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Any opinions on this 2.21 carat cushion cut?

tyty333

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wallstreeter|1482585288|4109349 said:
I know it's sold but wanted to see if I'm on the right track with finding a good diamond. This would be one of my picks if it was available. Is the length and width ok or is it a little small? What about the depth?

https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/l...t/2.21-carat-g-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-2070417

You're on the right track...

It is a little mushy under the table outside of the X. Try to look for more well defined facets under the table (outside the X).

Here is a stone that I recommended yesterday (rectangular) that has lovely faceting under the table...well defined facets and
doing the "mirroring thing" quite nicely.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/1.06-carat-f-color-vvs1-clarity-sku-1135990

Here are some that I think have a little better defined facets then the one you posted...facets outside of X are not as blurry. Ignore
any inclusions...just look at faceting. So its a pretty fine line but you're on the right track...
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/2.01-carat-f-color-si1-clarity-sku-2012851
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/2.02-carat-d-color-si1-clarity-sku-2337425
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/2.01-carat-f-color-si1-clarity-sku-1965823

You can request up to 3 asets for stones local to the NY city area from James Allen. Asets will help you tell how well the stone is
returning light or how much "mush" there is.


You can also check out Enchanted Diamonds. They have Heirloom X-Factor stones...a lot of them have aset images so you can check
out the light return. You want to see a lot of red and green. Some black/blue is ok for contrast. Try to reduce the amount of
gray "mushy" area that you see.
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/search?carat_min=1.98&heirloom=true&make=x-factor&shape=Cushion&wire_price_max=21200

Here is one for example. Check out the aset image.
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/C207-14860Z672??

Let us know if you need any help! You do know that there are other types of cushion cuts. You can read this thread if you want
more info on different types of cushion cuts or to see if there is a different faceting pattern that you might like.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-101-my-experience-in-making-a-harry-winston-halo.183473/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-101-my-experience-in-making-a-harry-winston-halo.183473/[/URL]
 

wallstreeter

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tyty333

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In that group these 3 would be the ones you would want to look at...I've listed them in the order I like them...

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/2.41-carat-g-color-vvs1-clarity-sku-2338483 I like the symmetry on this
one but part of the girdle is very thin so you would need to ask about that and find out how much of the girdle is thin and whether
it is an issue or not.

These 2 are about identical and would make a great pair of earrings. I like the 2.4 ever so slightly better but really an Aset would
help to tell which one is better between these two.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/2.40-carat-g-color-vs1-clarity-sku-2250575

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/2.41-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-sku-2219117
 

ac117

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Very strong ASET! This stone is definitely a winner. As for the clarity, the only inclusion listed is a feather is plotted on the right side face up which is a non issue in a VS1 stone. Clouds are not listed as an inclusion nor is it noted in the comments so nothing to worry about there. It's really a beautiful choice!
 

tyty333

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Yes, that is a nice aset...lots of red, green and minimal leakage.
 

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Now I am more into cushions because of tyty. I enjoy reading her advice.

I sort of get 'mushy' facets. It is amazing how some of you can detect even the smallest difference in the crispness of facets around the edges of the table. "Mushy" facets are obvious when you see a stone with H color or below, because the tint really shows. It is a bit hard for G or above, because it's all white.
 

tyty333

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wallstreeter|1483249312|4111256 said:
tyty333, so I was thinking about that 2.40 that you recommended and it was gone a few days later. The other 2.41 has also been sold. I came across this one. It's bigger and a little more, but I wasn't sure. Any opinions?

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/2.51-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-sku-2211568

Can you see if they can get you an aset? (well only if you are serious...you only get 3 so dont waste on if you're just wanting
a quick opinion).

I think it is going to have a little more "mush" around the edge of the table but may have more smaller sparkles than the other
stones you were looking at...the aset would tell how much mush. The facets at the edge of the table do light up as the stone
rotates...that's a good sign but that probably wont show up on the aset.

Nice stones that we recommend here on Pricescope do get stolen/swipped (as you've seen). So, if you are interested in a
stone it would be wise to put it on hold right away.
 

wallstreeter

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tyty, yes, I'm going to request an ASET image for it. The center looked a little mushy to me but then again I'm not an expert and just going off what I see. I am very serious about finding a diamond, but it's my first engagement ring I'm buying so I want it to be perfect and make sure I find the right one. One that "feels" like it's the one. Thanks for your help in the process, it's very much appreciated and has been enormously helpful.
 

tyty333

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:wavey: Your welcome Wallstreet...

The "mushy" area in this stone when looking straight on is between the green and orange lines (under the table).
However (look at second image) you can see that the facets in the mushy area seem to come into focus as the stone turns
and depending on what way it is turning the other facets go out of focus.

Most people wont recommend a stone unless all the facets are in focus straight on...or very minimal area between the
green and orange line. You have every right to be picky and it is difficult when you dont know what to look for in a stone.

You might also look through this tread and see/make sure what kind of cushion faceting pattern appeals to you.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-cuts-a-collection.135031/page-9']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-cuts-a-collection.135031/page-9[/URL]




And to give you an idea of the size of this stone on a size 6 finger with a 2mm shank...

cushion_251_1.png

cushion_251_turned_view_1.png

cushion_251_size.png
 

dollyanjuli

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make sure you are looking at size specs, and not just carat weight...

this may have slipped through your search because its an H, not a G- but i just love these facets! And it is the size of some of the 2.4/ 2.5 stones that you were looking at

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/2.19-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-sku-2350819

Selecting a good cushion can be a bit daunting but it looks like you are picking up on all the right nuances, and you have the right people helping you pick =)

A few more questions:
do you know what kind of setting you want?
Did you S.O ask for a cushion, or do you know for sure its something she likes?
Does she have a pinterest you can snoop on, and perhaps post some photos here?
Do you prefer more square or are you open to rectangular?
And more important...whats your total budget?

All of these will help the good folks here provide you with the best options!
 

dollyanjuli

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hi!

So the 2.19 I posted is 8.06 x 7.5, with a length to width ration of 1.09- very slightly elongated. To give you an idea of size that 2.4 that you really liked was 7.97 x 7.54. So size wise, this may actually look just a tiny bit bigger and a smidge more elongated. This is just an example of how important it is to look at the size specs and not carat weight. That 2.19 is a broader faceted 4 main brilliant which may or not be appealing to you, but just wanted to throw it into the mix.

I saw another stone that may be worth checking out- again, carat wise it is not as high as you want but it still has a good face up size, high color and a very unique facet pattern. if you like it, may be worth asking about. 7.7 x 7.3 is the size.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/2.04-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-sku-2306293

Did you go read that thread that TyTy reccomended earlier? There are so many different "flavors" of cushions, even within modern styles. Have you used up all three of your JA ASETS?
 
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