbers that you get from the plot on the GIA report.
1. Depth %
2. Table %
3. Crown Angle in degrees
4. Pavilion Angle in degrees
Click GO

Reject diamonds that score over 2.0.
Get Idealscope pics on those that score under 2.0.

You are lucky you are shopping for a round.
The HCA only works for rounds, and there is no equivalent tool for other cuts.

 

[kenny]

Notice the darkness under the table on the Deep diamonds of the lower half of the Idealscope Reference Chart.



Now notice the similar darkness under the table of the diamond you posted, which is now on hold:



If you place this poorly-cut 1-ct diamond next to a well-cut 0.90 ct the smaller one will look brighter and may actually seem larger.
Also deep diamonds have a smaller diameter so they face up smaller.
All these disadvantages, just to say you have a 1-ct.

 

[babudia]

Thanks Kenny,
I thought i did input through HCA. But I guess I did not. I will really consider the one that you suggested. Would you recommend going smaller, better color and clarity?

Thank you
Russell

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I would not go under J color. You can see some tint in a J stone, but it will look good face up if it is well cut. I prefer higher clarity and I think Kenny does too, but you will have no choice but to look at SI1-SI2 if you want to go to a carat at $4500. I'd personally rather have the I color .90 than a lower cut/color/clarity 1 ct.

 

[babudia]

What about this one? I am hoping the strong fluorescence will make the stone whiter than it is. Ran it through HCA and it got a 1.1-Excellent rating...

http://www.bluenile.com/round-diamond-1-carat-or-less-very-good-cut-j-color-si1-clarity_LD02369380

 

[bigdiamondtinygal]

I'm not sure if you're open to antique rounds at all, but you may be able to find a better selection of the size you like if you are open to those.

Here's one for Old World Diamonds (many psers shop there): http://www.oldworlddiamonds.com/detail.php?ID=915&SHAPE=EU